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    Isn't opposing Israel a sign that I'm anti-terrorism? I'm just saying...

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    Why the would Israel deliberately fire on an American ship? That would be committing suicide, America is one of Israel's few allies in this world, it would be the equivalent of a British plane intentionally bombing an area inhabited by American soldiers during WWII.

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    Is that a response to me?
    No. I was briefly unsure who Mavs_man_41 was responding to.

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    George Galloway REGULATING

    so now you're a Palestinian? all you towelheads are the same in one way..your HATRED for a particular race of people

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    Because he has obnoxious opinions? GTFO. That's not terrorism. That's just being a jackass.

    What I said is not based off this thread. Ghazi called America a nation that supports terrorists yesterday.

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    Just so everyone knows, Ghazi openly hates America and thinks Iran is a better country. He even thinks Iran had a legitimate reason to invade the US embassy and take hostages. To quote him exactly, "We did what we had to do." Ghazi for all intensive purposes is an Iranian terrorist cell in the US. He doesn't consider himself an American, he is openly way more loyal to Iran and said that US should be thanking Iran because they needed Iran's help against Iraq. I'm not making any of this up.
    this is the 100% truth, i was there

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    Why the would Israel deliberately fire on an American ship?
    Cited at least twice upstream. It's the strongest argument against the conspiracy narrative.

    OTOH, answer me this: how could the IDF up so badly? They bombed a clearly marked US ship flying its colors in clear weather, then machine gunned the survivors. All this three hours after IDing the boat positively in the same general area. At a minimum, their actions were grotesquely negligent.

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    Cited at least twice upstream. It's the strongest argument against the conspiracy narrative.

    OTOH, answer me this: how could the IDF up so badly? They bombed a clearly marked US ship flying its colors in clear weather, then machine gunned the survivors. All this three hours after IDing the boat positively in the same general area. At a minimum, their actions were grotesquely negligent.

    Indeed they were, but it would make no sense to intentionally fire at an American ship when America is the only country that has your back. If Israel made enemies with America, they'd be up s creek without a paddle.

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    What I said is not based off this thread. Ghazi called America a nation that supports terrorists yesterday.
    However abhorrent, that's not terrorism either. It's an opinion. One that is supportable wrt Iran. Are you familiar with the MEK? (Pretty sure Ghazi meant Israel, tho.)
    Last edited by Winehole23; 05-24-2010 at 02:39 PM.

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    Indeed they were, but it would make no sense to intentionally fire at an American ship when America is the only country that has your back. If Israel made enemies with America, they'd be up s creek without a paddle.
    Especially when they were at war with all their neighbors...

    a war between Israel and the neighboring states of Egypt, Jordan, and Syria. The Arab states of Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Tunisia, Morocco and Algeria also contributed troops and arms.
    and some other countries too

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    Isn't opposing Israel a sign that I'm anti-terrorism? I'm just saying...
    Israel does questionable things, yes.

    but they have been driven this way because of crazy ing muslims.

    they have been constantly bombed, having had to deal with terrorists blowing civilians and local businesses up for decades.

    i don't blame them for being pissed off and not showing much compassion anymore.

    radical islam needs to be eradicated from planet earth.

    religion is a disease of man kind, a bronze age relic, and apparently the Quran says a lot of stupid, inciteful .

    It really does need to be exterminated from planet earth. NOT THE PEOPLE, but the RELIGION.

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    Sons I grew up in Israel. Crazy story, but a Palestinian blew up literally 5 minutes from where I lived.

    God damn I'm glad to be out.

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    Especially when they were at war with all their neighbors...



    and some other countries too

    And Israel owned the out of them, that's how pathetic rag head countries are. In 6 days, Israel captured the Suez peninsula, the West Bank and Gaza strip, while fighting 3 different countries.

    lol towel heads trying to fight real wars without bush league terrorist tactics

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    also, this is not ing new

    The West, or even the WORLD, has been at war with these ing muslims for CENTURIES.

    When Christian pilgrims during the Cruades tried to build new settlements in the region, back around the years 1300-1500 CE, they were REPEATEDLY told

    "Anyone who does not recognize the Prophet Muhammad is an infidel who MUST BE DESTROYED"

    MANY MANY TIMES Christian Knights, for instance, at the Battle of Malta, were told to die. They tried peaceful negotiations, and they were told there can BE NO NEGOTIATIONS WITH INFIDELS BECAUSE IT WAS THEIR DUTY TO KILL US

    and this was 600 ing years ago.

    here we are in 2001-2010 and WE ARE STILL ING BEING KILLED BY THAT RELIGION

    The world is sick and ing tired of muslims.

    That religion has to be erased and wiped from the earth.

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    That religion has to be erased and wiped from the earth.
    Fat chance.

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    it will happen one day. a long time from now, it will happen.

    Technology and governments will rise to a better level, and it will drag the population with it, kicking and screaming if it has to.


    All you have to do is provide children with better parents. A better educated populace with less stress levels, with a higher quality of life, technology providing wondrous methods for food, energy consumption, etc...

    will produce better parents. and in turn, better children, smarter and wiser at a younger age than the previous generation.


    or, you can do what Hitler did, and try to eradicate a people all at once, but that's a no no.

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    MiamiHeat dropping some cold pizza on Ghazi's camel riding ass.

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    I'm sure that is true. People like John Hagee are nutbags.
    What's sad is how many people follow and give money to this Rolex wearing, Dominion living nutbag.

    FROM THE DESK OF PASTOR JOHN HAGEE
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    John Hagee Ministries Weekly Update
    April 26, 2010
    (4/27/2010)


    Greetings to all of our Salt Covenant Partners and friends across America and around the world.
    First, I am delighted to tell you our JHM Rally and Prophecy Conference in Lancaster, Pennsylvania was a smashing success. The building was packed to the back wall in every service. The services began at 7:30 pm and people started lining up to get in at 4:30 pm.

    Those packed auditoriums for five different services proved to me the spiritual heart of America is very much alive. I believe we are now engaged in an information war for the soul of this nation.

    This Sunday morning I am going to begin a series of three sermons that are the most critical I have ever preached to the church or presented to America.

    The three sermons will be led:

    1) "Can America Survive the Death of the Dollar?"
    2) "Can America Survive a Nuclear Iran?"
    3) "Can America Survive the Rejection of Israel?"

    The book I have just completed writing will cover the major prophetic topics including the year, day and month 12/12/12. If you read Revelation 9:15 you will discover that God has selected a day and hour certain in which 1/3 of mankind will be killed...................................

    http://www.jhm.org/ME2/Sites/dirmod....A513339B3C08E2

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    it will happen one day. a long time from now, it will happen.

    Technology and governments will rise to a better level, and it will drag the population with it, kicking and screaming if it has to.


    All you have to do is provide children with better parents. A better educated populace with less stress levels, with a higher quality of life, technology providing wondrous methods for food, energy consumption, etc...

    will produce better parents. and in turn, better children, smarter and wiser at a younger age than the previous generation.
    I used to believe that, but religious organizations have too strong a hold on people (they promise the hereafter, while reason only promises the "here"), and public education is either too toothless to consistently teach people to think critically. Not to mention that there are some people who are just incapable of critical thought.

    As science more and more definitively challenges the literal interpretation of the Bible, literalists more and more seek to undermine the project of science -- they see it as a he-said-she-said argument, and they want to be the louder voice.

    Consider that science spends it's money on science and generally defends itself pro bono, in dry, boring, factual ways. On the other hand, many extreme branches of religions spend a fair amount of their money advocating against science using splashy, attention-grabbing stunts. People hire PR and advertising firms because PR and advertising works.

    All to say that I'm not even convinced reason/science is the dominant or emergent force in the world like it was, say, from 1930-1960. Religion is winning, and it's the bad kind of religion that brought us the Dark Ages.

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    Regardless of your stance on Israel, giving them an estimated amount over $100,000,000,000 in foreign aid is absurd.

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    Regardless of your stance on Israel, giving them an estimated amount over $100,000,000,000 in foreign aid is absurd.
    Not entirely. They are our one foothold in the Middle East. Trouble is our attempts to develop bigger, better footholds (libia, Iran, Lebanon, Iraq, Afghanistan) from which to disseminate US culture and interests seem to end in utter failure.

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    both sides are terrorists. The Mossad is basically a terrorist organization.

    IMHO this middle east conflict is just another conflict staged by the Annunaki, our reptilian alien creators from planet X

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    Iran and USA are allies

    Iran was enemies with Saddam's Iraq and the Taliban... USA wiped them out, as a result, Iran is stronger and is a regional superpower.

    Iran and USA both are also enemies of Israel. Israel causes USA so many problems, Israel causes Iran so many problems.

    This is why when Israel wanted to cross Iraqi air to bomb Iran the Americans denied them access.

    We are allies. Iran/USA

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    Iran and USA are allies

    Iran was enemies with Saddam's Iraq and the Taliban... USA wiped them out, as a result, Iran is stronger and is a regional superpower.

    Iran and USA both are also enemies of Israel. Israel causes USA so many problems, Israel causes Iran so many problems.

    This is why when Israel wanted to cross Iraqi air to bomb Iran the Americans denied them access.

    We are allies. Iran/USA
    Don't flatter yourself.

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