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    maybe you guys should try to get delonte west

    him and manu would be great coming off the bench
    hahaha...

    cavs fire sale forthcoming I'm sure

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    The Odds years: Drive for Five

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    But Spurs can't forbid you to pay with the FNT

    It's true, they can't say: "You stay with us this summer and you don't have the choice" but I hear their message.
    They should be able too. Get it put in these contracts that you forfeit half your money if you get hurt playing for these teams and nobody will ever play..

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    No, they can't. Re-read the memo send by the NBA.

    Spurs have violated rules by convincing Parker of not playing with his NT. It isn't even debatable.
    IF the player wants to go and play for these teams go right ahead but your team the same team that is paying you 10 plus mil a year can certainly say "We don't see a future for you here if you keep going over there and coming back to us busted up to " I hate the NT team play. Teams can't stop them from going but it becomes 100% their problem when they come back s s of themselves because of injuries.. You make that much money playing in the NBA you should NOT 100% be permitted to play on these teams.. If it means that much to you.. Retire from the NBA, go over there and have a ball..

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    I'll be back next year for the Euro. I told him that I will play in 2011 and 2012. I also told it to Pop.
    Tony seems determined to shorten his NBA career as much as possible..

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    IF the player wants to go and play for these teams go right ahead but your team the same team that is paying you 10 plus mil a year can certainly say "We don't see a future for you here if you keep going over there and coming back to us busted up to "
    In theory, they can't do it because it against NBA rules.
    In the reality, they do it (like Spur did with Parker), they break rules but the NBA let them do it by not sanctioning them.

    I'm just stating rules. I'm not giving my opinion at all on these rules. For the record, I find the current NBA rules about NT horrible. It's a system full of hypocrisies with tons of gray areas where players are put in really uncomfortable situations. The NBA and the FIBA should have a way clearer stance about that.

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    In theory, they can't do it because it against NBA rules.
    In the reality, they do it (like Spur did with Parker), they break rules but the NBA let them do it by not sanctioning them.

    I'm just stating rules. I'm not giving my opinion at all on these rules. For the record, I find the current NBA rules about NT horrible. It's a system full of hypocrisies with tons of gray areas where players are put in really uncomfortable situations. The NBA and the FIBA should have a way clearer stance about that.
    like what ? how do you prevent teams to put pressure on their players in private ?

    the only way i see it is:

    - less games in NBA (82 RS games is just too much, 60 would be enough) and less international compe ions (every year is too much, every two years should be better) to make the cohabitation possible.

    - big fines for players who refuse to go with their NT without being injured (checked by the medical staff of the NT). they could even be banned from their leagues, including the NBA.


    nothing should prevent the international compe ions to exist.

    but, as usual, money will probably win this fight.

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    About time they laid down the law on this NT horse .

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    like what ? how do you prevent teams to put pressure on their players in private ?

    the only way i see it is:

    - less games in NBA (82 RS games is just too much, 60 would be enough) and less international compe ions (every year is too much, every two years should be better) to make the cohabitation possible.

    - big fines for players who refuse to go with their NT without being injured (checked by the medical staff of the NT). they could even be banned from their leagues, including the NBA.


    nothing should prevent the international compe ions to exist.

    but, as usual, money will probably win this fight.

    IMO, they are only 2 clear positions:
    - The NBA splits all his links with FIBA. NBA players aren't allowed at all to play FIBA games when they are under contracts with a NBA team.
    - Do the same system as in soccer. NT coaches are the ones who decides who plays with their NT. A player can't turn down playing for his NT.

    It's easy to understand why the NBA doesn't make a choice:
    - If the NBA splits with FIBA, the NBA product will be less popular outside the USA. It will cost money.
    - If you do the soccer system, the NBA (and the FIBA) must, as you said, shorten their compe ions. It will cost money.

    And the whole situation is really complicate since the money generated by the NBA mainly goes back to its players. Are NBA players ready to take a pay cut to solve this situation while most of the NBA players aren't concerned by NT?

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    About time they laid down the law on this NT horse .
    Yep, it is horse to want to represent your country in a sporting event

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    He's been injured all year. What about that are you NT homers not understanding? Him getting hurt again does not help the FNT or the Spurs.

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    praise the lord.

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    TP not playing with FNT makes one of the headlines on France 2 TV news (8pm) !

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    Well more like a 20 sec brief actually.
    still...

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    Tony seems determined to shorten his NBA career as much as possible..
    so does manu.....

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    Parker was on the French radio today. He basically said the same thing that this interview but he added an interesting tidbit: Spurs owners have lost $20M this year.

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    Yep, it is horse to want to represent your country in a sporting event
    When you make 10 plus mil a year or more and get hurt it is 100% horse- . These guys have no fear of not getting paid, the money is there for them injured or healthy.. It's a joke.. Like i said if it means that much to them retire and have a ball playing for your NT teams..

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    And i hate it..

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    I knew months ago that Ginobili and Parker wouldn't play in the World Championships, but obviously it's still good to get confirmation.

    As many have said, Parker is doing this because it's a contract year and he more than likely has one very good contract left in him. But, it's just as true that he's also doing this because he's a realist and he knows, like most of us know, that next season is probably the final realistic chance to win a championship. There's an outside chance of one more run after that, but I can't see it. It's now or never.

    This team is already facing an uphill battle, mainly because of the ages and mileage of their two best players, but they got quite a bit going for them; more than I think many realize or acknowledge. So it's still doable, but it wouldn't have been had Ginobili and/or Parker played in the World Championships. The Spurs need them healthy and rested from day one next season to have a chance.

    This was step one to (having a chance at) winning championship number five. The next step is the draft (though there's a very real chance that they don't get any help for the up coming season out of it), followed by signing Splitter, a backup veteran wing who provides 3D and a depth big, most likely a shooter.

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