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I will be ing pissed if anyone on this team play with any NT this summer.
this is , him and manu made a HORRIBLE choice.. for a sportsman, playing for their country is one of the biggest events of their life. i wish i could say " the nba and the spurs organization for holding them like mere rats" but truth is, its part of their choice too. If you are a fan i can understand somehow how you wouldnt like your players to get hurt, but get real, this is wrong.
This isnt USA´s NBA anymore, its filled of international players, and this type of behavior("you go to play for the WC and bye bye kansas") should be sanctioned heavily.
At least manu has a much more understandable excuse.
I will be ing pissed if anyone on this team play with any NT this summer.
Ths Spurs should be punished by the nba, They are pressing players, violating the agreement between nba and fiba.
Tiago is like Scola, always play for his NT!
its fine to play for your NT.. just until you have an injury that affects your NBA team and season.... spurs pay the bills. not the national team.
manu and now tony have both affected the spurs during the season now. especially manu
Problem is that right now, NBA teams have zero leverage to tell players NOT to play. Basically, telling a player not to play for their national team is like telling them not to do anything else that's not explicitly forbade in their contract... and in fact, is even LESS acceptable because its strictly stated that teams CAN'T tell players not to play NT ball.
This is a problem that really needs to be worked out at the league level and in the next CBA. The league needs to allow players to attach a monetary value to their desire to play national team ball. If it really matters to a particular player, well, maybe they accept a smaller contract that lets them play any time they want. In THAT case, the team and its fans would need to just back off, because it was understood when that player signed that playing for their country was part of the package. By the same token, a player could sign a larger contract with a "no NT" clause, and would then have no valid complaint because they knew they would not be able to play during the summer when they signed their deal.
I understand that under rule the spurs shouldnt be telling players this, but i also understand why the spurs are telling them this.
But yeah, definitely an issue that needs to be resolved.
Guys....don't forget that this is the only way the american NT can have chance to win this le...
If all NT team have their nba players, US NT could be wiped by Spain, Greece or even France...
Anyway, it is not a big deal, Parker is not needed in the french NT, we have a rodrigue beaubois that will be the next french big nba star, we have Noah, Pietro, Turiak, Diaw, De colo...and many many more
Dedication and Loyalty. Extend that man.
okay? good luck with that.Guys....don't forget that this is the only way the american NT can have chance to win this le...
If all NT team have their nba players, US NT could be wiped by Spain, Greece or even France...
Anyway, it is not a big deal, Parker is not needed in the french NT, we have a rodrigue beaubois that will be the next french big nba star, we have Noah, Pietro, Turiak, Diaw, De colo...and many many more
The spurs don't want him to be injured before trading him. Makes sense.
Just so you know, Splitter is not a Spurs yet.
And if Spurs win the championship this year instead of getting swept, I am fine if everybody on the team play with their NTs.
Stop being stupid.
First of all, for those people complaining that the Spurs have no right to convince Parker to not play for the French National Team, last off-season, Mark Cuban talked Dirk into not playing for his German National Team. It is legal to convince a player not to go but if the player really wants to, the team has no choice but to let him go. Nice to see Parker being considerate here. He knows what is at stake come the 2010-2011 season.
Dallas Mavericks forward Dirk Nowitzki revealed Friday that the decision not to play for his country's national team this summer stems from a mutual agreement he hatched years ago with Mavericks owner Mark Cuban.
Irked by press reports suggesting that Cuban barred him for representing Germany at next month's European Championships in Poland, Nowitzki told ESPN.com that his relationship with Cuban is "stronger than ever" and that he had promised his boss that he'd take a step away from international play if the Germans managed to qualify for the Olympics. That happened last summer when Nowitzki's team finally made it to Beijing after missing out in 2000 and 2004.
"I'm not mad at Cubes at all," Nowitzki said in a phone interview. "He's been great to me these last 10, 11 years. He always let me chase my dream. And we always agreed that if I made the Olympics, it would be [time] to take a break.
"This time he basically told me, 'I'd prefer if you not play.' He kind of left it up to me. I think if I would have really kept harping on it, then he wouldn't have tried to stop me. But I think it's the right decision.
"I'm happy I'm keeping my word to him, because he kept his word to me for the last 10, 11 years."
The NBA's agreement with FIBA -- basketball's international governing body -- stipulates that NBA teams cannot prevent their players from participating in international compe ion in the offseason as long as the players' respective national federations can afford the requisite insurance.
The exception to that rule is when a player is injured or still recovering from a do ented injury, as evidenced earlier this week when the Mavericks did invoke their right to prevent reserve guard J.J. Barea from joining Puerto Rico's national team because Barea is still recovering from shoulder surgery in late May...
http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/olybb/...ory?id=4398590
EVen though the Spurs technically did not forbid Tony to play for his NT, it is quite obvious that they have used it as leverage against a player who is going into the last year of his contract. It is just like they did with Manu signing an extension and his suddenly deciding not to play for Argentina. The main thing to notice is that the Spurs at one tme were one of the biggest supporters in the entire league of their guys playing for their respective National Teams.
They have the right to convince and talking into not playing for their NT of course. But they dont have the right to forbid anyone I think that's what those people are saying. But the spurs didnt forbid anything, so there is no problem.
It's a shame for French team, for TP and for the tournament, but it's the most wise decision for himself, his body and the team.
FYI, they haven't.
In 2007, The league send a memo to all NBA teams saying it after Spurs asked Menu no to play for his NT.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66238
"The NBA/FIBA agreement also provides that NBA teams may not take any steps that are intended to deter players from playing in such compe ions," the memo said.
I know, that's why I said, they do have the right to convince, I mean more as in giving advice, to let the player know what they want and how do they see it. But they do not have the right to forbid a player from going to play for their NT. If the player wants to go 100%, then they must let him go, nobody can stop the player.
But of course a team can tell the player that they are not satisfied if he is going to play for NT.
No, they can't. Re-read the memo send by the NBA.
Spurs have violated rules by convincing Parker of not playing with his NT. It isn't even debatable.
I'm sure it's like :
"I'm going to the WC!!!"
"You know you might get an extension this year... or not"
It isn't all that serious. Spurs just gave Parker and Manu their honest opinion about playing in the NT.
I still don't think it effected their decisions.
Manu felt he owed it to the Spurs to finally rest for a summer and actually work on his game with the new contract they gave him.
Parker is not only taking the summer off NT play to work on his game, but also to get stronger and more durable for the biggest contract year of his life. IMO I think preparing for a contract year was the main reason to not play in the NT.
I didn't know that. Thanks for the info.
Free throws would be nice to count on as well, with out that waggy tongue thing he does. He looks like Fred Sanford when he shoots free throws.
I think they told him their opinion and of course the last word was with TP. Yes they probably told him what is better for TP and for the Spurs. But still, the final word is with TP, he has to decide.
The article also speaks about discouraging a player to go. Well yeah, then they did violate it. You are right.
Last edited by Bukefal; 05-14-2010 at 08:47 AM.
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