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    Right because big, beefy muscle bound guys never pick up fouls when they're getting outquicked by guys 4x as fast as them. Shaq better pick up fouls because Hakeem will be blowing by him on the way to the rim for easy layups or nailing jumpers if Shaq plays off him. As for Shaq: Rick Smits, Mutombo, and whoever the Nets trotted out (I can't be bothered to check) versus Ewing, Robinson, and Shaq. Advantage: Hakeem x1 billion.


    Shaq would have just gotten into hakeems head with all those dunks, and fouled him out first.

    LA Horry can guard Hakeem better than Rocket Horry could Shaq.

    After Horry in Houston.. you had Carl herrera and Pete Chilcutt.. ROFL!!!

    Sorry guy.

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    From watching my team win gold? No.

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    Shaq would have just gotten into hakeems head with all those dunks, and fouled him out first.

    LA Horry can guard Hakeem better than Rocket Horry could Shaq.

    After Horry in Houston.. you had Carl herrera and Pete Chilcutt.. ROFL!!!

    Sorry guy.
    GTFO!!!

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    Did Malone or Barkley guard Hakeem?

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    Olajuwon was so great that he could never get to, let alone get past, Jordan. Meanwhile, Duncan twice went through O'Neal AND Bryant, including once after they were at the top. And he did it without a clear cut second star.

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    Olajuwon was so great that he could never get to, let alone get past, Jordan. Meanwhile, Duncan twice went through O'Neal AND Bryant, including once after they were at the top. And he did it without a clear cut second star.
    You're pushing it now! If you use that logic, then Duncan wasn't that great because he never got through him either? ing idiot

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    In other non related news.

    Cane is a got.
    Haha the hurt is strong with this one but I don't even remember this guy.

    Ewing averaged 18.0 ppg on 36.4% shooting and was completely taken out of his game by Olajuwon. He was outscored in all 7 by Hakeem. Robinson suffered as well with three poor shooting games (combined 18-48 in those games). O'Neal was the only one who put up good numbers. He was still swept and outscored in every game.
    Damn Ewing got schooled. Did Hakeem guard Malone?

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    Olajuwon was so great that he could never get to, let alone get past, Jordan.
    He was there in 1994 and '95.

    Jordan apparently had other things to do in those years.

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    Jordan played in 95

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    Ewing averaged 18.0 ppg on 36.4% shooting and was completely taken out of his game by Olajuwon. He was outscored in all 7 by Hakeem. Robinson suffered as well with three poor shooting games (combined 18-48 in those games). O'Neal was the only one who put up good numbers. He was still swept and outscored in every game.
    Oh Robinson had a miserable 24 ppg.

    And that's with Rodman sitting out the last 2, basically him guarding the bigs all by himself.

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    You're pushing it now! If you use that logic, then Duncan wasn't that great because he never got through him either? ing idiot
    I knew that would strike a cord. Duncan didn't have much of a chance, genius. He had one season in the league before Jordan retired.

    He got there in '94 and '95...my point exactly. What coincided with those two years (at least the better part of them)?

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    Shaq would have just gotten into hakeems head with all those dunks, and fouled him out first.

    LA Horry can guard Hakeem better than Rocket Horry could Shaq.

    After Horry in Houston.. you had Carl herrera and Pete Chilcutt.. ROFL!!!

    Sorry guy.
    Hakeem's crazy successful arsenal of spin moves and up and unders probably with Shaq's head way more than O'Neals King Kong like dunks. To quote Shaq:

    "Hakeem has five moves, then four countermoves -- that gives him 20 moves." (http://www.nba.com/history/players/olajuwon_bio.html)

    Again, if you're too slow to guard someone gaining 40 lbs is not the remedy.

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    I knew that would strike a chord. Duncan didn't have much of a chance, genius. He had one season in the league before Jordan retired.
    By that logic, you say Hakeem won because Jordan retired, well Duncan won because Jordan retired as well

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    We don't know that, though, because, again, Duncan only had one chance. Olajuwon had many chances, just couldn't get it done.

    I never said Olajuwon won because Jordan retired. What I said was he never got to, let alone beat Jordan, the dominant force in his era. The other dominant force in the Duncan era was O'Neal/Bryant. Duncan got through them twice.

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    Duncan's my fave player of all time. He's the clear player of the decade despite what the bull media says, a top 10 player in NBA history, and has had the best career since MJ.

    But some of the Duncan homerism in this thread is approaching Kobe kid levels.

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    Duncan's my fave player of all time. He's the clear player of the decade despite what the bull media says, a top 10 player in NBA history, and has had the best career since MJ.

    But some of the Duncan homerism in this thread is approaching Kobe kid levels.

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    spurs fans are so delusional... prime dream would eat prime duncan for breakfast. duncan's had to face a lazy fat shaq at worse. dream had to face much better compe ion/teams.

    doesnt mean duncan didnt have a more prosperous career.

    jordan/bulls got bent over by the magic, who got bent over by the rockets in 95.

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    We don't know that, though, because, again, Duncan only had one chance. Olajuwon had many chances, just couldn't get it done.
    And Duncan could have gotten past Jordan? Wow your homerism levels are off the charts

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    No one has answered the question of duration of Hakeem's prime.

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    No one has answered the question of duration of Hakeem's prime.
    he was pretty beast from 84-97 ...

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    And Duncan could have gotten past Jordan? Wow your homerism levels are off the charts
    Maybe. I think the '99 Spurs would have beat the Bulls, had they kept their '98 team mostly intact. People forget, they were vulnerable and ripe for the picking in '98. Running on fumes. The Pacers and the Jazz should have beaten them. I can't see the Bulls, a year older, beating the Spurs, who were one of the most underrated teams of all-time.

    The point is Duncan got past the other dominant force of his era and he did so multiple times.

    What homerism? Every time a Spurs fan doesn't concede that damn near anyone who was half decent was better than Duncan, other fans flip out. There's ample evidence to suggest Duncan was the better player. You may not agree, that's fine, but don't act like I'm just grasping at straws. It's not like I'm saying Ewing was better than Olajuwon, or even Robinson.

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    Hakeem in his prime was as good as anyone, but career was I still say Duncan > Hakeem because his prime was a lot longer than 2 years.
    The biggest myth is sports.

    I love when people try to say Hakeem was only dominant for two years....

    More like he was only surrounded by great teammates for 2 years.

    Pull up Hakeem's #s and show me where his prime only lasted 2 seasons. Given the same surrounding cast as Duncan...Hakeem would literally take a all over Duncan. He was a bad bad man, and arguably the most complete player the game has ever seen.

    No one has answered the question of duration of Hakeem's prime.
    see above.

    Hakeem had MANY years more dominant than Duncan, but the dude can't help it if he was surrounded by crap most of his career. LMFAO...is this now the argument that SA fans use.

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    No one has answered the question of duration of Hakeem's prime.
    Judging by his performance in the 1986 Finals I'd say his prime was a good ten years.

    Check that- judging by his performance in the 1983 NCAA Tournament his prime was about 13 years.

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    Maybe. I think the '99 Spurs would have beat the Bulls, had they kept their '98 team mostly intact. People forget, they were vulnerable and ripe for the picking in '98. Running on fumes. The Pacers and the Jazz should have beaten them. I can't see the Bulls, a year older, beating the Spurs, who were one of the most underrated teams of all-time (the '99 team).

    The point is Duncan got past the other dominant force of his era and he did so multiple times.

    What homerism? Every time a Spurs fan doesn't concede that damn near anyone who was half decent was better than Duncan, other fans flip out. There's ample evidence to suggest Duncan was the better player. You may not agree, that's fine, but don't act like I'm just grasping at straws. It's not like I'm saying Ewing was better than Olajuwon, or even Robinson.
    And Hakeem didn't? Got past Barkley, Malone/Stockton, Robinson, etc...

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