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    so, a true fan doesn't want his team to reload and get back into contention, a true fan wants to see his favorite team squalor around in futility/misery for a few more years first?


    you must really hate that 97 season.

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    so, a true fan doesn't want his team to reload and get back into contention, a true fan wants to see his favorite team squalor around in futility/misery for a few more years first?


    you must really hate that 97 season.
    But, who are you to assume they can't get back into the le hunt? The Celtics looked DOA at the end of the regular season, yet now their a legit threat to win the ECF. The Spurs need to make intelligent moves in free agency and the draft, while also hoping that things fall their way with health/chemistry.

    Why should they squander the last two years of Timmy's career trying to completely "reload?" Unless, you're okay with them having to be lottery bound for the next season or two? I'd rather they make smart off-season maneuvers and then going back to a more defensive-minded line-up/strategy.

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    Spurs' Parker wants to become a Knick?
    By Mark J. Miller

    San Antonio Spurs guard Tony Parker(notes) may be headed out of Texas in the direction of New York sometime this summer.
    Parker isn't one of the seven billion megatalents that become free agents this summer but the New York Daily News reported this weekend that Parker has told pals that he would like to be traded to the lowly New York Knicks.
    He averaged 16 points, 2.4 rebounds, and 5.7 assists per game this season and led his team into he second round of the playoffs before being ousted by the Phoenix Suns.
    Parker has denied his interest, but sources tell the Daily News he's interested. It might be nice for the 28-year-old Parker to head to New York, particularly for his actress wife, Eva Longoria.
    The problem is that that the Knicks might not have one thing the Spurs would like.
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    Source: New York Daily News

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    and since re-signing Manu was obviously a mistake, maybe the Spurs have learned from it.

    TD era is over, I'd trade TP for a couple first round picks, Manu too

    tank 2010/11
    You really believe resigning Manu was an obvious mistake? Explain why?

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    The only way for parker to get a max contract out of the Spurs in our current situation is for the Spurs to win another championship and parker being a big part of it. Otherwise, no. The Spurs should explore other options if they think it will propel them for serious le runs. You'll know Tim Duncan will probably trade half the team(including Manu,Parker) if you told him he will win another championship. Would we want the Spurs to become the phoenix suns of the 2010's?

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    David Lee would be a great addition to this team, but not at the expense of letting Parker go to New York! If we can get rid of Jeffersons junk contract, and send some pics or dump Mason and Bogans, then it can happen. We need Splitter, and another big man.

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    this is re ed. tony doesnt want to go to ing new york. get over it.

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    this is re ed. tony doesnt want to go to ing new york. get over it.
    Exactly, and why would NY be particular nice for Eva ? Even if it would be like that, than she would rather be in LA don't you think? But, Eva loves SA, so this is crap. All the crap reporters are writing is unbelievable.

    Tony isn't going anywhere and Eva doesn't want to go anywhere. He wants to stay in SA and is going to stay in SA.

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    First off, I don't think Tony will be going to NY, however, Thierry Henry is being linked to serious discussions with the New York Red Bull. Apparently Henry and Parker are good friends, seems like it would be something if they could both pull NY franchises out of their losing ways.
    This isn't the year to speculate on Parker's departure. He isn't a free agent, and the Spurs organization would never trade Tony to NY as it stands right now.
    After the offseason, and NY has gone on their spending spree, probably over paying several players the trade deadline will be the best time to guess/worry. New York will have tradable pieces at that point. All these teams are going to be shuffling the decks and they won't all work out. Depending on how the season starts for the Spurs, that is the time to speculate. Plus, I don't think Henry is going to start playing till the beginning of the next MLS season, which would starts a little after the NBA trade deadline I believe.

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    David Lee would be a great addition to this team, but not at the expense of letting Parker go to New York! If we can get rid of Jeffersons junk contract, and send some pics or dump Mason and Bogans, then it can happen. We need Splitter, and another big man.
    I don't dislike Lee, but he doesn't add anything that this team needs. He's not a shotblocker, he's not a perimeter shooter, and he's a terrible defensive big.

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    First off, I don't think Tony will be going to NY, however, Thierry Henry is being linked to serious discussions with the New York Red Bull. Apparently Henry and Parker are good friends, seems like it would be something if they could both pull NY franchises out of their losing ways.
    This isn't the year to speculate on Parker's departure. He isn't a free agent, and the Spurs organization would never trade Tony to NY as it stands right now.
    After the offseason, and NY has gone on their spending spree, probably over paying several players the trade deadline will be the best time to guess/worry. New York will have tradable pieces at that point. All these teams are going to be shuffling the decks and they won't all work out. Depending on how the season starts for the Spurs, that is the time to speculate. Plus, I don't think Henry is going to start playing till the beginning of the next MLS season, which would starts a little after the NBA trade deadline I believe.
    lol at thinking that one of the TP reasons to sign for NY could be his buddy Henry

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    lol at thinking that one of the TP reasons to sign for NY could be his buddy Henry
    Somebody doesn't understand marketing

    Way to half read, I said Tony isn't getting traded, and he won't this off season. I said depending on how the season plays out, the trade deadline is more realistic as far as trading Tony goes for the Spurs FO when considering NY. I don't know if you have ever been to NYC, but I live here, and I guarantee if Henry and Parker both came here you wouldn't be able to walk five feet without seeing the French nationals on every billboard selling every product from food to tampons. So if you think about endorsements involved, I would imagine it would soften the blow a little on how Tony feels being dealt away from a team he helped make a dynasty.

    I love Tony as a player, I don't want the spurs to trade him, and I don't think they should unless the trade was unreal like Bosh and a first round pick, but that isn't going to happen.
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    David Lee would be a great addition to this team, but not at the expense of letting Parker go to New York! If we can get rid of Jeffersons junk contract, and send some pics or dump Mason and Bogans, then it can happen. We need Splitter, and another big man.
    Mason and Bogans are both FAs, so no need to worry about them. KB may return based on what the FO is able to do over the summer, but I doubt that it was lost on them that his defense was rarely good enough to justify his offensive shortcomings.

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    First off, I don't think Tony will be going to NY, however, Thierry Henry is being linked to serious discussions with the New York Red Bull. Apparently Henry and Parker are good friends, seems like it would be something if they could both pull NY franchises out of their losing ways.
    This isn't the year to speculate on Parker's departure. He isn't a free agent, and the Spurs organization would never trade Tony to NY as it stands right now.
    After the offseason, and NY has gone on their spending spree, probably over paying several players the trade deadline will be the best time to guess/worry. New York will have tradable pieces at that point. All these teams are going to be shuffling the decks and they won't all work out. Depending on how the season starts for the Spurs, that is the time to speculate. Plus, I don't think Henry is going to start playing till the beginning of the next MLS season, which would starts a little after the NBA trade deadline I believe.
    Henry now?

    come on man, please. this is bs. how can you seriously think henry is a factor in this. The fact that people even bring henry up in these speculation discussions is ridiculous. haha as brasil said very well, lol at thinking henry could be a reason.


    Please mods, close this thread. It should be.

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    Has anyone ever been to France or NYC? I don't understand how marketing comes into the equation for Lebron coming to NY but it disappears when Henry and Parker come into play.

    Even Grant Wahl, one of my favorite SI writers brings up Tony Parker in relationship to Henry in this article.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...html?eref=sihp

    I am just curious. All the talk about Parker wanting to move because of Eva is way worse than a marketing strategy that I am not saying would be the reason for Parker wanting to leave, I never said that, but it sure as wouldn't hurt.

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    First off, I don't think Tony will be going to NY, however, Thierry Henry is being linked to serious discussions with the New York Red Bull. Apparently Henry and Parker are good friends, seems like it would be something if they could both pull NY franchises out of their losing ways.
    This isn't the year to speculate on Parker's departure. He isn't a free agent, and the Spurs organization would never trade Tony to NY as it stands right now.
    After the offseason, and NY has gone on their spending spree, probably over paying several players the trade deadline will be the best time to guess/worry. New York will have tradable pieces at that point. All these teams are going to be shuffling the decks and they won't all work out. Depending on how the season starts for the Spurs, that is the time to speculate. Plus, I don't think Henry is going to start playing till the beginning of the next MLS season, which would starts a little after the NBA trade deadline I believe.
    Has anyone ever been to France or NYC? I don't understand how marketing comes into the equation for Lebron coming to NY but it disappears when Henry and Parker come into play.

    Even Grant Wahl, one of my favorite SI writers brings up Tony Parker in relationship to Henry in this article.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...html?eref=sihp

    I am just curious. All the talk about Parker wanting to move because of Eva is way worse than a marketing strategy that I am not saying would be the reason for Parker wanting to leave, I never said that, but it sure as wouldn't hurt.
    What does having been to France or NY have to do with this? lol Yeah i have been to FRance,

    Come on man, marketing hasn't anything to do with this, especially not with Henry and Parker and New York. Or with Parker going to New York faster because of Henry. Parker is having more marketing in SA than that he would go to NY and be joined by Henry as you say.

    I don't even know what to say anymore, because this doesn't make sense and is ridiculous.

    Besides, the article only says parker can give him advice on how to make it in NY. He's not making a ridiculous link between the two both playing in NY or something. I dont know where in that article you saw something about getting henry into relationship with parker as a reason for him to go to NY.

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    If you think San Antonio can give Tony Parker more marketing dollars than New York City you are out of your mind. The reason I say you kids should see NY because whatever city you live in you can't imagine the insane amount of of ads there are around NY.
    Obviously there are more retail stores and frankly more Knick fans, especially if the Knicks starting winning. THere are just more people in NY than San Antonio, so yes, marketing dollars would be higher here. That is all I am saying. That is why San Antonio is considered a "small market team". I lived in SA and I currently live in NY. There is a big difference between what is possible marketing wise between the two cities.
    People make money off of athletes, and I am just saying that were Henry and Parker to both be in NY playing there would be a marketing ploy to capitalize. The Grant Wahl article was going for the friends angle, which I think means nothing, but why name drop Tony, because readers know Tony Parker, he is trying to draw his readers in. It is business, good business to link the two together.

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    I don't doubt that Tony could bank in New York, but at the same time, France is bigger than NYC, and Tony is bigger there than he could ever be in NYC. All to say that he has his financial bases more than covered.

    Is he greedy enough to feel a need to supplement his income by adding NYC to his portfolio? Maybe. But I also think he's more level-headed than he gets credit for. His wife has family here, he and Eva (whose "brand" is dependent on being a TX girl, at least ostensibly) have had a home here for years, and NY has yet to prove it can put a compe ive squad on the floor (compe ive relevance being important enough to him to have accepted a reduced salary with the Spurs... which also undermines the idea that he's simply in it for the $$$).

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    Henry going to new york, yeah thats marketing, only for the MLS NY team, maybe. But marketing and henry being a reason for parker to go to ny? that is bull . I dont get how do you link those two and henry being a reason for tp go to ny. To think that TP would more likely go to NY because of Henry and marketing together with Henry is ridiculous.

    And even if, i dont think the both of them will have any significant marketing impact in NY. Talking about lebron going to ny, yes that would be a major marketing, but parker together with henry in new york? dont think so.

    But its pointless, in the first place these whole speculations are pointless, tp isnt going anywhere and second, to think henry will be a reason for him to go there, is the biggest BS, so i don't even know why im still responding and discussing this.

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    For Knicks fans pining for Tony Parker, forget it. A sign-and-trade for David Lee doesn't interest Spurs. Doesn't fit their salary structure

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    From Adrian Wojnarowski on Twitter:

    "For Knicks fans pining for Tony Parker, forget it. A sign-and-trade for David Lee doesn't interest Spurs. Doesn't fit their salary structure"

    http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA


    Edit: Good job beating me to the punch, Pistons<Spurs.

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    This takes Tony off the board to the Knicks. They have no other pieces.

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    This takes Tony off the board to the Knicks. They have no other pieces.
    Couldn't the Spurs work out a 3-way trade if they don't want anything from the Knicks but can find someone that does?

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    This takes Tony off the board to the Knicks. They have no other pieces.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLD19ypf4uw

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    Gotta love the people who want to work a trade just for the sake of trading.

    "I wish the Spurs would trade their youngest and best player so that something exciting will happen!!!"

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