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Probably stay an extra year in high school...or perhaps revisit middle school.
so today in class the topic of college comes up and we go on about majors and minors
and ask my teacher that i want to take a minor in art and a major in biology since im getting into the dental field
and she said no take a business minor so when u have to deal with money in ure business and u know what ure doing and u dont to learn anything
but i wana learn and grow more into an artist too
what do u guys think about this and on what i should do
Probably stay an extra year in high school...or perhaps revisit middle school.
dam that was mean
why say that
That's one person. her. Do what you want.
yeah thats what i though
i mean
its just
what i want
and what i like
not what shes gona do
and then another girl i asked and she and the teacher
ure minor has to complement your major blah blah
When your practice partner embezzles every dime, flees to South America and leave you holding the bag that art minor's going to come in real handy doing prison tattoos. Don't forget that you'll have to give all the money to the one that calls you their prison .
haha yeah right lmao
learning the english language might do you some good also.
i know how to write
this is a forum chill
you could fool me.
Most teachers don't know a damn thing about general college majors or how life works outside of school. They simply know their major and general education certification. If you want to be a dentist or any other type of job where you need medical you need to drop the art minor and focus on getting all As and high MCATs. Major in chemistry or biology. I've had several student interns that went to medical school after college, those kids didn't mess around with minors. They were completely focused on getting into medical school. That is a reality you will face when you see your compe ion for medical school. You have your whole life for art but only a few (3 & 1/2) key years to get into medical school.
People who want to go to Dental School take the DAT, not the MCAT. Don't major in Business. It'll make it that much tougher to get in all your Science requirements. Take some Business classes if you're that worried about it. Your teacher is wrong. I didn't apply to Dental Schools but I'd imagine they'll require these courses
Biology (2-3 Intro Courses and 1-4 Upper Levels)
General Chemistry (2 Semesters)
Organic Chemistry (1-2 Semesters)
Physics (1-2 Semesters)
Math (Calculus and/or Stats)
English
That's just basic stuff too. Again I'm not positive on Dental School requirements but they'll be similar to that.
whatevers easiest for you.
College shouldn't just be about what you want for a career. It should also be about taking the opportunity to study things that are of interest to you. You'll rarely have another opportunity like that again.
Additionally, med schools tend to like diversity. Most pre-meds come in with Bio and chemistry or math, because they are easier. Stretching yourself to experience something else, particularly in the liberal arts makes you stand out as a more well-rounded candidate.
And as for business - you can pick up some classes and get what you need. It's pretty rare that doctors or dentists do their own books or run their offices. That is what office coordinators and accountants are for.
not something in liberal arts
Meet your requirements for dental school and then major and minor in whatever you want. It is usually easier to pick a science field because of all the hours you already have in those fields, but it is by no means a requirement. I would even think that some sort of artistic slant would be helpful if you plan to do any sort of cosmetic dentistry.
I do not know about dental schools, but medical schools and residencies include practice management courses in their curriculum. You can also take a couple of general business courses as electives without an actual minor.
I have a science major and a humanities minor, and I liked the diversity of study. It has also worked well when potential employers see it, and I would hope it would do the same for applying to dental school.
First off, and uncomfortable reality:
"u" should probably make an effort to type correctly with proper punctuation and spelling.
That may sound mean, but bad writing habits will hurt you both in college and when you are looking for a job. Such short cuts like passing on the shift key for capitalization and "u" for "you" work for texting on a cell phone, but really really make you look like an immature slob.
This is simply reality, and I am not trying to be mean. It is the digital equivalent of trying to make a first impression in baggy pants, gold chains, and a hat on sideways.
For good or bad, people form impressions like this, and you must be aware of this.
That said, you should strongly consider taking business as a minor. Better would be math, especially if you are going for biology. My wife is going for her biology degree and that requires a LOT of math. Algebra, calculus, statistics, etc.
Art is something you can generally learn on your own. If art is important to you, then it will be in the future, and you have an entire lifetime to grow and develop. Getting a good job will alloow you the time and luxury to do that.
You can always take a few art classes after you land a good job a few years down the road.
The only person I have ever met that has made use of an education in art was a gal who owned her own tattoo shop. She is a brilliant artist, but doesn't have the business education to really make her shop run well, and that limits her income.
With the amount of work you'll be doing in labs and projects, you won't have time for Art or Business minors. Be smart, just focus on getting good grades and finding internships/chances to see what the field is like.
If you have any free time, then you can hang out with the art kids and let them teach you stuff. But sitting in class for it as part of your declared curriculum when you're going to be so busy is not shooting yourself in the foot. Use your elective courses to study Art/Business, and do everything you can to see which classes overlap on general education requirements and take those so you'll have more time to study Art/Business.
Not trying to sound like a , I understand you don't know how stuff works yet and that's why you ask for advice.
PS: Since you plan on going onto furter school after undergraduate, don't worry about what school you are accepted to or studying at for undergraduate. The most important thing is learning your trade at the best school AFTER undergraduate, which you can get into by having the best grades, test scores, field related work experience...you can do that anywhere, just gotta stay driven.
School is always going to be there, especially if you make enough money off of your first go round with school. I don't see the rush with "ending" one's school career at such an early age. Get the skills out of the way that will make you money so you don't have to worry about that. After this, you can go to college any time you damn well please to study art. This way you won't even have to demote your "passion" to minor status you can get an entire bachelor's in Art.
I am about to start my MBA next week. It is in something that I really enjoy that can also make me money. I do, however, plan on retiring and becoming a history professor. My plan is to finish this degree, give myself about a 5 year break from school, then start working on a history degree because I REALLY enjoy that. I can take my time with it and really savor the experience because I already have a career. The opposite of such a plan looks like this: An old friend of mine was/is incredibly intelligent, and had a 3.85 GPA in a dual degree program for history and philosophy. She is an escrow officer. YAY! Point being, use your degree to give yourself a leg up right at first. College is wasted on the young and more people should take a life long view of it.
Also, one more piece of advice for OP. Your actions, not your words define you. If you decided to convey your messages as a jackass, you are a jackass. This is true no matter how many times you say "I know how to type (or speak, etc.)."
Last edited by Drachen; 05-26-2010 at 08:27 AM.
I don't know that these "business" classes will be as big of a help as your teacher thinks. I have my own business now and don't remember anything from the economics, accounting, and finance classes I took in undergrad. After three years of post-graduate work and three years of working to save money for my own business, those undergraduate classes were distant memories by the time I hung my own shingle.
My advice, talk to people in the field of dentistry and see what courses they recommend, not only to prepare for post-graduate work, but also to prepare you for any entrance examinations you may have to take for your field of study.
I don't completely disagree with you, and I definitely agree that college is wasted on the young. That comes from working at a university where the average age is 27, because of returning students. Returning students typically take their studies more seriously and find them more enriching.
And while education doesn't necessarily have to end, it often does. Work takes over a big chunk of life, finances get stretched, a lot of people have kids or outside the home commitments that preclude returning to school in such a way that it can be as fulfilling as when you are young and more free of responsibilities.
And while it's been nearly 3 years since I worked with students, I did that for over 5 years. Students who find a way to take the classes that are interesting to them in addition to their career oriented classes tend to perform better and get more out of their college experience.
As for usefulness, well . . . I'll just sign off as - easjer, BA in History, currently working in business administration and planning to take Accounting I in the fall. . . but God, I enjoyed that degree.
I may yet go back. To advance much further here, I'll need a masters degree. They would prefer it in Business, but I'd rather slit my wrists. One in history would be acceptable. But time and money . . . It's not in the immediate future for me.
eh this has a troll smell to it, but I can see what a teacher would be getting at in that being a doctor is basically being a business owner.
It would be nice if doctors would focus a little more on customer service. Many of them feel like they are doing the patient the favor by giving them a quick 5 minute lookover, a prescription scribbled in old Egyptian style and then taking their $15-20 co-pay.
....and then the staff out front is usually worse...
My wife's a Biochemistry Professor.
I am going to make this assumption about you:
You want to go to dental school either because your father/mother is a doctor or a dentist AND you already KNOW you do not have the grades/ap ude to get into medical school. Dentists, after all, are people who couldn't get into medical school (generalizing, but pretty accurate).
SO - since you have yet to take Chem 101/102, much less Organic/Biochem and Anatomy & Physiology etc.... at the college level, AND you aren't a bang up science student (by that I mean A's in AP classes) in the first place - trust me, you aren't going to get out of College with a Biology or Chemistry degree.
Save yourself the wasted semester or two, and just enroll now knowing you're getting an Art Education degree.
Take a pho 181 course. They are fun, and aren't too academic. If you like it/have talent, minor in it, because you'll get the foundation necessary to make a part-time to full-time career out of it. Even in down times, people still pay big bucks for photography for weddings, engagements, graduations, family portraits, pregnancies... It's an expensive minor, for sure, but every thing you purchase, you can continue to use years later if it's taken care of. This is a rare quality for any collegiate focus.
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