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    If the Spurs can't get Tiago out of Europe, its over for the Spurs.
    Why? They didn't do bad this year without him. Jefferson should be more comfortable next year, Hill may continue to improve, Blair should be better, and if Splitter doesn't come over, that gives the Spurs the full MLE to do some shopping. Plus there's a fair chance that Parker won't be struggling all year with plantar fasciitis. Whether Splitter is the Spurs big offseason move or someone else is, there is a good chance that the Spurs will be better next year than this year.

    I think what the OP was getting at was that the Spurs le hopes are over if these things don't happen. Sure they didn't do bad, but I think you're making a big leap of faith if you think that the Spurs will be back in the le mix given just your laundry list.

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    Splitter would be nice but it would not address the problem of defending the pick and roll IMO. Not sure if the guy is coming over or not best case if he doesnt come is...

    Dice calls it quits as he said he may all year. He becomes a great trade chip to a team looking to get another 5.5 mill in cap space.

    I think the spurs are gonna reup Ian, they will let him look around a bit and are likely to sign him on the cheap.

    I think we target Mike Miller, Channing Frye or Brendan Haywood. If we cant land any of those guys I think Rashual Butler would be a great fit at the 2 or 3. Great defender and shooter and may come cheap.

    And who knows we may luck out and get Travis outlaw.


    If Splitter does come over I like use looking to grab George from UNLV in the draft or packing our pick with Dice(if hes gonna retire) and looking to do a sign and trade for a wing like Mike Miller.
    Dice has guaranteed money next year..$4.86 mil to be exact...then he has a salary of about $5 mil the next but I think that only 1/2 of that is guaranteed...don't see Dice calling it quits before next year..as for targeting mike miller...seriously?

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    I do hope we get Splitter and I stil think they should try to bring Javtokas over as well. He's only 30 and seems to have talents.
    Javotkas has no level for NBA.

    Probability = 0.01

    1) Splitter has a contract to finish : 2 years with TAU Vitoria (now Caja Laboral )

    2) Real Madrid is very interesting by Tiago and Madrid can put a lot of money for the indemnity and the Spurs can't pay an indemnity with NBA's regulation.

    3) The best friend of Tiago is Pablo Prigioni, a Real's player.

    4) Tiago is sure to play a lot of minutes with the Real

    5) Ettore Messina is a great coach.
    1) Splitter can ship in the States if the Spurs pays 1 million to Caja Laboral

    2) Splitter won`t go to Real Madrid.

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    Take a look at Splitter's footwork (and Mahinmi's).
    You might need to look up the definition of the term "footwork" because Mahinmi's is excellent. He knows the defense as well as any big on the Spurs team, while Splitter won't, and Mahinmi is an inside player, a shot blocking defender, a post scorer, and a physical specimen, all things Splitter is not.

    The only possible advantage Splitter might have is that he'll be paid too much money to be stashed at the end of the bench, and having any tall person next to Tim Duncan is an improvement over smallball.

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    Spurs in Preview: Will Tiago Splitter finally be coming to South Texas?
    by Dan Oshinsky / KENS 5

    It seems like every summer in San Antonio, locals go chasing after two creatures of almost mythological status. I speak, of course, of two things that are often rumored but rarely seen.

    One’s the chupacabra.

    The other is Tiago Splitter.

    The Man

    Maybe that second name sounds familiar.

    Rumors about the Brazilian-born Splitter entering the NBA Draft started in 2004, but it wasn’t until 2007 when he actually put his name in. By then, he’d been playing pro basketball in Spain for seven years. He was a 7-footer with a true back-to-the-basket game and was dominating compe ion in Europe.

    So the Spurs picked him 28th overall. A few weeks later, he was introduced at a press conference in San Antonio. The talk was about what number Splitter – who wore No. 21 in Spain – would wear in South Texas.

    Except that Splitter decided to return to Spain.

    A year later, the Express-News wrote: “When the Spurs drafted Tiago Splitter…, they were willing to wait one more year to get a player of his ability and size. Now the Spurs' plans to sign Splitter this summer have been put on hold again.”

    And they’ve stayed on hold since – as Splitter stayed in Europe, citing the weakness of the American dollar and the fact that the Spurs couldn’t legally offer him more than $970,000. His Spanish team could pay him far more.

    But the window has opened again for Splitter to leave Spain, join the Spurs and become an immediate contributor. In San Antonio, the 25-year-old Brazilian would be a starter.

    But the same question remains as before. Splitter’s turned down the Spurs twice before. In 2010, will he turn his back on South Texas again?

    The Chase

    Yahoo! Sports’ Kelly Dwyer breaks down the situation nicely:

    “Can San Antonio sign him? They're confident, but Tiago is essentially a free agent that the Spurs have the first, legal, crack at. And because they're over the cap, the most the Spurs could offer Splitter is the Mid-Level Exception, and that's not exactly a prize to jump at, if you're Splitter. It has to happen this offseason, as well, as the big man has an opt-out clause this summer, but a four-year deal overall with Cabo Laborol that he's halfway through.”

    The key word in there is ‘Mid-Level Exemption.’ What that means is that the Spurs are already over the salary cap at the beginning of the offseason, but they’re can still sign an additional player. But there’s a catch: that player’s salary must be equal to the average NBA salary. Last season, that amount was $5.85 million.

    But what this really comes down to is Greece.

    The Fall of Athens

    That's not a typo. The Spurs might have a shot to sign Splitter – and if they don’t sign him this year, he’s locked into his Spanish contract until 2012 – because of what's happening across the Atlantic.

    If you've been near a TV recently, you've probably seen that the Greek economy is in turmoil. And as the Greek economy drops, the euro has also dropped.

    What it means is that the dollar is as strong as it’s been in some time against Europe’s currency. So that massive contract Splitter’s got in Spain suddenly isn’t as large as it once was.

    Suddenly, $6 million American might not be such a bad deal for Splitter.

    I’m not advising that Spurs fans openly root for the collapse of the European economic system. But I am saying that it’s probably not hurting San Antonio’s chances of landing an inside presence in 2010.

    The Final Verdict

    The Spurs will make a very strong push for Splitter this summer. San Antonio needs another body inside, one who can take some of the scoring burden off Tim Duncan, and all indications from Spain are that Splitter can do it. He also gives the Spurs the liberty to draft a project at power forward and give him time to develop.

    But Splitter’s decision comes down to two factors: money and ambition. If he’s happy living in Spain, it’s an easy decision, because he’s already making more money there. But if he wants to prove himself in the best basketball league in the world, the Spurs will have a real chance to land a player who probably should have been here three years ago.

    And if Splitter comes, well, maybe the discovery of a live chupacabra isn’t too far off.

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    Dice has said there is a very good chance he will hang it up after this season, his words not mine. Remember a player may have guaranteed money but if he retires he is not paid, so his contract much like Danny Ferrys did becomes a very nice asset.
    Dice said he is likely to retire after the 2010-11 season, not after this season.

    His actual words from an April interview:

    "Next year, definitely," McDyess, 35, said of playing a 16th NBA season in 2010-11. "Then it's really going to be tough (to keep playing). It's been tough on my body just playing. That would be 17 years (if McDyess fulfilled the life of his contract) ... Personally, I don't think I'll have it after next year. Just the get up about myself playing ... My odds are no (about playing beyond next season).''

    http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/04/11/m...er-next-seaso/

    Also, Danny Ferry's contract was a valuable trade asset because it contained a team option for the 2003-04 season. As such, it could be included in a trade at the full value of the contract in the summer of 2003 but the receiving team (Indiana) was able to waive him and owe him nothing. He retired after he was waived.

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    Tiago named MVP of Spanish ACB btw.

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    I have seen some highlights of splitter. Not at all impressed with the level of compe ion in those leagues.

    That league he plays in looks really weak compared to what he will be seeing in the NBA. Not many talented bigs or bigs for that matter in those leagues as compared to the NBA so it is hard to tell if Splitter will be much more than a role player.

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    Spurs in Preview: Will Tiago Splitter finally be coming to South Texas?
    by Dan Oshinsky / KENS 5

    What it means is that the dollar is as strong as it’s been in some time against Europe’s currency. So that massive contract Splitter’s got in Spain suddenly isn’t as large as it once was.
    Maybe someone like Bruno or other can wiegh in on this but I am pretty sure it has been mentioned that Splitter is making about 2 million US$ hardly a massive contract - the issue in past when Spurs attempted to sway Splitter was they were bound by rookie pay scale - I not even sure it will take full MLE $$ to get Splitter here

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    The Rockets will be scary next season:

    Yao, Splitter, Scola........

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    I have seen some highlights of splitter. Not at all impressed with the level of compe ion in those leagues.

    That league he plays in looks really weak compared to what he will be seeing in the NBA. Not many talented bigs or bigs for that matter in those leagues as compared to the NBA so it is hard to tell if Splitter will be much more than a role player.
    While the ACB certainly isn't the NBA it is the 2nd best league in the world - bottom line is Splitter would be second best low post scorer behind Duncan and 2nd best defender against true bigs behind Duncan - while you never can say for sure how a euro will translate to NBA - this guy is light years ahead of any collegiate player and don't see any FA for the same $$ that would be better

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    The Rockets will be scary next season:

    Yao, Splitter, Scola........
    Sorry, no more homesick Greek guards to trade.

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    I have seen some highlights of splitter. Not at all impressed with the level of compe ion in those leagues.

    That league he plays in looks really weak compared to what he will be seeing in the NBA. Not many talented bigs or bigs for that matter in those leagues as compared to the NBA so it is hard to tell if Splitter will be much more than a role player.
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