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Pondexter
James
Ebanks
Robinson
do you have the list with all the athletic tests? could you post it? thanks!
Pondexter
James
Ebanks
Robinson
Do you have someone in mind, or just in general think that a big man would be a better selection than the SF/gaurds that would be left?
I liked Ebanks during the NCAA tournament, and it seems to me his at ude problems may be overblown, but his lack of jump-shooting prowess hurts. Pondexter also probably doesn't have reliable NBA 3-pt range. Robinson reminds me of another Darius Miles. So I would probably say James of those four, but haven't seen much of him (or Pondexter for that matter).
I say this cause if there is a run on sf's then a couple of bigs should fall in the process and may be rated higher than the remaining sf's on the board for the spurs and another big will be needed (with or without splitter). Sanders, Orton, and Alabi are the 3 that could be had at #20. Sanders would my top choice between these 3 cause of his defensive skills and his 7'5 wingspan would be greatly appreciated here in SA .
Here are the guys in the combine. It is on ESPN insider, but it is a little tough to read it like this.
NBA DRAFT COMBINE MEASUREMENTS
Player - No step vert - Max vert - Bench press (185 lbs) - Lane agility - 3/4 court sprint
Solomon Alabi 22.5 26.0 10 13.2 3.68
Cole Aldrich 23.0 28.0 10 11.48 3.35
Aminu, Al-Farouq 27.0 33.5 13 11.29 3.3
James Anderson 30.0 35.5 14 11.86 3.19
Luke Babbitt 29.5 37.5 15 10.98 3.4
Eric Bledsoe -N-a -N-a 9 -N-a -N-a
Trevor Booker 31.0 36.0 22 11.15 3.1
Craig Brackins 26.0 35.0 6 11.65 3.39
Avery Bradley 31.5 37.5 2 11.47 3.14
Derrick Caracter 25.0 30.5 22 12.78 3.61
Sherron Collins 27.5 33.0 -N-a 12.31 3.24
DeMarcus Cousins 23.5 27.5 -N-a 11.4 3.55
Jordan Crawford 31.5 34.5 7 11.03 3.37
Ed Davis 31.0 36.0 -N-a 11.7 3.21
Devin Ebanks 23.5 32.0 6 11.69 3.44
Derrick Favors 31.5 35.5 14 11.74 3.25
Keith Gallon 23.5 28.5 14 13.44 3.7
Charles Garcia 24.5 30.5 2 11.65 3.23
Paul George -N-a -N-a 4 -N-a -N-a
Luke Harangody 24.0 28.5 23 11.83 3.41
Manny Harris -N-a -N-a 11 -N-a -N-a
Lazar Hayward 31.0 36.0 15 10.87 3.31
Gordon Hayward 30.5 34.5 10 11.73 3.22
Xavier Henry 28.5 36.5 8 11.1 3.18
Darington Hobson 29.0 34.0 -N-a 11.68 3.25
James, Damion 29.0 33.0 13 10.89 3.2
Armon Johnson 31.5 38.5 18 11.25 3.19
Wesley Johnson 32.0 37.0 16 11.43 3.14
Dominique Jones 26.0 32.5 19 10.88 3.31
Jerome Jordan -N-a -N-a -N-a -N-a -N-a
Sylven Landesberg 28.0 32.0 8 11.59 3.36
Gani Lawal 27.0 31.5 20 11.61 3.24
Greg Monroe 25.0 29.0 15 12.1 3.35
Daniel Orton 24.0 30.5 13 12.32 3.39
Artsiom Parakhouski 25.5 26.5 16 12.07 3.33
Patrick Patterson 28.5 33.5 17 11.14 3.25
Dexter Pittman -N-a -N-a -N-a -N-a -N-a
Andy Rautins 23.5 30.5 8 11.27 3.49
Ryan Richards 25.0 28.5 4 11.33 3.37
Stanley Robinson -N-a 37.5 6 11.65 3.23
Larry Sanders 25.5 28.0 7 12.49 3.27
Jon Scheyer -N-a -N-a -N-a -N-a -N-a
Lance Stephenson 27.0 33.0 10 11.39 3.38
Mikhail Torrance 23.0 32.0 8 11.43 3.17
Evan Turner 27.5 34.5 9 11.06 3.27
Ekpe Udoh 31.0 33.5 10 11.15 3.29
Jarvis Varnado 29.5 32.5 3 11.61 3.37
Greivis Vasquez -N-a -N-a -N-a -N-a -N-a
John Wall 30.0 39.0 -N-a 10.84 3.14
Willie Warren 23.0 31.5 10 11.21 3.5
Terrico White 31.0 40.0 10 11.38 3.15
Hassan Whiteside 27.0 31.5 12 11.83 3.54
in some other posts it has been mentioned, that many of our discussed options will be gone before #20.
meanwhile I'm pretty sure it will be like this. unfortunately it seems as if it's the Spurs target SF group that moves up fastest.
I think it's like that:
to get a shot at either Henry or Paul we would need the #12 pick from Grizzlies.
(probably on the market)
to get a shot at either Hayward or Babbitt we will need the #16 pick from Wolves. (for sure on the market)
at #20 we can likely choose from Pondexter, James, Ebanks, Robinson.
the question will be, if a pick from another pool doesn't deliver a better talent, even if he isn't a SF. Anderson, D. Jones, Sanders, Bradley, Bledsoe, E.Williams, Seraphin.
btw. if the Spurs can't get a SF, I see a good chance they go with Seraphin, because he seems like the only good stash option and to keep him in Europe for two years and bring him in when Dice (and Tim?) are retired and Blair and Splitter have established themself.
IMO, trading down is a better solution.
Drafting a guard at #20 would be a waste. Unless Spurs do something unexpected like trading Parker or Hill, this player would be caught in a log jam for years. On the big man front, only Sanders seems interesting. I'm not a fan drafting and stashing Séraphin with a that high pick.
If Pondexter has really missed the combine because of an injury and not because of a promise, it has hurt his draft stock. He should be available very late in the first round pick. Trading down to get Pondexter and something else would be nice. And because of the rookie salary scale, Spurs would also save some money by doing so.
trading down with Memphis for #25 and #28 is definitely an option, as reports have told that Grizzlies are willing to talk about any of their 3 picks.
what about draft Pondexter at #25 and pick and stash Seraphin with #28?
Ponderxters stock has been hurt for the mocks. not sure if teams see that either. they of course do the same tests and measurements in their private work outs. so they have the comparison. mocks don't have it and they also have a tendency to take no news as bad news about a player and cool down on them.
There are a lot of possibilities with trading down. It could be for a lower pick and another pick in this draft, a future pick, cash or even a player with a low salary.
You scenario of #25 + #28 for #20 is a possibility. Memphis could draft a guard they really like at #20. I'm not sure that Séraphin will be there at #28. IMO, there is a strong chance Thunder pick him at #26. Thunder have a lot of young players under contract and they also have #21. drafting and stashing a player with their second first round pick makes a lot of sense for them.
James Anderson it is.
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