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    -- game.

    Could be a friendly call, but Dirk wants to wing a ring with Nash according to my sources.


    I would gladly take a sign and trade of Dragic, Earl Clark, draft picks, and possibly J-Rich for a sign N trade. If it has to happen.

    Dirk is pretty much a pimp'd out Channing Frye.

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    I don't think a Dirk/Nash combo will be good enough to make a le run unless they had a 3rd option in the perimeter who could provide alot of scoring.

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    Suns aren't trading Dragic.

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    son a Dirk/Nash combo = lottery bound

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    That's a phone call a few years too late.

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    Clever got me this far... JMarkJohns's Avatar
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    If Dirk wants a le and to play with Nash so badly, sign for the MLE for two seasons. He's tied to Nash for the remainder of Nash's career, and then free to sign another quality contract in 2012. This enables the Suns to keep Amare or trade him for a true C and starting SF.

    Other than that, just stupid... and even that is unrealistic.

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    dawg

    Amare
    Dirk
    Grant Hill
    J-Rich
    Nash

    = Killer

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    Clever got me this far... JMarkJohns's Avatar
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    = crappy defense/rebounding/no bench/no future

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    dawg

    Amare
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    Grant Hill
    J-Rich
    Nash

    = Killer
    And how the would we keep Stoudemire and add Dirk? Not even feasible without giving away important pieces in a sign/trade. If Amare walks, we could sign Dirk outright- but that wouldn't help us one bit.

    Dirk/Lopez would be a good tandem, but we'd instantly become a jumpshooting team with Lopez being the only interior presence. Dirk is a better defender, rebounder, overall player than Amare, but he wouldn't fit too well in our already offense-heavy system.

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    And how the would we keep Stoudemire and add Dirk? Not even feasible without giving away important pieces in a sign/trade.
    That was the proposal, at least, in opinion.

    If Amare walks, we could sign Dirk outright
    No they can't. They are over CAP and don't hold Bird rights to Dirk. It'll need to be a sign-n-trade for a big contract, or Dirk excepting the MLE. Neither is likely to happen.

    If Dirk signs the MLE and Amare re-signs, then they can technically be on the same team, but this only adds to woes already shown, and doesn't address anything but the offensive inconsistency, and that the least of the concerns.

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    yeah, Dirk would still come via sign and trade, he may not get a Max deal, but he'll gladly take 10-13 mil.

    Again, you guys are not a defensive team anyways. Channing Frye got most of the burn besides Amare tonight.

    Just imagine Dirk playing Frye's role.

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    Nash, pick and roll with Amare and Dirk = killer.

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    Nash, pick and roll with Amare and Dirk = killer.
    You need a bench. With no money to sign Frye or Amundson, and no Dragic, they have no bench. With no Dragic, Clark and picks, they have no future.

    No defense, only slightly better rebounding = not enough to sacrifice the little future they have.

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    No they can't. They are over CAP and don't hold Bird rights to Dirk. It'll need to be a sign-n-trade for a big contract, or Dirk excepting the MLE. Neither is likely to happen.
    I said "if Amare walks," which is likely (hopefully). We would have $43 mil committed salary, assuming Frye opts out as well. In such a case we could sign Dirk (or any other free agent) without having to do a sign/trade.

    I'm talking about a team with Dirk and no Amare...which I think would go just about as far as the Suns did this year.

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    no, ya'll are overrating Dragic, he is good but not Dirk good.
    I'll give you the ''future'' part, but if Dirk says yes, Phoenix owes Nash, they need to do it.

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    I said "if Amare walks," which is likely (hopefully). We would have $43 mil committed salary, assuming Frye opts out as well. In such a case we could sign Dirk (or any other free agent) without having to do a sign/trade.

    I'm talking about a team with Dirk and no Amare...which I think would go just about as far as the Suns did this year.
    Gotcha... I'm tired. I missed something. Yes, if they rescind rights to Amare, or he signs elsewhere first, then yes, I get it. And agreed. Either way, this is a lateral move at best. It would take a miracle to get Dirk and keep Amare and Dragic/1sts, and I don't think Dirk signs the MLE.

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    no, ya'll are overrating Dragic, he is good but not Dirk good.
    I'll give you the ''future'' part, but if Dirk says yes, Phoenix owes Nash, they need to do it.
    Suns don't owe Nash anything. He re-signed with them, forfeiting his other options. He knew what they were and what they weren't. It sucks, for sure. If Dirk really wants to play alongside Nash and contend, his option is simple: take less money, allowing for Amare to return or fetch a nice package in sign-n-trade, and allow the Suns to keep much of its depth.

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    Think about it, you're only losing Dragic and the 1st.
    the sign and trade that I proposed, Dirk would still take a pay cut. But I don't think he'll take the MLE, sure he'll probably take a pay cut around the 10-12 mill area.

    Clark didn't play in this series anyways, Robert Sarver just posted your 1st round draft pick on Phoenix.craigslist.org this year, asking price 1 million benjamin washingtons.


    And You have to admit, Dirk pwns Dragic.

    Basically you're only losing Dragic.

    And this is coming from a Mavs fan who is still dreaming about Ghazi's Lebron masterplan.

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    dawg

    Amare
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    Grant Hill
    J-Rich
    Nash

    = Killer
    Not really.

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    Yall are crazy if you think Frye, Amare, Hill, JRich, Nash is very good, but Dirk, Amare, Hill, JRich, and Nash aint killah bonnanzzzza.

    Go a goat!

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    Yall are crazy if you think Frye, Amare, Hill, JRich, Nash is very good, but Dirk, Amare, Hill, JRich, and Nash aint killah bonnanzzzza.

    Go a goat!
    It's better, but not that much better. The Suns have enough offense, they need more defense. the 3 and 5 are the positions to improve IMO.

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    You can't change that team from an offensive team to a defensive team imo.
    It just doesnt work, they need to add more consistent offensive players.
    Sometimes Dragic and Frye are great, but with Dirk, you know he's great every night.

    Dirk was just dropping 30 on the Spurs on a regular basis.

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    son a Dirk/Nash combo = lottery bound
    Just like a West/Paul son?

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    Think about it, you're only losing Dragic and the 1st.
    the sign and trade that I proposed, Dirk would still take a pay cut. But I don't think he'll take the MLE, sure he'll probably take a pay cut around the 10-12 mill area.

    Clark didn't play in this series anyways, Robert Sarver just posted your 1st round draft pick on Phoenix.craigslist.org this year, asking price 1 million benjamin washingtons.


    And You have to admit, Dirk pwns Dragic.

    Basically you're only losing Dragic.

    And this is coming from a Mavs fan who is still dreaming about Ghazi's Lebron masterplan.

    Dirk equals 10 time All-NBA (ƒour times 1st team), ƒormer MVP, one oƒ the most eƒƒicient players oƒ all time (statistically), and a ƒirst ballot hall oƒ ƒamer.

    He's promised $21 million this season, do you REALLY think he'd take a $10 million pay cut?

    Also, Dirk doesn't rely on athleticism. He'll be great well into his 30's, he'd be looking ƒor a long term max deal with a shot at a ring.

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    Dirk equals 10 time All-NBA (ƒour times 1st team), ƒormer MVP, one oƒ the most eƒƒicient players oƒ all time (statistically), and a ƒirst ballot hall oƒ ƒamer.

    He's promised $21 million this season, do you REALLY think he'd take a $10 million pay cut?

    Also, Dirk doesn't rely on athleticism. He'll be great well into his 30's, he'd be looking ƒor a long term max deal with a shot at a ring.
    Something wrong with your "f" key???

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