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I loved the characters and the relationships of the show more than the science and mystery of the island itself so I wasn't disappointed. I think for some, the island was the star but it obviously wasn't the case to the writers.
My problem with the finale was that I didn't feel it fit in with the rest of the show. I mean, we have six seasons of mythology, philosophy, and mystery, and the finale is "pull the cork, fight on the cliffs, and we were all dead this season." It was a satisfying ending as far as character development goes, but it didn't address the story of the island as much as I thought it would.
I loved the characters and the relationships of the show more than the science and mystery of the island itself so I wasn't disappointed. I think for some, the island was the star but it obviously wasn't the case to the writers.
I think the island being underwater was to show that it had no power in "The place where there is no NOW, HERE." The island's influence was not felt at all by the people there until they reconnected, since it seems their collective memories were erased.
If I recall correctly, "the incident" was a huge catalyst for Dharma Initiative stuff that we explored in the earlier seasons. I didn't really watch that season, but I'm pretty sure it was one of those time loop stories.
@ Mr. Peaboy: I won't try to preach, but every season had to deal with some kind of battle for a vulnerable/fragile balance. LOSTies vs Others, Island vs Widmore's ship, LOSTies vs LOSTies, Jacob/LOSTies vs MiB/manipulated forces...each time the world felt like it hanged in the balance "keep pushing the button or the world dies," "stop the ship or the world dies," "get back to the island or the world dies," "stop MiB or the world dies." The island was just the palette to paint the story of redemption the people found in themselves and with each other.
I kinda liked the ending. It was touching. There are a lot of questions still unanswered like the time traveling, and all of that still confuses me.
I always liked all the back stories and the character development, but I was disappointed that it ended up being Kate /Jack and Sawyer/Juliette together. I thought it was going to be the other way around. Jack and Kate tried it once, but it didn't work out.
I never bothered with Lost, but Fringe is awesome. John Noble is worth it himself.
having seen the first episode long ago, about 30 minutes of the summary episode and then the finale, i was pleased...and only a couple hours invested.
kate can look like she has some years on her, but she was smokin in that black dress!
I only watched part of the first episode and tuned in last night at about 10:10 or so and figured it out when the dude got up from his wheel chair and the dude sitting outside told hurley he wasn't going in. And then of course when the Party of Five guy saw his dad that did it. Good ending considering I didn't watch any of the past 6 seasons.
Well, looking back, it appears to be a clue as to the sideways flash. From the beginning of the season, we see that the island is dead like the the characters themselves.
I understand that view of it, but the island in the show wasn't a hotel or a bar or a penthouse in New York. It wasn't just a setting that allowed different personalities, characters, and life histories to interact. The island had this supposed amazing back story that was only partially explained. Again, I enjoyed the finale, but felt that throughout the series the writers kept teasing the audience with this notion of the island as a unique, magical place and then, in the last season copped out with the "it's the source of light in all of us" and "it's a cork keeping in evil" explanations.@ Mr. Peaboy: I won't try to preach, but every season had to deal with some kind of battle for a vulnerable/fragile balance. LOSTies vs Others, Island vs Widmore's ship, LOSTies vs LOSTies, Jacob/LOSTies vs MiB/manipulated forces...each time the world felt like it hanged in the balance "keep pushing the button or the world dies," "stop the ship or the world dies," "get back to the island or the world dies," "stop MiB or the world dies." The island was just the palette to paint the story of redemption the people found in themselves and with each other.
I mean, think about it - according to the show, the source of all life, light, rebirth, etc. has a physical, alterable presence on this planet. Also, evil apparently exists only in a material state that can be restrained. These are interesting concepts that were only revealed in this final season and I would have liked to see them developed a little more.
Gotta love The Onion's take:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/los...nsion-d,17485/
'Lost' Possibly Still Airing In Parallel Dimension, Desperate Fans Report
NEW YORK—Desperate fans of the recently concluded television series Lost are speculating that the program is continuing on in a parallel dimension somewhere, and that alternate versions of showrunners Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse are currently writing new episodes of the series. "It's very possible that a sideways world running concurrent to our own exists, and that a facsimile of myself is happy, fulfilled, and already gearing up for the season seven premiere of Lost," said 36-year-old Kevin Molinaro, who, along with more than 20 million other hopeless fans, has recently booked multiple roundtrip tickets from Los Angeles to Australia in hopes of traveling through a vortex in the space-time continuum. "I just have to find a way to get there. We all do." According to data from Google analytics, searches for "How to build/detonate/use a hydrogen bomb to open up a multidimensional wormhole" have increased 10 millionfold since the episode aired.
Not sure I agree with this, but alrighty!
Yea, believe me, I was pissed and kicking and ing around the last 3 weeks about the show ting the bed and ruining itself. But the ending made it all worth it for me, when I was totally convinced there was no way to make me forget about all the crazy set-ups and "empty" promises. In the end, I thought the unique, magical place was our own world - and in it there's a lot of that NEVER gets explained. I know that sounds like a total cop out, and I would've punched myself in the face if I saw myself commenting like this pre-Finale...but I really did find peace in the show's ending - the show that me and my friends theorized about at least an two hours a week over dinner, on chat, etc between Season 1-4. In a way, we all gotta find our way to let go of the mysteries because even though the producers kept us watching cuz of the crazy , the show was about flawed people trying to find purpose and meaning in their own lives, not why crazy happens on the island.
Word..that's what I got out of it and I didn't even watch the show.
Me neither. So basically they were in purgatory?
That's the way my non-watching mind saw it. People experienced a tramatic event and were linked together and in the end they all found their way home...with some dramatice twists and turns along the way...but in the end..they all found peace and isn't that what we are all, the majority of us, are hoping for?
I am just not happy with it. There was no way they were going to be able to please everyone, but to end the show like seasons 2-5 never existed is lame to me.
The story of the character's was great, I enjoyed the show for many other reasons than just the sci-fi . It just seems like a farce to create this crazy scenario with scientific anomaly's, time-travel, characters named after scientists and philosophers, etc.. just to have it all come down to "a magic light". I remember hearing the producers in an interview talk about how everything that was put in the show was put there for a reason, are you kidding me? Like how they explained why they put all of the specific books throughout the series in the re-cap episode, "All of the books were books that the writer's had read and liked" or something along those lines. Good to know Lindelof, thanks.
Pretty much everyone who was watching the show to see who Sawyer got to kiss this episode was happy, and everyone else who was intrigued by a show that pushed the boundaries, brought in sci-fi elements, and was damn awesome for around 4 seasons were ed because there was no way they would be able to tie in all the crazy they made to seem important. Like when Jacob told Kate, "It's only a line of chalk on a wall" GMAFB, if it's only a line of chalk on a wall, why make it seem like it was the most important mystery EVER. Why were there endless cliffhangers, and build ups? What were the numbers all about? Why had widmore be such a mysterious and important character just to have him shot and out of the story without ever even giving him a real purpose.
I knew the re-cap episode was going to highlight specific things that they wanted to be refreshed in the viewer's minds so they could tie in the story their way, but I didn't really expect to be slapped in the face. They pretty much defended the finale before it even started by saying this show was all about the characters. Was it? Or do we think it is because they prepped us for what was going to be a let-down unless we were viewing it they way they wanted us too.
a terrible ending to an otherwise great show. in the end it was all about jack. there was no catharsis for any of the other characters and maybe that is why we will never know how it is that sayed's true love turns out not to be claudia but shannon (blah !), or how the 160 old richard manages on the mainland, and how sawyer and kate just wait out the rest of their lives. and then that is the way sun and jin died after all, with no acknowledgement of their daughter in their last moments together.
it was disjointed, cliched, didactic and flat out dissapointing. an ending on the scale of st. elsewhere and seinfeld.
Sounds to me like I was better off not watching the series since the message in the end was quite simple and it seems to me like many wanted a complicated ending. I may just have to watch this on DVD to see why so many are upset over a simple message that was conveyed in an entertaining, twisting, fast forward & reverse kind of way.
I'm sorry you didn't enjoy it as much as I did. But this show has always been about Jack, even from the beginning.I'm very satisfied with how it all ended.
It's about losing those you love and finding them again in the afterlife, that's beautiful.
Watched it again. I think I've done a 180 on how I feel about it. It's still really ing sappy but the Jack/Ben/Locke parts are exceptional.
I'm sorry you didn't enjoy it as much as I did. But this show has always been about Jack, even from the beginning.
It's about losing those you love and finding them again in the afterlife, that's beautiful.
Great write up about the finale.
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watc...ther_life.html
I thought the ending was 'good'. There really was two arcs that needed closing, the characters themselves and the island (itself a major character in the plot). I thought the characters had their grand finale, full of emotion and incredibly well executed.
The closing of the island story, however, was relegated to an afterthought, and I thought that was disappointing.
This sums it up brilliantly:
The people happy with the finale (love story camp) can't believe the nerdrage from the sci-fi camp. The sci-fi camp can't believe that the love story camp is just sort of okay with "everything has always been magical... oh and FLocke is evil" as an way to wrap things up.
Really it's like this show couldn't be given an easier way to be written. You've already given yourself a super magical island that heals cancer, lets crippled people walk and has giant neighbor islands that can go unnoticed for over a season. That wasn't enough though, you introduce time travel, another plot device that can be used really however you want it to since there is no actual way people know it works. And yet... this is all you could come up with after building up for years?
They wrote themselves into a corner they didn't know how to get out of, so they last minute switched the emphasis of the show to this limboverse that didn't exist until now, went very subtle with the mythology, introduced a temple, a resurrecting pool and a light tunnel that creates smoke monsters if someone not named Jack or Desmond go check it out. Then they have people "FEEEEEEL IT" and remember about the island to stir up the emotions and it worked, it worked on me when it was happening and that's aggravating because these people weren't even separated until they created this alt verse and even then they never really felt like it. Throw in some flash backs and misty eyed actors and it's a cheap way to grab the viewers heartstrings. Mission accomplished on that front, mission failed on everything else.
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