This is why I make my wife go to church every week. Dumb her down a little bit. I don't need her smart, figuring things out and .
This is why I make my wife go to church every week. Dumb her down a little bit. I don't need her smart, figuring things out and .
There is a one liner about low IQ and faith out there but I cannot think of it. Maybe it's because I'm religious and I have a low IQ.
obvious enough reason why. people who think they are god don't like the compe ion.
atheists everywhere don't need a research grant to know this already.
According to those links Agnostics finished with the second highest IQs, followed by moderately religious people, and finally highly religious people came in last. That should be telling me something but I'm too busy playing fantasy sports and pretending I know to look into it.
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lol stupid christians.
That all goes out the window when an engine flames out on the 767 airliner you are flying in....or when bullets are sailing over your head.
When someone is poor, they play the lottery. It doesn't mean they believe they will win, but they try it anyway out of desperation.
Even IF a percentage of atheists get scared and try anything to survive, it's a psychological response, not an actual belief. It is rooted in desperation to try anything in the toolbox, not in faith.
I believe it. People who believe a cloud man is sitting above them passing judgment aren't too bright
Somehow, I think DaVinci, Copernicus, Galileo and Luis Pasteur might have something to say about that...but then again, they didn't exactly call Him "cloud man".
Whether by psychological or emotional response, many people have come to believe in the possibility of something more via desperation. Many have arrived at a belief through faith, including those who believe that antimatter and matter came from nothing or that it has always existed. Some people have faith that neutrons and positrons came from something and some believe they have always existed and so the search for real truth continues, but all of these have some element of faith to them.
It's not faith if it's desperation for only a second.
Once they survive the plane trauma, they go back to never praying again.
and again, you made a ridiculous claim that has no evidence. I just humored you that IF a percentage of atheists do pray in a life or death situation, it's a psychological response to survive, not because they believe in your religion.
and btw, brush up on your history, it seems you have no idea about Galileo, DaVinci, etc.
true atheist wouldn't have it in the toolbox.
Well, Galileo was certainly at odds with the Catholic church but so was Luther. That doesn't mean that he did not believe in a creator. Here are a couple of quotes from Galileo: "To me the works of nature and of God are miraculous."
Also:
"God could have made birds with bones of massive gold, with veins full of molten silver, with flesh heavier than lead and with tiny wings. He could have made fish heavier than lead and thus twelve times heavier than water, but he has wished to make the former of bone, flesh and feathers that are light enough and the latter as heavier than water, to teach us that He rejoices in simplicity and facility."
Vasari describes Leonardo's final months, no doubt from details given to him when he visited Melzi many years later, probably in 1566: "Finally, being old, he lay sick for many months. When he found himself near death he made every effort to acquaint himself with the doctrine of Catholic ritual." Notwithstanding his belief in God and in the existence of the soul, it was a ritual -- and indeed an entire formalized religion -- from which he had in general kept himself separated, "holding lightly by other men's beliefs, seeing philosophy above Christianity," as Pater put it. No wonder he needed to "acquaint himself with the doctrine," as the end of his life approached.
http://www.adherents.com/people/pd/L...o_DaVinci.html
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So your examples are Galileo, who feared for his life and was on trial for it, who lived in a time where you could be tortured and killed for not falling in line with Christianity,
and DaVinci, who was a man of reason and science his whole life, and only on his death bed, did he try to acquaint himself with religion LOL
and on top of all this, I only humor you, because showing a small handful of intelligent men who may or may not believe in religion, does not dispute the topic at hand.
that most of the population of higher IQ does not believe in a religion.
GALILEO: “To the Lord; whom I worship and thank; That governs the heavens with His eyelid. To Him I return tired, but full of living.” (Chiari, A. Galileo Galilei, Scritti Letterari. Florence: Felice Le Monnier, 1970, 321.)
LEONARDO DA VINCI:“I obey Thee, Lord, first for the love I, in all reason, owe Thee; secondly, because Thou can shorten or prolong the lives of men.” (Richter, J. , The Literary Works of Leonardo Da Vinci, Vol. II, Phaidon Press, 1970, 237).
DESCARTES: "The existence of God is the first and the most eternal of all truths that exist and the only one from which proceed all others." (Descartes, R. Oevres Philosophiques (Tome1), Paris, Editions Garnier Freres, 1963, 265.)
BACON: "It is true, that a little philosophy inclineth man's mind to atheism; but depth in philosophy brings about man's mind to religion:" (Bacon, F. The Essays of Lord Bacon. London: Longman and Green, Co., 1875, 64.)
NEWTON: “From His true dominion it follows that the true God is a living, intelligent and powerful being; and from His other perfections, that He is supreme, or most perfect." (Burtt, E. A. The Methaphysical Foundations of Modern Science. New York: The Humanities Press Inc., 1951, 257.)
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