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    Let me give a quick preview of Cousins. He is a light footed, quick and lean Center who could play power forward. Remind you of anyone? Think David Robinson.

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    Let me give a quick preview of Cousins. He is a light footed, quick and lean Center who could play power forward. Remind you of anyone? Think David Robinson.
    he is hardly a lean player, weighed in at 292 with 16.4% bodyfat. favors in comparison is 245 with a bf% of 6.5.
    http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/

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    he is hardly a lean player, weighed in at 292 with 16.4% bodyfat. favors in comparison is 245 with a bf% of 6.5.
    http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/
    He's lost 25 pounds waiting for the draft and working out. We'll see what he comes out at.

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    He's lost 25 pounds waiting for the draft and working out. We'll see what he comes out at.
    Those numbers are from today or last night.

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    he is hardly a lean player, weighed in at 292 with 16.4% bodyfat. favors in comparison is 245 with a bf% of 6.5.
    http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/
    Not only is he not very lean, from the Kentucky games I saw, "quick" wouldn't be on my list of adjectives, and "lightfooted" is almost a joke.

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    As much as I value Parker, Spurs would have to consider Devin Harris and the #3 pick in the draft for Parker. It would really be a fair deal. IMO.

    In my opinion, Parker has to have an All-Star type season by the All-Star break for the Spurs to really consider giving the extension Parker is looking for(the max-extension). If this scenario plays out then Spurs' future won't be as vulnerable from a talent standpoint.

    On the other hand, if he has a so-so year, I don't see the Spurs giving Parker the max deal extension at any point in the season. Which would put the Spurs in a vulnerable position once the Free Agency period begins because of the chances of Parker signing elsewhere and leaving the Spurs empty handed. (This scenario is the most realistic in my opinion. I don't think Spurs are going to want to give Parker the max-level extension. And I believe Parker and his group will demand nothing but the max.)

    If Spurs hold on to Parker and lose out on the gamble by him latching on to another team during Free Agency, the Spurs will still have around 15 million in cap space in free agency. Problem with that is top-free agents will no longer see San Antonio as a place to go win a championship. This reasoning and with San Antonio being a small market, makes me believe it will be a long-shot for the Spurs to sign any significant 10-13 million dollar player that's actually worth the money. To be honest they will probably have to overpay marginal talent to win any free agent over.

    It's going to be a tough decision for the Spurs as it all unfolds. Hold on to Parker and run the risk of him going elsewhere and be left with nothing in return? Give in and overpay Parker the max level extension, crippling your franchise from a financial standpoint ? Or trade Parker now guaranteeing your franchise talent to replace a player of such caliber and also giving more flexibility to add talent with more finances? Tough decision for R.C and Pop. IMO


    IMO. If I'm the Spurs and Net's offered me Devin Harris and the #3 pick in the draft for Parker, after much deliberation I'd have to probably agree.
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    As much as I value Parker, Spurs would have to consider Devin Harris and the #3 pick in the draft for Parker. It would really be a fair deal. IMO.

    In my opinion, Parker has to have an All-Star type season by the All-Star break for the Spurs to really consider giving the extension Parker is looking for(the max-extension). If this scenario plays out then Spurs' future won't be as vulnerable from a talent standpoint.

    On the other hand, if he has a so-so year, I don't see the Spurs giving Parker the max deal extension at any point in the season. Which would put the Spurs in a vulnerable position once the Free Agency period begins because of the chances of Parker signing elsewhere and leaving the Spurs empty handed. (This scenario is the most realistic in my opinion. I don't think Spurs are going to want to give Parker the max-level extension. And I believe Parker and his group will demand nothing but the max.)

    If Spurs hold on to Parker and lose out on the gamble by him latching on to another team during Free Agency, the Spurs will still have around 15 million in cap space in free agency. Problem with that is top-free agents will no longer see San Antonio as a place to go win a championship. This reasoning and with San Antonio being a small market, makes me believe it will be a long-shot for the Spurs to sign any significant 10-13 million dollar player that's actually worth the money. To be honest they will probably have to overpay marginal talent to win any free agent over.

    It's going to be a tough decision for the Spurs as it all unfolds. Hold on to Parker and run the risk of him going elsewhere and be left with nothing in return? Give in and overpay Parker the max level extension, crippling your franchise from a financial standpoint ? Or trade Parker now guaranteeing your franchise talent to replace a player of such caliber and also giving more flexibility to add talent with more finances? Tough decision for R.C and Pop. IMO


    IMO. If I'm the Spurs and Net's offered me Devin Harris and the #3 pick in the draft for Parker, after much deliberation I'd have to probably agree.

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    Not a chance. An injuried plagued p;arker for Harris and the #3 pick is fair? Harris put up the same numbers Tony did this year and you want the #3 pick included. Not a chance. lol

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    IMO. If I'm the Spurs and Net's offered me Devin Harris and the #3 pick in the draft for Parker, after much deliberation I'd have to probably agree.
    I can't see it happening, but I agree that the Spurs should make that trade if offered. Generally, teams only get a top-3 pick by suffering through a 20-win season. Getting a top-3 pick in exchange for downgrading from Parker to Harris is a very good deal.

    Still don't know why NJ makes the deal unless the Russian guy really wants to add Paris and Hollywood to the global brand he wants to create.

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    I can't see it happening, but I agree that the Spurs should make that trade if offered. Generally, teams only get a top-3 pick by suffering through a 20-win season. Getting a top-3 pick in exchange for downgrading from Parker to Harris is a very good deal.

    Still don't know why NJ makes the deal unless the Russian guy really wants to add Paris and Hollywood to the global brand he wants to create.
    I agree.

    I was just stating if the scenario were to play out where the offer was made by New Jersey. IMO The only way I see New Jersey agreeing to such a deal is if the 20th pick and maybe Blair is included and obviously if Parker agreed to a long-term deal with New Jersey(which I don't really see Tony doing).

    It was just my opinion on if the offer was made. Spurs have a tough decision on the Parker situation.

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    Spurs requested DeMarcus Cousins for an interview, which he seemed willing to do - but his agent advised him not to. When we told him they brought in Favors he seemed a little surprised, like he wished he would have done it. Overall consensus here in Chicago is that agents have way too much control over the process.

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    Spurs have a tough decision on the Parker situation.
    Indeed. I don't think there is a real appreciation for the complications that surround Tony's contract situation. Much more complicated than Manu's case.

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    Let me give a quick preview of Cousins. He is a light footed, quick and lean Center who could play power forward. Remind you of anyone? Think David Robinson.
    Really? From an athletic perspective, he reminded me more of a guy like Dampier. Robinson did have elite athleticism, Cousins doesn't. Cousins is very big and very skilled though, he's going to be good.

    Favors has tremendous defensive potential. Favors is the light footed, quick and lean one that can play both big man positions.

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    Really? From an athletic perspective, he reminded me more of a guy like Dampier. Robinson did have elite athleticism, Cousins doesn't. Cousins is very big and very skilled though, he's going to be good.

    Favors has tremendous defensive potential. Favors is the light footed, quick and lean one that can play both big man positions.

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    Really? From an athletic perspective, he reminded me more of a guy like Dampier. Robinson did have elite athleticism, Cousins doesn't. Cousins is very big and very skilled though, he's going to be good.

    Favors has tremendous defensive potential. Favors is the light footed, quick and lean one that can play both big man positions.
    Cousins is a freshman. Very atheltic. His potential is the sky. And a cornerstone player for a franchise. David played 4 years in college. Cousins has only played 1. If he played 4, he would easily be the #1 noverall pick...everyone and their mother would fight over him. Trust me.

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    Harris would be a very undersized SG. He is 6-3. You look at guys like Manu, Kobe, Roy, ect....they are all 6-6.
    George Hill is 6'2". Just FYI.

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    Cousins is a freshman. Very atheltic. His potential is the sky. And a cornerstone player for a franchise. David played 4 years in college. Cousins has only played 1. If he played 4, he would easily be the #1 noverall pick...everyone and their mother would fight over him. Trust me.

    Just curious, when did you start following the Spurs or even the NBA (honest question)?

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    Just curious, when did you start following the Spurs or even the NBA (honest question)?
    I'm to old to remember. Maybe I've become senile....I was going to games when James Silas, Gervin, Gilmore,...were playing. Does that give you a hint?

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    George Hill is 6'2". Just FYI.
    And what does that mean? Hill is a 'tweener. He's a SG with PG size. Plain and simple.

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    I'm to old to remember. Maybe I've become senile....I was going to games when James Silas, Gervin, Gilmore,...were playing. Does that give you a hint?
    I can forgive senile. I'm sure I'll get there soon enough.

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    I can forgive senile. I'm sure I'll get there soon enough.
    Everyone will...unfortunately.

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    Spurs requested DeMarcus Cousins for an interview, which he seemed willing to do - but his agent advised him not to. When we told him they brought in Favors he seemed a little surprised, like he wished he would have done it. Overall consensus here in Chicago is that agents have way too much control over the process.
    Thanks, Yannis. I didn't see this the first time.

    I always side with due diligence when it comes to these things but the reality of the Spurs is something that you can't simply scoff when seeing a little smoke like this; the Spurs were pretty much as healthy as could be expected by the time the playoffs rolled around and though they obviously ran out of gas after going through the Mavs and not receiving much of a break from the schedule, you can't truly expect to contend if things outside of injury control your fate -- championship teams usually have the ability to overcome fatigue and unfortunate scheduling.

    So if they didn't have what it took last year and they're only able to add Splitter and some lower-level talent as role-players, it's hard to imagine that'll be enough. Tim and Manu will be a year older; Tony's in a contract year (which could go either way depending on how they come out of the gates); Splitter's not guaranteed and will be a rookie; they're going to have to find a way to unload RJ, IMO, for something that just fits better and brings more to their team and system (even if it's a lesser talent that's just more suited to excel as a Spur); and they're going to have to hope for significant growth internally from their young guys: Blair, Hill, their first-rounder (should they keep it) and THG.

    So much just has to go right for them to find themselves back in the Finals. And though you could say that for most teams that strive to those ends, the Spurs' margin for error is almost as slim as it comes when you're talking about teams that truly aspire to be champion.

    The Spurs know it; and that's why their due diligence means more than "not skipping steps" these days.

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    Georgia Tech's Favors: Spurs are trying to get me
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    http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblog...techs-f-1.html

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    Cousins is a freshman. Very atheltic. His potential is the sky. And a cornerstone player for a franchise. David played 4 years in college. Cousins has only played 1. If he played 4, he would easily be the #1 noverall pick...everyone and their mother would fight over him. Trust me.
    I can see Cousins being a franchise player. Very big, very skilled, fairly athletic. But he's definitely a center in the league. No way he can keep up with the more mobile 4s. The problem with Cousins seems to be between his ears anyway.

    But he's not light footed, he isn't a big leaper, he isn't particularly fast, he doesn't have elite athleticism. He doesn't come close to Favors in any of those traits.

    And both are freshmen. Most elite projects are freshmen these days.

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    I was going to throw out that a NJ/SA trade would be one of the only trade scenarios I see that somewhat make sense a few days ago, but then I thought I should just let it rest and think on it.

    I am not sure if I would do the trade unless we could get a little more from NJ, but it at least seems more plausible than most ideas.

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