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code for didn't watch much of it.
I watched most of the game. I saw Frye doing a much better job rebounding than Amare. I saw the Lakers get key offensive boards down the stretch while Amare just stood there.
You seem to be getting tense. After the Mavs lost, I was not sober long. Follow my example.
Yet you can't identify one Lakers offensive rebound that Amare was responsible for.
I watched at least 75% of it, probably more. And the rebounds I saw Amare get were easy rebounds most anyone could pull down.
You're relying on too many iffy variables to think they'll repeat this type of performance. They have some youngsters who can improve, but too many players are at their peak, and the ages of many of them could mean they are over.
To keep this team, it'll require damn near MAX if not MAX for Amare, at least 25 million of the 36 MLE for Frye, another 2/3 per for Amundson. Hill will likely re-up.
They have Clark and Barbosa as their only truly expendable players from their core, and neither have much value. They have no 1sts, and will use up their MLE to re-sign their frontcourt, and thus have no money to get a quality SF.
I just don't see this team getting any better. Perhaps they try, then figure things out later, but that's only going to cost them money and delay the rebuild effort, which is already hurt by a lack of picks.
They'll have cap room in 2011 and 2012. IMO they just let Frye, Amundson and Barbosa leave. None of them are huge contributors. Get a real center and a real backup SG, this team gets better at D and still almost as good on O with cap room to get better.
Fine. Lets all praise Amare and his flawless performance. He furiously pulled down 4 whole rebounds and shot a heroic 35%!
Blame who you want, but please spare Amare. That 7-0 beast went down fighting, leaving his heart and soul on the floor.
lol resorting to strawman argument's because you got owned. badfish. Worry about your annual first round exit team.
Go make friends with a bottle of scotch. Nothing good will come of you staying here. Only good can come of you getting wasted on scotch.
Party doesn't start till 30 minutes.
GOD DAMMIT AMARE, KOBE DROPPED 37 POINTS!!! If you grabbed 10 rebounds instead of 4, he would have been lucky to get 10!
I think you underestimate the impact of having a player like Frye. He's inconsistent, but his ability to stretch the floor is worth a great deal. I don't know how the Suns get this C and backup SG. Like I said, they have precious few young pieces already, and can't afford to trade Dragic or Lopez. Clark has very little value on the market, and Barbosa practically none at the moment. With zero 1sts of value to really throw at an acquisition, I don't see Barbosa being involved in the deal for either. Maybe for the SG, but that's likely to require Clark and a future 1st. That's a tough package to give up for a conference contention and little else.
I'd love to hear what centers and shooting guards are available for what the Suns have to offer. I'm serious. If there's a way to remain contending, I'd love to do it.
I'm saying keep the transition phase for another year and then make a splash in FA in 2011 or 2012. Blowing the team up would be stupid. Gortat is probably available at C, Rodney Carney at back SG.
They need to trade Barbosa to Houston for Jeffries. Houston could lose Lowry, and Barbosa is more of a need than Jeffries for the Rockets if Lowry leaves. It might take a future 1st to do so, but it would clear CAP for 2011 and Jeffries is a solid defender to replace Amundson, though I'd hate to see PTD leave.
Gortat is interesting, but I don't see the Suns having the pieces to get him.
They need to trade Barbosa period or if that doesn't work trap him in a grease fire.
It's a trap. Spending the bulk of the MLE on Frye would be a mistake.
Eventually, getting to the top in the NBA involves spending some time at the bottom unless you are the beneficiary of a trade that raises cries of collusion.
For Phoenix to stay near their current level they will have to keep Amare and pay him the max or very close to it. The Amare/Nash combo has been together for five years. Do you really believe that their best year is yet to come? Do you trust Amare to live up to a 6yr/120M contract?
Steve Kerr will need to answer those questions.
You're not going to give Nash props for playing like he did?
Few players have had to play the way he has. And you are being very unfair to him in this case DOK.
You should feel lucky you have such a guy, 1st ballot HOFer, and someone that cares more about his team than a ing paycheck.
Eh, you gotta live with Barbosa one more year, and then he becomes a valuable expiring.
He gave him props, though I think it was in another thread.
I think the way I used to kill off my Sims would work. Ask him to go swimming and then take away the ladder.
Does that surprise you?You're not going to give Nash props for playing like he did?
I understand everything you say. I'm the one arguing to let 'em all go to free up CAP and via sign-n-trade.
If the Suns decide to remain compe ive, then they can't just let Frye go. He's crucial in what he does. Granted, all it is is chuck threes, but it helps Phoenix tremendously. I wouldn't want to spend any more than 5 years, 20 million, but I understand if they spend as much as 25 million to keep him (though I say 5 years, I simply mean 4 million is preferred, but 5 million is understandable). Anything more, is too much and will kill the Suns if longer term.
As far as answers to your questions, Nash/Amare have peaked, and no, Amare cannot live up to a MAX contract with his current skillset/mentality.
"Amazing" is pushing it.
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