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    If Barbosa deserves his current contract, Amare sure as deserves a max contract.
    He doesn't though. Why make another mistake and give Amare all that money for however many years he wants?

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    He averaged 6 rebounds a game this series and 5.5 a game against Portland. Clearly when he has tall guys to contend with, he doesn't rebound. He's not worth a max deal. Maybe you should hope that Nash can convince Dirk to leave Dallas.

    He'd rebound if he played with a real center. Post AS break he averaged double figure rebounding with Lopez playing next to him.

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    You've spent this entire thread scapegoating Amare for why the Suns lost. I'm assuming everyone else played well in your book since all you seem to talk about is Amare. It's almost gay your obsession with him.

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    Houston had several nice options in line to make a sign-n-trade run for Bosh. Then Bosh went and left them off his "preferred destination" list. My guess is they get back into things for Amare, who'd been linked their the last two trade deadlines (though not as strongly as to other destinations).

    Houston can offer Hill, their 2010 1st (top-20) and one of the NY 1sts for Amare. Filler might be needed to make salaries work, since the Rockets aren't under the CAP. Jeffries might need to be thrown in, at which point, maybe another 1st is added.

    Suns get a young PF and 1sts, Houston gets to run out a rotation of Brooks, Martin, Ariza, Amare, Ming, Lowry, Budinger, Battier, Hayes, Scola.

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    Houston can offer Hill, their 2010 1st (top-20) and one of the NY 1sts for Amare.

    That trade would royally suck. It's ridiculous how high the standards people hold Amare to are. Whenever the Suns lose, it somehow has to do with him not grabbing enough rebounds. It has nothing to do with the atrocious SG and SF defense, or how much barbosa and hill suck, Amare not grabbing more rebounds is the root of all evil.

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    You've spent this entire thread scapegoating Amare for why the Suns lost.
    I have? Where did I say he's to blame for the loss?
    I'm assuming everyone else played well in your book since all you seem to talk about is Amare. It's almost gay your obsession with him.
    All I talk about is Amare? You do need to go get wasted. Check out the game thread. I basically only rip on Barbosa. I'm not talking about Barbosa now because he's not up for a new (max) contract.

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    That trade would royally suck. It's ridiculous how high the standards people hold Amare to are. Whenever the Suns lose, it somehow has to do with him not grabbing enough rebounds. It has nothing to do with the atrocious SG and SF defense, or how much barbosa and hill suck, Amare not grabbing more rebounds is the root of all evil.
    You used to be Amare's biggest critic a year ago--what happened?

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    That trade would royally suck. It's ridiculous how high the standards people hold Amare to are. Whenever the Suns lose, it somehow has to do with him not grabbing enough rebounds. It has nothing to do with the atrocious SG and SF defense, or how much barbosa and hill suck, Amare not grabbing more rebounds is the root of all evil.
    Scola and a 1st or two is also possible, but Scola is a FA and would assume more money. At this point, I'd prefer to cut cost and gain young pieces and 1sts than postpone the future any longer.

    It's not gonna happen, but I'd ask Nash if there's a contending team he'd like to play for. Not sure there's one beyond LA in need of a PG, and I know he's not going there.

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    I'm still waiting to know what offensive rebounds other than Gasol's 3 Amare is responsible for.

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    He'd rebound if he played with a real center. Post AS break he averaged double figure rebounding with Lopez playing next to him.
    But you just said Lopez is not a real center.

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    I'm still waiting to know what offensive rebounds other than Gasol's 3 Amare is responsible for.
    Are you basing your judgments on him deserving a max deal on this one game?

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    That trade would royally suck. It's ridiculous how high the standards people hold Amare to are. Whenever the Suns lose, it somehow has to do with him not grabbing enough rebounds. It has nothing to do with the atrocious SG and SF defense, or how much barbosa and hill suck, Amare not grabbing more rebounds is the root of all evil.
    You seem surprised that people criticize Amare 7-20, 4 rebound performance.

    Im not putting this loss all on Amare. But his play was a big part in it.

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    I put the loss on Gentry and Amare.

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    Are you basing your judgments on him deserving a max deal on this one game?

    No, I'm basing it off his post AS-break play.

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    I put the loss on Gentry and Amare.

    and not bosa or Grant Hill?

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    Scola and a 1st or two is also possible, but Scola is a FA and would assume more money. At this point, I'd prefer to cut cost and gain young pieces and 1sts than postpone the future any longer.

    It's not gonna happen, but I'd ask Nash if there's a contending team he'd like to play for. Not sure there's one beyond LA in need of a PG, and I know he's not going there.

    You just wanna turn the team into a lottery team in full rebuilding mode right after this? I don't get it....

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    how many alcoholic drinks will one consume until one drinks oneself into a question mark?

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    I'm still waiting to know what offensive rebounds other than Gasol's 3 Amare is responsible for.
    I can't pull them off the top of my head. Point is, Amare did a terrible job rebounding tonight. Its like he only got them if they fell into his lap. With his athleticism he should be able to go get rebounds, not just have them come to him.

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    and not bosa or Grant Hill?
    Barbosa shouldn't have been in there/left in there. Gentry's fault.

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    It's ridiculous how high the standards people hold Amare to are.
    You realize Amar'e brought it all on himself with that stupid mouth of his, right? People just expect him to live up to what he claims he is.

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    You seem surprised that people criticize Amare 7-20, 4 rebound performance.

    Im not putting this loss all on Amare. But his play was a big part in it.

    Quit acting like you watched the game badfish, all you can do is read stats off the box score. You still have yet to answer my question as to what offensive rebounds outside of Gasol's 3 Amare is responsible for, probably because you didn't watch the game.

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    I can't pull them off the top of my head. Point is, Amare did a terrible job rebounding tonight.

    you can't give me any examples of Amare's bad rebounding, but you can say he did a terrible job because you read the stat sheet.

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    I put the loss on Gentry and Amare.
    You could. And you could add Barbosa. And Nash ed up when they had the chance to cut the lead to one or tie the game. And probably more.

    But in the end, it was the great play of Artest and Fisher. And above all Kobe made some incredibly tough shots down the stretch. I'm pretty sure had he not made those the Lakers would've lost.

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    • Good series Lakers fans, you guys earned this. Good luck in the finals.
    • Barbosa sucks
    • Dragic is a stud
    • The Suns need a center
    • Barbosa sucks
    • Kobe is really good
    • Channing Frye can't play defense
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    Simply You Very Much!!! ohh and instead of calling you a SOB...just tell yo mama she's a ...

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    GOD DAMMIT AMARE, KOBE DROPPED 37 POINTS!!! If you grabbed 10 rebounds instead of 4, he would have been lucky to get 10!

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