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Honestly, if they win the chip this year, he's the greatest Laker ever.
What do you think? And is he the greatest Laker of all of time?
I think he has surpassed Shaq, Kareem and West. What about Magic?
Honestly, if they win the chip this year, he's the greatest Laker ever.
Maybe Shaq, yes for West... no for Magic and Kareem. I don't think he ever passes Magic.
not Magic yet...but if he gets his 5th, then he ties him in rings and beats him in the Lakers record books. SO i say yes after this season.
Magic is still the best Laker IMO. He's had a better career at this point with 5 rings and being the best player on most of those teams. In fact, Magic may be the 2nd best player in NBA history behind Jordan.
Kareem won 5 rings in LA as well and was a dominant player in his own right. Kobe may surpassed him as the better Laker, but Kareem still has had a better career at this point especially having 6 rings total. You could make a case for Kareem being the best center in NBA history. Definitely the best offensive center in history.
If he wins the le this year, you could make the argument against Shaq..I don't know if I would, I'd have to think about it, but he would have a good argument..
He has absolutely no argument vs. Magic or Kareem(overall career, not just as a Laker) though, even if he wins a le this year..he doesn't have the individual accolades of either guy(not even close, really), and his peak definitely wasn't as high as either guy..
Last edited by HarlemHeat37; 05-30-2010 at 03:29 AM.
how? the dude has never once been the leading man on a championship team! if the Lakers win it this season, well its still a toss up between Kobe and Gasol as to which one is the true team leader.
I don't think there was a Laker with a single greater impact than Magic.
Magic may have won more if not having to retire early.
Shaq won all 3 finals MVP awards and held Kobe's hand every step of the way ... last season Gasol was the team leader and without a doubt the only reason the Lakers won and everyone knows it ... this season its arguably a toss up between Gasol and Kobe because Gasol has been struggling a bit.
damn guys...you act as if Kobe was freaking Adam Morrison when he got those first 3 rings.
Not a chance. Jordan was on his way and ain't nobody, and i mean Magic, Hakeem, Malone or Barkley could've stopped Jordan.
no son that's not true. Kobe is one of the best role players of all time. its just downright ignorant and stupid to list him as one of the best players of all time though. top 50-75? yea ... but he is absolutely nowhere near the top.
^^man i miss the old you.
Not Morrison bad, but he was probably Pippen good...
That's true.
He's behind kareem and magic, Baylor and Shaq were better players than kobe but they didn't win enough.
Over Magic? Are you nuts? If he has a Finals anything like his WCF then he'll eclipse Shaq, but I can't seriously believe that anyone who saw Magic play could ever put another Laker player in front of him. I ain't trying to hate on Kobe, but Magic hit a gamewinner in the Finals in Boston Garden and won 2 les in 3 tries vs the best teams the Celtics have ever had.
Baylor wasn't a better player than Kobe..
Shaq has the same amount of rings as Kobe, only 1 of them coming as a sidekick, so what do you mean by that?..
Shaq didn't win enough???! .... dude he single handedly won 3 championships for L.A. lol
IMO Magic will always be the greatest Laker of all time. He accomplished far more than Kobe has done up until now in 2 less seasons.
i meant in the all time lakers list, of course shaq and duncan owned the decade. But kobe can surpass him and win at least 2 rings with a very stacked team.
and yes i think baylor is underrated.
Whatever you say, the haters are always going to break out the old "Shaq held Kobe's hand to the first three ships" phrase. Anybody who watched the playoff games during 2000-02 know that Kobe was the go to guy in the clutch, always the guy making the key plays down the stretch.. whether its from the top of the key/freethrowline/elbow isolation/kick, or getting key rebounds and putbacks (vs Indiana, San Antonio etc). Shaq was the bread and butter of the offense, but Kobe was always the closer.
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