Refs Keeping Suns in the series

[Shastafarian]

Say "please" and I'll answer it. Otherwise, your mother's quim is waiting.

Do you have children to please?

[Giuseppe]

I lied, now go back and mount your mother.

ha, ha.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Lakers fans are lame, for every 1 bad call/non call on the Lakers there 3 bad calls/non calls on the Sons.

If the Suns are the "sons", does that make the Spurs the "grandsons"?

[TheMACHINE]

If the Suns are the "sons", does that make the Spurs the "grandsons"?

nah...it just makes the Spurs your .

[JamStone]

That's defensive versatility. That they certainly have.

Offensive versatility they don't have. Players like Farmar or Brown are non-factors. Their offense is post-play and Kobe (who also prefers to go to the post these days).

There's a reason the Lakers were one of the best defensive teams in the league this season but only average offensively.

It's not just defensive versatility. It's also offensive versatility.

When your two big men can run the floor well like Gasol and Odom, and the four man actually can play point on offense and lead the break, that's versatility. Just because Farmar and Brown aren't great players, it doesn't mean they are non-factors. They still played significant minutes. And their quickness was a factor in game so that their second unit could be more uptempo. That's versatility. Farmar-Brown-Kobe-Odom-Gasol and Farmar-Brown-Artest-Odom-Gasol were the fourth and fifth most used line-ups for the Lakers during the course of the season. Those were the two most used line-ups with at least two bench players. That's versatility in style of play, including offense.

The Lakers starting unit is structured to mostly play in a half court set. Their second unit offers a change of pace. The personnel on the Lakers roster allows for versatility to play different styles.

[da_suns_fan]

In LA: FT: Suns 58, Lakers 56
(Suns even get the advantage in LA even though the Lakers destroyed them in the paint and Amar'e was shooting jumpshots in the first two games)

In Phoenix: FT: Suns 74, Lakers 33
(Enormous disparity here)

The Lakers have shot a better FG% in every game.

58% vs 49%
58% vs 49%
48% vs 46%
49% vs 48%

Luckily for the Lakers they own the Suns on their home floor so it won't matter. Look for the Lakers to put the hammer down on the Suns in game five.

Phil Jackson: "It seemed every time we went near them, they fell down."

If you had specific fouls you were unhappy with, I'd listen. Like most people, you have no idea what you are talking about with respect to data correlations.

With data from completely uncontrolled, non-randomized, non-repeatable test cases, you deduce that the referees are favoring the Suns the last two games when all you REALLY have is "noise".

Let me be clear: You dont have the slightest clue what you are talking about.

[poop]

stupid idiot thread, the refs/league/stern would NEVER go against the LA Lakers. there is no incentive to.

ROFL why would the nba want to send the phoenix suns to the Finals over the Lakers??

especially when it would be a Lakers- Celtics Finals??

hahaha ing idiot laker fan.

[sook]

LOL you ing clown.

[crc21209]

In LA: FT: Suns 58, Lakers 56
(Suns even get the advantage in LA even though the Lakers destroyed them in the paint and Amar'e was shooting jumpshots in the first two games)

In Phoenix: FT: Suns 74, Lakers 33
(Enormous disparity here)

The Lakers have shot a better FG% in every game.

58% vs 49%
58% vs 49%
48% vs 46%
49% vs 48%

Luckily for the Lakers they own the Suns on their home floor so it won't matter. Look for the Lakers to put the hammer down on the Suns in game five.

Phil Jackson: "It seemed every time we went near them, they fell down."

....tell your Boi's Ron-Ron and Lamar to take it to the rack instead of chucking up 3-ptrs then. The Lakers took 30 3's in Game 3 and 28 in Game 4......pathetic.

[TJastal]

If you had specific fouls you were unhappy with, I'd listen. Like most people, you have no idea what you are talking about with respect to data correlations.

With data from completely uncontrolled, non-randomized, non-repeatable test cases, you deduce that the referees are favoring the Suns the last two games when all you REALLY have is "noise".

Let me be clear: You dont have the slightest clue what you are talking about.

Laker fans never offer specific examples of calls they feel they were wronged on, because that would be too much work..., that and they're lazy and 99.9% of the time usually those calls don't even exists anyway.

Free throw disparity doesn't mean , in almost every case it just means the other team is taking the ball to the basket more (which the suns have) and you're not giving them easy baskets in the paint. If the lakers want to shoot more free throws I suggest they start driving the ball to the basket instead of settling for jumpshots and force the suns to foul (but that would encompass work, and much like their fans they are too lazy).

[namlook]

parity doesn't mean , in almost every case it just means the other team is taking the ball to the basket more (which the suns have)

You shouldn't comment unless you have actually watched the games and you know what you are talking about. In games 1 and 2 the Lakers pounded the ball in the paint, were much more aggressive towards the basket than the Suns and the Suns still received more FTs. That's the whole point.

No reasonable person has an issue with the Suns shooting more FTs on their home floor where they have been more aggressive, but in LA they were NOT the aggressors at all.

[namlook]

....tell your Boi's Ron-Ron and Lamar to take it to the rack instead of chucking up 3-ptrs then. The Lakers took 30 3's in Game 3 and 28 in Game 4......pathetic.

Again your argument is based on a fallacy that more 3 pointers means less calls because it fails to take into account what the other team did.

In game 4 the Lakers took 28 threes and were rewarded with 13 FTs.

The Suns took 30 Freaking threes and were rewarded with 32 FTs.

So clearly more threes does not equal less calls. Got it? Good.

Know what the you are talking about so you don't look so foolish next time.

[Shastafarian]

Know what the you are talking about so you don't look so foolish next time.

[namlook]

Were you laughing when the Spurs who Popovich predicted would win a championship were castrated of their manhood 4-0 by the Suns?

[Fpoonsie]

Were you laughing when the Spurs who Popovich predicted would win a championship were castrated of their manhood 4-0 by the Suns?

Never happened. He suggested they were GOOD enough, but didn't predict anything.

Try again.

[Shastafarian]

Were you laughing when the Spurs who Popovich predicted would win a championship were castrated of their manhood 4-0 by the Suns?

Never happened. He suggested they were GOOD enough, but didn't predict anything.

Try again.

I also didn't cry like a little when they lost. Your team hasn't even lost the series and you're making "WHAAAAAAAAAAAA" threads.

[namlook]

Never happened. He suggested they were GOOD enough, but didn't predict anything.

Try again.

He said with the players we have now, if I we don't win I should be fired. That's a prediction unless you are too dense to read between the lines.

[Shastafarian]

He said with the players we have now, if I we don't win I should be fired. That's a prediction unless you are too dense to read between the lines.

You're not a very bright person are you?

[namlook]

I also didn't cry like a little when they lost. Your team hasn't even lost the series and you're making "WHAAAAAAAAAAAA" threads.

My comments are an observation. The Lakers won't lose this series no matter what the refs do. The refs will not decide this series. Period. Crying is when you blame the refs for losing. I don't blame the refs for anything.

[Shastafarian]

My comments are an observation. The Lakers won't lose this series no matter what the refs do. The refs will not decide this series. Period. Crying is when you blame the refs for losing a series.

You're not a very bright person are you?

[namlook]

I'm not a very bright person, am I?

Sounds like a good question for Pop. He's the one who felt he had the talent to win then his team played like dogs in getting swept out of the playoffs.

[Fpoonsie]

He said with the players we have now, if I we don't win I should be fired. That's a prediction unless you are too dense to read between the lines.

Wow.

You're not very good at this. You should prolly add "logical thinking" and his troll, "deductive reasoning", to your ignore list.

[namlook]

Wow.

You're not very good at this. You should prolly add "logical thinking" and his troll, "deductive reasoning", to your ignore list.

You should probably add "denser than a block of granite" to your profile.

[Shastafarian]

Sounds like a good question for Pop. He's the one who felt he had the talent to win then his team played like dogs in getting swept out of the playoffs.

"I'm not a very bright person, am I?" is a good question for Pop? Keep trying. You'll get the hang of this eventually.

[Shastafarian]

You should probably add "denser than a block of granite" to your profile.

Why not go for "black hole"? Shoot for the stars little guy.