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lol @ singlehandedly. i'm sure he was winning alot with Eddie Jones, Nick Van Excel etc before Bryant started getting major minutes.
sons honestly I think that Fisher deserves to be right up there and arguably ahead of Kobe's status as a Laker. dude has always been clutch and actually improves his teammates and makes smart shot selections. Kobe has actually made his teammates worse and has been extremely lucky over the years when many of his teammates have bailed him out when making selfish shot decisions. (most recently Gasol saving his ass in OKC with the tip in after that ridiculously selfish shot, and then Artest saving his embarrassing air ball the other night)
lol @ singlehandedly. i'm sure he was winning alot with Eddie Jones, Nick Van Excel etc before Bryant started getting major minutes.
Hi Amare.
LOL take Shaq off of that team and the Lakers are a first round exit or probably wouldn't even make the playoffs. take Kobe off of that team and they are easily still le contenders. (and probably would have won 4 in a row)
by the way, how did Kobe do during those 2-3 years without Shaq holding his hand? .... oh yea that's right! first round knockouts, not making the playoffs one year, and then crying to the media that he wanted to be traded! then Gasol comes to town and carries Kobe and the Lakers back to elite status all the while Kobe receives ALL of the credit in the media. pathetic.
Who's operating the BRHornet45 troll?
lol...im wondering the same thing
sons this is nothing new I have always spoken the truth about Kobe. its amazing to me how blind many of you are about this clown. sure he is an outstanding talent and one of the best role players in NBA history ... but one of the game's best? are you serious? well then I guess Scottie Pippen should be listed in the top 5 best too then! lol... the media in this country has most of you all wrapped around their fingers. they can sell you anything and you will believe it!!!
How is the NO Hornets rebuilding process going atm?
It's fun.
It's spelled a2m.
Magic, Kareem and Kobe are now all in the same discussion, but I think it's wise to wait until Kobe is done to decide the order.
The last couple of years, the way he measures his game and steps up at crucial moments, Kobe has reminded me a lot of second Three-peat MJ. By then Michael could no longer rely on his legs, so instead he developed a killer low-post fadeaway and started picking his spots to go to the rack or become a distributor and creator.
Some part of me very deep down inside despises Kobe Bryant the human being, but as a basketball player he is entering the true pantheon of the greatest players the game has ever seen (top 10). What he does over the next 2-3 years will determine just how great. I won't barrack for the er, but I will appreciate his basketball artistry and dominance.
son the Hornets have a lot of problems. this is no secret. however the Mercury are in season now and that's all that matters at the moment.
Ok. I'm sold. Kobe is one of the best role players in NBA history.
son I'll co-sign the out of that statement!
there has never been any doubting that Kobe is an outstanding talent. however he lacks common sense on the basketball court (and in his personal life as well), and he has a very selfish mentality being one of the biggest chuckers to ever play the game. he is a great asset to have as a role player, but is nothing more than a "glorified Paul Pierce" in the media.
Oh, and seeing Kobe play in person is a totally different experience to seeing him on TV. When I saw him in 2003 and 2007 he kinda glided around the court somehow - he seemed to hover and hardly touch the ground at times. It was very strange. Very few players have that, although I bet MJ had it too, and maybe guys like LBJ and 'Nique have it as well...
I never got that impression watching Jordan live; seemed more like brute force, but it was weird seeing it out of a guard.
Kobe's not a very likeable guy that's partly due to his personality. He'll never be a Magic or an MJ in the media (and to our eyes). But to deny his talent and achievements is just pure hating.
Son you're that thick huh..
Jordan had everything, strength-grace-power-finese. That's what made him great. He was a complete player.
Ummm No.
shaqq never won BEFORE Kobe and owes a MAvs choke and A Jordanesque performance from Wade to win ONE after ...
Jordan never got FTs like Wade did in those Finals. Actually I've never seen anyone get that amount of FTs in the Finals, maybe Shaq 2000 and a lot was hackashaq.
FTs or not, that was probably the best Finals performance of the decade..
Individual Finals performance? Probably.
I think Shaq's 2000 is up there too, clutch or not, it was great numbers.
2002 Kobe Finals
26.8 pts - 51.4% fg - 54.5% 3pt
5.8 reb - 5.3 assists
1.5 steals - .75 blocks
3.8 to
Start giving him credit for 2 finals. If he wins it this year this will be his 3rd ring while playing a 1st option role.
Shaq in 2002 Finals - 36.3 points, 12.3 rebounds and 2.75 blocks. No.
2002 Kobe Finals
26.8 pts - 51.4% fg - 54.5% 3pt
5.8 reb - 5.3 assists
1.5 steals - .75 blocks
3.8 to
Start giving him credit for 2 finals. If he wins it this year this will be his 3rd ring while playing a 1st option role.
The truth about Kobe's is somewhere in the middle. He wasn't a bench warmer like some Kobe haters want you to believe, nor was he the MJ #1 option like some delusional Laker homers try to argue. Shaq was a 1 and Kobe was a 1.5 during their run.
Anyways to answer the question of the OP, Kobe will very clearly eclipse Shaq with a win this year, if he hasn't already and will only be behind Magic.
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