It was more him being a nut case. Unless Christian extremists brainwashed him into thinking bombing an OKC courthouse would further Christianity, it can't be compared to 9/11 at all.
Not true. There were people murdered by communism due to being Christians, Jews and from many small denominations.Originally Posted by Bukefal
It's true that a lot of people have been murdered in communism everywhere in the world, but they werent really murdered for atheism or christianism, but for other political communist issues.
Ghazi you are a disgrace to this family! Paying money for sexual favors is deplorable, you s !
P.S. Your mother found dried semen all over the tiles of your shower again, next time you will be cleaning that up!
haha cursing now ay? you little piece of . Embarassed? how, please explain. I think you are the one who is embarassing himself.
First of all, by normal persians, I meant, the ordinary people, the citizens of Iran, the civilians, the people who aren't associated with the extremist leaders.
And now for normal, of course there are normal Persians, I don't know how you can say such a thing, other than having hate towards Persian people. Every country has normal people, if you like them or dislike them, every nation has normal and not so normal peopleIt's like Im explaining to kindergarden
They were trying to kill as many people as they thought were enemies to Islam, or I guess "infidels".
is lakaluva one of those black guys who didn't live through the civil rights movement but still feels so disenfranchised that he converts to Islam?
The citizens of Iran just re-elected a bat crazy, anti-Semitic extremist who denies the Holocaust. They aren't any less anti-Semitic or normal than Arabs.haha cursing now ay? you little piece of . Embarassed? how, please explain. I think you are the one who is embarassing himself.
First of all, by normal persians, I meant, the ordinary people, the citizens of Iran, the civilians, the people who aren't associated with the extremist leaders.
And now for normal, of course there are normal Persians, I don't know how you can say such a thing, other than having hate towards Persian people. Every country has normal people, if you like them or dislike them, every nation has normal and not so normal people
Such an anti-Semite...
Well, they weren't trying to spread Aids with $250 handjobs, that is for sure.
But communism was kinda viewed in a religious point of view in that it incorporated politics, economics, and social issues. Communism isn't a religious, but being atheist is a huge part of it and in order to promote and progress communists beliefs, people were murdered and executed. Religion was a big obstacle whether it was christianity in eastern europe, islam in asia, and even judaism as well which is why so many Russian Jews migrated. Atheism was a big aspect of communism.
I'm not saying atheism is evil just like I don't think religion is as well. I know lots of good people from both sides of the isle. Unfortunately their is always a lunatic fringe including myself on both sides or in the name of nationalism as well.
luva is Pakistani IIRC..
Every candidate in Iran is similar. Its hard getting nominated if you don't follow the clerics point of view. The clerics run the country, not the president. They don't have much to choose from. Plus, there was a big controversey on Ahmadinejad getting re-elected since corruption was involved.
He likes people who support his agenda.Such an anti-Semite...
If you're trying to claim Ahmadinejad isn't an anti-Semite, you're even dumber than I thought. Anyone who denies the Holocaust is an anti-Semite. To quote him exactly, "They have created a myth today that they call the massacre of Jews and they consider it a principle above God, religions and the prophets,"
No way. I always thought he was black. Though him being pakistani certainly would explain the phobia.
I know, it was a big aspect of communism, part of one of the basic aspects. But, at least communism in the Balkans, the part I am close with of communism, people werent really murdered because of being religious or because of atheism. They were being murdered more because of treason, having different beliefs than the government, ties with western powers, for poltics etc..
But, then again former Yugoslavia was never so strict in communism as other countries like Albania, Soviet Union, China
The guy running against him wasn't as crazy as he was. Anyone who voted for or supports Ahmadinejad is a Holocaust denier. It's that simple.
I guess it can interpreted in alot of ways. I've come to view treason against the communist government or different views is like treason to their overall beliefs, almost like a religious belief. It doesn't mean I'm right. It's just how I come to view it.
Ok, but who do I classify? You don't seem to get what I meant in the first place, you don't seem to get in what context Ive said it. Yet, you are the one to classify all persians as not being normal, you are the one to classify americans as their judeo/christian way of life, you are the hypocrite.I had to ask you three times for a simple opinion. What you may call extremism, others may call normal. You see how I flipped that, kid. America and it's Judeo/Christian way of life has been more extreme on forcing their way of life on people more than anyone. Yet I'm sure you refer to them as "normal" too. You are a tool, and easily manipulated. Classifying people just because they don't have your beliefs is the lowest form of thinking, and the root to all hatred. Yet you call me the 4 year old.
The only thing Ive said was that the 'normal' Persians, the Civilians, the ordinary people, who do not have anything to do with politics or the leaders of Iran, that for them islam wasnt the best thing that ever happened to them and that they do not see themselves as brothers of arabs and that they are not nothing more than dogs as you called them.
Oh yeah, you also called them nothing more than dogs, so who is the one who is classifying and belittling and hating people again?
SO, please child, just stfu
I had to ask you three times for a simple opinion. What you may call extremism, others may call normal. You see how I flipped that, kid. America and it's Judeo/Christian way of life has been more extreme on forcing their way of life on people more than anyone. Yet I'm sure you refer to them as "normal" too. You are a tool, and easily manipulated. Classifying people just because they don't have your beliefs is the lowest form of thinking, and the root to all hatred. Yet you call me the 4 year old.
I call flying planes into buildings extremism. If you think it's normal then more power to you.
It doesn't really matter who the people vote for. The president is a figurehead. I guess it does matter in that sense since you don't want someone to represent your country in that fashion. He did deny the holocaust, but I'm not sure if he won his election clearly. It wouldn't surprise me if the clerics tampered in the election. An uprising started after the election since so many people thought he didn't win clearly.
Again, you have to also look at the city. Clerics run the country and they control most of the media there. They can easily sell their point of view without opposition. That said, the people are ready for a change, but they're not ready to die for it like the French Revolution or the American Revolution.
Roughly 50% of the population voted for him, which in my book means roughly 50% of Iran's population denies the Holocaust. A country where 50% of its population denies the Holocaust ever happened is anti-Semitic. Chances are the other half acknowledges it and is glad it happened.
I don't think we should really believe and assume he was elected and voted for in a fair way. As Hornets said, tampered.
Is luva really pakistani? And to think I made fun of Ghazi for being hairy
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