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  1. #126
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    "I'm not a very bright person, am I?" is a good question for Pop? Keep trying. You'll get the hang of this eventually.
    It is a good question for Pop. He felt he had a championship caliber team. He couldn't have been more wrong. When is Pop getting fired? Didn't he say he should be fired if they don't win. We are waiting...

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    Why not go for "black hole"? Shoot for the stars little guy.
    The black hole is the space between your ears. You will eventually learn that in your classes for the developmentally disabled.

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    It is a good question for Pop. He felt he had a championship caliber team. He couldn't have been more wrong. When is Pop getting fired? Didn't he say he should be fired if they don't win. We are waiting...
    He didn't get it.

    The black hole is the space between your ears. You will eventually learn that in your classes for the developmentally disabled.
    Oh snap! Sick burn.

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    Lol namlook complaining about officiating.

    Lol ignore lists.

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    Lol namlook complaining about officiating.

    Lol ignore lists.
    I have a little bet with myself how long I'll last before I make the list.

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    It is a good question for Pop. He felt he had a championship caliber team. He couldn't have been more wrong. When is Pop getting fired? Didn't he say he should be fired if they don't win. We are waiting...
    Wow, you are more developmentally challenged than I thought. Your responses are starting to make no sense at all. You aren't even contextually on point now. Time to stop the head banging and put your plastic helmet back on.

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    Wow, you are more developmentally challenged than I thought. Your responses are starting to make no sense at all now.
    The "he" in my post was you big guy. I can type slower if you like.

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    namlook is the biggest got on this site. "Oh the other team shot for free throws, the refs like them more ."

    When the Lakers bigs are slow to rotate, the other team is gonna end up shooting more free throws. Plain and simple. It's not such a hard concept.

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    namlook is the biggest got on this site. "Oh the other team shot for free throws, the refs like them more ."

    When the Lakers bigs are slow to rotate, the other team is gonna end up shooting more free throws. Plain and simple. It's not such a hard concept.
    You should troll his sorry ass under Goran Dragic.

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    namlook is the biggest got on this site.
    He's up there but is by no means the biggest.

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    there hasn't been a bigger disperity in freethrows in all the playoffs. open your eyes people anyone watching the game could have told who the refs were favoring. they got away with hacks and the lakers got called for touch fouls. the fact that they still got two more freethrows at our homecourt is pathetic. its funny how people using the "lakers werent aggressive enough" argument, dude are u effin kidding me every time gasol gets the ball nash and dragic are allowed to come over and smack his hands. ya 50 more freethrows in total and on average 33 per game for the suns and 22 per game for the lakers.

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    there hasn't been a bigger disperity in freethrows in all the playoffs. open your eyes people anyone watching the game could have told who the refs were favoring. they got away with hacks and the lakers got called for touch fouls. the fact that they still got two more freethrows at our homecourt is pathetic. its funny how people using the "lakers werent aggressive enough" argument, dude are u effin kidding me every time gasol gets the ball nash and dragic are allowed to come over and smack his hands. ya 50 more freethrows in total and on average 33 per game for the suns and 22 per game for the lakers.
    Suns just doing their thang.

    Quit hatin'.

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    Can Lakerfan point out a specific foul that shouldn't have been called. From what I saw, every foul they called fell under the rules of a foul, whether or not it was ticky tacky.

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    He's up there but is by no means the biggest.

    True. I'm forgetting about ducks.

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    the fact that they still got two more freethrows at our homecourt is pathetic.

    Yup, if the road team gets more free throws, the refs obviously screwed something up, the home team should get more calls regardless.

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    Zone D just doin their thang

    LA Games 1 + 2: 81-133 2FG, 15-33 3FG, 58 FTA.
    LA Games 3 + 4: 69-118 2FG, 18-60 3FG, 33 FTA.

    Forcing LA into more outside shots. I don't know how many times LA needs to be told Zone D usually = less FTs for the other team

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    Namlook

    For the last time, you can't gauge much of anything from a simple stat as # of free throws attempts. Like I said before, if team A is playing twice as aggressive on defense (as the lakers were in game 1) and the number of personal fouls called is practically even (actually favored lakers 23-21) that's a huge advantage. There's where the true advantage is, in possessions gained by the # of turnovers created and personal fouls which lead to foul trouble and bonus situations, not ing free throws.

    In Game 1 lakers shot 10 less free throws than the suns because the lakers didn't allow easy baskets in the paint. Suns' hardly contested anything in the paint... result of this was lakers' 58% shooting and breeze to a 128-107 victory. And of course the Vujavic bonehead foul on Barbosa shooting a 3.. skewed the FT numbers even furthur in that game.

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    The intentional fouls from LA at the end also skewed FT's. You're right, there are just simply too many variables to use FT's as the sole gauge of officiating.

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    there hasn't been a bigger disperity in freethrows in all the playoffs. open your eyes people anyone watching the game could have told who the refs were favoring. they got away with hacks and the lakers got called for touch fouls. the fact that they still got two more freethrows at our homecourt is pathetic. its funny how people using the "lakers werent aggressive enough" argument, dude are u effin kidding me every time gasol gets the ball nash and dragic are allowed to come over and smack his hands. ya 50 more freethrows in total and on average 33 per game for the suns and 22 per game for the lakers.
    Yet another dense laker fan offering no credible evidence just ing in general about "free throws"

    Seriously guys, this is getting lame even for your standards.

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    Can Lakerfan point out a specific foul that shouldn't have been called. From what I saw, every foul they called fell under the rules of a foul, whether or not it was ticky tacky.
    The problem with this line of thinking is that specific officiating crew was only calling the ticky tack fouls against one team.

    Not to say the Phoenix bench didn't step up, as they did. But the free throw disparity the last two games is basically indefensible no matter how you slice it.

    And you can bet your house on Phoenix not seeing a +35 FT advantage the next two games. Let's see how the Suns fare without the cushion.

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    The funny thing is that Stern gave the Lakers 4 days off, and it still ended up being 2-2 for the moment

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    The problem with this line of thinking is that specific officiating crew was only calling the ticky tack fouls against one team.

    Not to say the Phoenix bench didn't step up, as they did. But the free throw disparity the last two games is basically indefensible no matter how you slice it.

    And you can bet your house on Phoenix not seeing a +35 FT advantage the next two games. Let's see how the Suns fare without the cushion.
    That's at least a sensible, logical argument. Lets say though LA gets a slight edge with foul calls when they're back at staples, it evens out because the home team is getting the calls all the time, so in that sense it is consistency. While I think it's dumb that Stern can't find refs who are capable of not being affected by a crowd, that's just they way it is.

    As far as the FT disparity, the way I can defend it is the fact Amare is too quick and too strong for anyone on LA to guard. This is probably the closest Amare is to 2005 form when he got to the FT line at will.

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    The problem with this line of thinking is that specific officiating crew was only calling the ticky tack fouls against one team.

    Not to say the Phoenix bench didn't step up, as they did. But the free throw disparity the last two games is basically indefensible no matter how you slice it.

    And you can bet your house on Phoenix not seeing a +35 FT advantage the next two games. Let's see how the Suns fare without the cushion.
    21_Blessings, quit ing crying about free throws already.

    In game 4 Stoudemire took the ball to the basket more than the entire laker team... of course the suns are going to shoot more free throws.

    Lakers obviously think they can jumpshoot their way to victory.. problem with that is if the shots aren't falling and your not getting to the line your going to lose. End of story.

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    Game 5 Lakers will get the lion's share of the calls and the Suns will simply not enjoy a free throw advantage anywhere near what they saw in Games 3 and 4.

    And they will lose. Badly. Series could go 7 games, but the refs won't allow the Suns to come close on the road the same way they won't allow the Lakers to either.

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    As far as the FT disparity, the way I can defend it is the fact Amare is too quick and too strong for anyone on LA to guard. This is probably the closest Amare is to 2005 form when he got to the FT line at will.
    Amare earned some free throws; probably didn't deserve 18 like in game 3 but he was aggressive. Kobe would have had 12+ FTA last night had he been wearing a Suns uni. The same call Nash was getting 22ft from the basket Kobe wasn't getting from the mid-post.

    Then you look at the fact that Dan Crawford (Kobe embarrassed his ass through the media back in the day) and Ken Mauer (straight up criminal with a body of work that makes Donaghy look clean) were assigned then it all makes sense.

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