"If Lebron was on the Lakers", and other foolishness

[Ghazi]

lol @ thinking Glassnum's bum ass would've made a difference in the 2008 Finals.

and who the is Trevor Ariza?

[The Gemini Method]

Mogro hits the spot again.


I dont think people realize how good Lebron is. The problem with the Cavs in the playoffs is once they face a real contender in a 7 game series, they're exposed because they dont have any other game plan other than for Lebron to make things happen.


I really dont blame the role players that much, although a true second option wont hurt. But Mike Brown really has wasted Lebron's last 2 years in the league. A coaching change and minor tweaks in Cleveland should be all they need if Lebron decides to stay.

Though, this is pretty accurate, how many of the posters on SpursTalk were counting the Celtics as a contender coming into the playoffs? You even had Celtics fans betting on LeBron's team getting to the le. So, I'm not sure where the consistency was. Or, for that matter in the series. I don't think many would've given you the points or the bets if you took Cleveland to begin with. I've always thought Mike Brown to Lebron; was what Doug Collins was to Michael Jordan. He is the guy that wasn't necessarily a bad coach, just not the right one to take LeBron to the top. I'm not sure who that coach is at this point, but if you're going to hope that LeBron stays home, he's got to go.

[TheMACHINE]

Simple answer. Do you agree, yes or no?

no because im not gonna pretend to see the future and always end up wrong.

[ChrisRichards]

Machine you can't even answer the question. Stop dodging Ben Stiller.

[TheMACHINE]

Machine you can't even answer the question. Stop dodging Ben Stiller.

were you wrong in saying that Jamison would put the Cavs over the top?

[LnGrrrR]

Hey, Mo, you've been called.

I never really got "You joined at this time" smack.

I never heard about this site until a random post on the politics board was posted by Andrew Sullivan. I liked what I saw and joined up. But it's not like I'm some bandwagon fan just cause I wasn't here... I paid my dues watching Antoine all those years, the Vin Baker trade, Raef Lafrentz, the horrible draft picks, the good draft picks we traded away too early, etc etc.

[The Gemini Method]

I never really got "You joined at this time" smack.

I never heard about this site until a random post on the politics board was posted by Andrew Sullivan. I liked what I saw and joined up. But it's not like I'm some bandwagon fan just cause I wasn't here... I paid my dues watching Antoine all those years, the Vin Baker trade, Raef Lafrentz, the horrible draft picks, the good draft picks we traded away too early, etc etc.

I don't get why people use that argument about joining date...lame with a capital off!

[Giuseppe]

I only came here last Summer after the Lakers beat the Magic cuz there was no where else I was welcome. I'd been kicked off every site that I'd ever been on so this was like heaven.

[LnGrrrR]

Though, this is pretty accurate, how many of the posters on SpursTalk were counting the Celtics as a contender coming into the playoffs? You even had Celtics fans betting on LeBron's team getting to the le. So, I'm not sure where the consistency was. Or, for that matter in the series. I don't think many would've given you the points or the bets if you took Cleveland to begin with. I've always thought Mike Brown to Lebron; was what Doug Collins was to Michael Jordan. He is the guy that wasn't necessarily a bad coach, just not the right one to take LeBron to the top. I'm not sure who that coach is at this point, but if you're going to hope that LeBron stays home, he's got to go.

I assumed that the Cavs would play us the way they played us during the regular season. I assumed that Mike Brown knew how to coach... I don't know why. He really got exposed.

That's why I said Cavs in 6; I figured Celt's legs would get tired and Lebron would takeover as he did in the regular season. Just didn't happen though, and Boston played the defense they're capable of.

[The Gemini Method]

I assumed that the Cavs would play us the way they played us during the regular season. I assumed that Mike Brown knew how to coach... I don't know why. He really got exposed.

That's why I said Cavs in 6; I figured Celt's legs would get tired and Lebron would takeover as he did in the regular season. Just didn't happen though, and Boston played the defense they're capable of.

As many already know or have guessed; winning in the regular season is easy. It's the playoffs that provide a different beast and that's why what Popovich and Jackson have done should never be questioned. It's just plain difficult to coach in the playoffs. You get familiarity and learn so much about a team over the course of a 7-game series that a great coach will know how to pick at the so-called wound.

[ChrisRichards]

were you wrong in saying that Jamison would put the Cavs over the top?

Hindsight? 50/50. I think James and his play affected the mindset and atmosphere of the team. I still think Jamison is serviceable, but Brown never utilized him. Furthermore, Jamison at times played like one of the guys out there rather than taking second command of the team.


I understand his reasoning though. Antawn is a class act. He knows he was a new player on a team that has been bonding for the last two years. He's not going to come in and make demands. He was being a team player albeit too quietly.

[Giuseppe]

Originally Posted by TheMACHINE

were you wrong in saying that Jamison would put the Cavs over the top?

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Hindsight? 50/50.

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I God's, ChrisRichards has kinda rolled over. You broke yer own cherry!

Glory B!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[The Gemini Method]

Hindsight? 50/50. I think James and his play affected the mindset and atmosphere of the team. I still think Jamison is serviceable, but Brown never utilized him. Furthermore, Jamison at times played like one of the guys out there rather than taking second command of the team.


I understand his reasoning though. Antawn is a class act. He knows he was a new player on a team that has been bonding for the last two years. He's not going to come in and make demands. He was being a team player albeit too quietly.

That's too passive if you're going to be the 2nd in command, no? That's why I never bought into the idea that Jamison made the Cavs a sure lock for the Finals. His inability to assume Beta dog was his downfall this season. His liability on D, though, was the biggest reason he wasn't able to establish himself. Give credit to the Celtics, whom knew what they were doing, on utilizing KG on Jamison.

[Ghazi]

Fisher June Philadelphia 2001: shhhhhhhhhhhhhh


tee hee

[ChrisRichards]

That's too passive if you're going to be the 2nd in command, no? That's why I never bought into the idea that Jamison made the Cavs a sure lock for the Finals. His inability to assume Beta dog was his downfall this season. His liability on D, though, was the biggest reason he wasn't able to establish himself. Give credit to the Celtics, whom knew what they were doing, on utilizing KG on Jamison.

+ 1 on the Celtics. But TBH, who in their right mind KG would play like this?

[JamStone]

I only came here last Summer after the Lakers beat the Magic cuz there was no where else I was welcome. I'd been kicked off every site that I'd ever been on so this was like heaven.

But you were kicked off this site too.

[JamStone]

Hindsight? 50/50. I think James and his play affected the mindset and atmosphere of the team. I still think Jamison is serviceable, but Brown never utilized him. Furthermore, Jamison at times played like one of the guys out there rather than taking second command of the team.


I understand his reasoning though. Antawn is a class act. He knows he was a new player on a team that has been bonding for the last two years. He's not going to come in and make demands. He was being a team player albeit too quietly.

I think if your approach was that LeBron had a good chance at winning a le this year, almost no one would have argued with you.

But IIRC, you too every opportunity to scream and yell about how much better LeBron was than Kobe and how LeBron winning the le would evidence that. Your praise of LeBron had another agenda, and that was to bash and discredit Kobe.

So, now, what ever kind of air you're trying to blow into your excuses for LeBron, they fall pretty empty.

[ChrisRichards]

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[The Gemini Method]

I think ChrisRichards may have blown a gasket...

[ChrisRichards]

I think ChrisRichards may have blown a gasket...

I dont know what the happened there.

[Giuseppe]

I dont know what the happened there.

You were probably pullin' yer pudd.

Were ya?

[Killakobe81]

"Lakers will not repeat. ORLANDO MAGIC are going to win their 1st NBA le this year and Kobe fanbois will all commit mass suicide once Vince Carter officially and rightfully takes what's his for many years to come"

"Lakers are not even going to advance in the Finals"

Nice job i was gonna keep posting that (old one) all year i still may ...but glad you see the error of your ways CR ....

I also dont mind the love you giving Gasol he deserves it ...but if and when he goes soft for a game or 3 vs the suns, Magic or Celts be fair and call him out for that too.

When Kobe struggles you are quick to come out here and laugh at how many shots Kobe took ...but when pau plays like a wuss you point at his rebounds or FG%

[ChrisRichards]

"Lakers will not repeat. ORLANDO MAGIC are going to win their 1st NBA le this year and Kobe fanbois will all commit mass suicide once Vince Carter officially and rightfully takes what's his for many years to come"

"Lakers are not even going to advance in the Finals"

Nice job i was gonna keep posting that (old one) all year i still may ...but glad you see the error of your ways CR ....

I also dont mind the love you giving Gasol he deserves it ...but if and when he goes soft for a game or 3 vs the suns, Magic or Celts be fair and call him out for that too.

When Kobe struggles you are quick to come out here and laugh at how many shots Kobe took ...but when pau plays like a wuss you point at his rebounds or FG%

Well IMO, its laughable anytime Kobe takes more than 21 shots a game. His cap should be at 21, with the way Gasol has been playing, who will argue?


Anyway, I will call out Gasol if he lays an egg (which he will against the Celtics, if Boston gets there).

[milkshakeballa]

killa,

I don't care about people saying Bron is better than Kobe. I think he is to.

Its just the bull about Kobe needing help thats....some bull . Bron needs the same help. If he didn't, he wouldn't be getting demolished in the 2nd, 3rd round ever year.

All that "Kobe needs an allstar big" looks stupid when Cavs fans and Kobe haters are praying to their God, or Hindu, or Allah, or whoever, that Bron gets the same thing because he can't do without.

Just like 99% of the superstars in the history of the league have needed help. The newflash is coming quick - it ain't just Kobe.

This Kobe can't win without Shaq or Gasol is laughable.

[dallaskd]

i dont care anymore....15 years from now, it'll all about who has more rings anyways.

If Isaiah had Magics team and vice versa, how many rings would they both have? Its a useless arguement cuz other factors lead to different results.

Did anyone think Lebron was gonna eliminated in the 2nd round this year? Of course not...but it happened.

agreed. I dont care who has who. when kobe and lebron are long retired, it will come down to who has more rings.. not who had the supporting cast. my at ude is win or stfu. and right now kobe is winning.