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yet another endorsement for the Spurs resigning Ian - IMO.
I was actually encouraged with the progress he made on his jumper (when he decided to break it out on occasion -- he even had a nice banker in the playoffs). He's got a bit of a one-handed, flat-footed, almost set shot from the short corner that's pretty decent, but he just needs to get some more repe ion and opportunities to hone and perfect it. But what was encouraging (at least in my eyes) was his willingness to stick with the process.
I'm sure you remember what he looked like to start the year with his shot and free-throw stroke, so you're aware of the tweak the staff made with him on his release and routine at the line. The fact that he stuck with it for the remainder of the year, regardless if the free-throw percentage didn't show it, shows me he's got what it takes to become a decent shooter from the floor and even at the line -- shooting's about consistency and confidence more than anything and if you can stay consistent with the mechanics and trust the process, you'll eventually find a decent level of success, which inevitably breeds confidence.
DeJuan's got all the tools -- mentally and physically -- needed to make him a pretty special player, he's just got to put it all together and (knock on wood) stay healthy.
yet another endorsement for the Spurs resigning Ian - IMO.
There's that, the fact that he's still playing for his club team and I presume he's playing in the World Championships, too. He's still young and it's not like he'll be expected to play 35 mpg and be expected to carry the offense for the Spurs, but at the same time he'll have gotten little rest coming into camp. Not good when you're on a team aspiring to play into next June.
Watch Pop, already hesitant to play new players extended minutes, really watch his minutes early. They'll probably be many a game where we're left wondering: Why didn't Splitter play more? Pop now has three reasons not to play him extended minutes. The aforementioned two, plus the fact that he's 6-11, athletic, mobile and young.
Why? Ian is one of the biggest china dolls in the league.
Great points about DeJuan and Tiago, everyone.Here's hoping the Spurs can seal the deal and all this talking won't be for naught.
I had a question to pose to you guys about Tiago's contract. We've talked a fair amount about what it will take money-wise to get Tiago here (with the absolute minimum seeming to be about $3.5 million, and the full MLE being a very probable scenario). However, what do you think about length of the deal? What is the right balance between locking him up for a while and being careful in case he can't effectively make the jump for one reason or another?
Should the Spurs make the contract similar in format to Blair's deal? (2 years fully guaranteed, one partially guaranteed, one fully non-guaranteed.) Will they have to give him three years fully guaranteed? (e.g.- 3 years guaranteed, 4th year team option) Without seeing him in a single game in the NBA, will they make him the first Spur to be under any sort of contract for the 2013/2014 season?
If the Spurs pay Tiago more than Scola contract I think it's overpay. Scola never played a NBA game and got a fair deal. 3years - $9.5 million.
I think the Spurs can even pay a 3year - $10 million.
For those who know about Europe contracts. Do you think Tiago can get more than that in Europe?
Absolutly, i don't see Tiago earning more then 2 - 2,5 million$ in Europe
I think it's somewhere between $4M and $5M, and he's under contract at that rate for two more years.
Splitter salary is €1.4M that is to say $1.73M.
Wow. He'd be crazy not to leave Caja.
...I was among the those who believed this guy was at least getting paid double this already. Good news if this is all he is currently making
Thanks Bruno. How does that relate to taxes (pre-tax vs. post-tax) and other perks that are more common overseas, such as lodging, drivers, etc.?
, we might be able to get him for 1/2 MLE if he only makes that much. The rest might get us a veteran three point sniper.
The whole tax thing is complicate. Tax rules have changed in Spain. Even if Splitter doesn't pay at all taxes on his salary in Spain, it's the equivalent of a $2.8M salary with Spurs. The fall of the Euro will definitely help Spurs to get Splitter.
Drivers aren't something common in Europe. Only teams in countries like Russia or Ukraine pay drivers for their players and it's because these countries are unsafe. The only thing there could have in Splitter contract is the rent of a house but it doesn't represent a lot of money.
Thanks.
With Spain's financial woes I'm sure it is becoming less desirable anyways. Thanks to the PIIGS Europe is slightly less rosy.
I had been thinking that Tiago wouldn't get the whole MLE, but it'd be close. Right about $4M or a little over.
Do you think the Spurs could get away with paying him less; maybe a little closer to Scola's contract?
A salary between $3M and $4M per year seems fair for Splitter when you see Scola and Marc Gasol contracts.
Splitter has recently changed his NBA agent for Arn Tellem, I doubt Spurs will be able to low ball him.
Sounds good to me; Spurs should be left with ~$1.5-2M of their MLE, depending on where the final rate's set.
Not a bad option if the money's there, Phila_.
Yeah, Butler wouldn't be a bad option, although he's another potential candidate for the off the bench wing shooter role coming off a dismal season from three. He shot just .336% and career he's only at .363%. But, he is long and a true SF, even though he's played more SG in recent seasons. I've got the Spurs trading for Cook at the moment, but I could see them signing Butler instead.
I'm guessing the Spurs pay Splitter 3 years/$12 million. lurker23, there's no chance they get him for a year non-guaranteed in case he's a flop. What we might see is a player option or a mutual option for the 3rd season, in case he's not all that comfortable or is a complete bust in the NBA and prefers to go back to Europe.
Just depends on whomever else they look to acquire; seems like Bell wants to be in Miami but you've got to believe Pop and the Spurs are at least going to kick the tires.
I've always liked Butler and thought he'd be someone that could thrive as a Spurs role player, so I've got no real qualms about him taking up a roster spot. I'd just like to see if the Spurs are looking to acquire another vet on the wing and what the ramifications are for the likes of Hairston, Temple, Gee or whomever else they might add in the Summer to take a look at.
The Spurs could definitely do worse than Butler, but I've got The Coalition to run.
I'd be surprised if the Spurs don't acquire some type of veteran wing, even if it is a young player like Cook. The lack of quality options on the wings caught up to them last season and while I agree that Hairston, Gee, etc. shouldn't be buried behind minimal types like Bogans, it would be foolish to not have one more established player ahead of them, both for depth purposes and because neither is established. I understand you can't become established without opportunity, but for a team trying to win a championship they can't put all their eggs in one basket in this regard. The Spurs need someone better than Bogans and what Mason gave them this season.
I'd be surprised if Butler signed for the minimum. He just made almost $4 million this past season, is right in the prime of his career and averaged double figures points. Plus, even though he's not starting material, he did start the past two seasons for the most part. There's no reason he couldn't at least get the LLE.
No, I agree. But I was stating if they're going to add a veteran -- say Bell -- and add Butler, then I'd have some reservations.
If it's just Butler and you've still got the young guys, I wouldn't have much of a problem with it.
Actually, if they've addressed their needs and still have the money, adding Bell and Butler in place of Mason and Bogans wouldn't be a problem at all, if they decide on going with 15 again.
But I'm not sure that's the case . . .
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