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  1. #151
    Yea if he gonna have motivation now?

    maybe Forest for a rematch ?
    Yes on that.. Great motivation for him to stay in shape and get back

    Good night guys

    Dissapointing but a pleasure to chat..

  2. #152
    Rampage screwed up!


  3. #153
    Rampage screwed up!

    Page in shape finishes that in fight...

    He ed up BAD!!

    Learn from it and come back better

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    I'm pissed !!


    Ok I am going to church now seeYA

  5. #155
    Sherdog PBP



    Quinton Jackson vs. Rashad Evans
    Round 1
    Evans catches Jackson with a right hand. Jackson stumbles to the fence and recovers as he ties up his rival. Jackson knees the body from the inside as Evans pushes him against the fence. Evans hits the body with his left hand and drops for a single that is easily defended by Jackson. Evans tries to trip Jackson to the floor and referee Herb Dean steps in to restart the fighters in the center of the Octagon. Jackson opens up with his hands and Evans smoothly drops levels for a powerful, driving takedown against the fence. Evans lands directly into side control, but Jackson is able to get to half guard. Jackson uses his back against the cage to stand and eats a right hand in the process. Jackson throws Evans around a bit with a whizzer, but he can’t get off the fence. Dean asks for action as the fighters fight for position against the fencing. Dean acts and separates the men with 20 seconds left. Jackson sprawls on a shot and Jackson unloads his hands at the horn, though nothing lands.

    Jordan Breen scores the round 10-9 Evans
    Tomas Rios scores the round 10-9 Evans
    Mike Fridley scores the round 10-9 Evans

    Round 2
    Evans avoids a punching flurry to tie up with Jackson against the cage. Jackson has neck control and Evans backs away. Evans rushes right back in to clinch against the fence. The crowd is unappreciative of the technique. Dean asks for action as Rashad leans on his opponent. Dean moves the fighters to the center of the Octagon. Jackson jabs and then hesitates to throw his right hand behind it as Evans is long gone. Evans is using excellent footwork to stay away from Jackson’s power. Evans moves forward and lands an uppercut before going back to the fence in the clinch. Again boos are heard from the crowd. Evans engages in a hand battle for wrist control and then drops down for a double. Jackson sees it coming and gets out of harm’s way.

    Jordan Breen scores the round 10-10
    Tomas Rios scores the round 10-9 Jackson
    Mike Fridley scores the round 10-9 Evans

    Round 3
    A minute passes before the fighters engage. The crowd is furious and Jackson is patiently cutting off the cage. Jackson traps Evans and floors him with a right hand. Jackson pounces and lands heavy leather and an elbow on the face of Evans. Dean looks like he’s close to stopping it, but he wisely lets the fight unfold. Evans gets a grip of the situation and ties up his opponent. Evans uses nice leg work from guard to get to his feet. Evans gets a powerful single-leg takedown and he’s in a good position to work from half guard. Evans peppers the face of Jackson with right hands. Jackson turns his back and gets to his feet, only to be taken back down. Evans lands punches with his left hand as Jackson again turns his back in an effort to stand. Jackson makes it to his feet and lands a knee to the body before time runs out.

    Jordan Breen scores the round 10-9 Jackson (29-29 Draw)
    Tomas Rios scores the round 10-10 (29-29 Draw)
    Mike Fridley scores the round 10-9 Evans (30-27 Evans)

    Interesting, nothing much happened in the 2nd rd and i gave Rampage the 3rd but it felt like Evans won

    IMO he did


    I'm still baffled how Page thought it was better to GNP Shad than stand up and let it go on the feet in round 3. He landed some good GNP at first but then Shad got better position and at that point he needed to stand.. He just wasted more energy jockeying for position. That moment is gonna haunt him a long ass time

    Page!!!
    Last edited by dbreiden83080; 05-30-2010 at 12:13 PM.

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    I'm still baffled how Page thought it was better to GNP Shad than stand up and let it go on the feet in round 3. He landed some good GNP at first but then Shad got better position and at that point he needed to stand.. He just wasted more energy jockeying for position. That moment is gonna haunt him a long ass time
    I don't think it will. To more or less be losing the match until haflway through the 3rd, then almost take out the guy when you're gassed...it's just the way the cookie crumbles and it's not like the loses to Forrest or Shogun (which, while different, can leave the same kind of sting). He got beat and he accepts it, just as I thought. If Rashad lost, he'd do the same.

  7. #157
    I don't think it will. To more or less be losing the match until haflway through the 3rd, then almost take out the guy when you're gassed...it's just the way the cookie crumbles and it's not like the loses to Forrest or Shogun (which, while different, can leave the same kind of sting). He got beat and he accepts it, just as I thought. If Rashad lost, he'd do the same.
    Page said it is gonna haunt him at the presser..

    I want to see a rematch but Page better get more serious full time

    BTW where does Diego go from here???

    He looked done..

  8. #158
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    ty card last night. I was expecting a lot more action. I'm just glad I only had to pay 5 bucks to see it.

  9. #159
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    Page said it is gonna haunt him at the presser..

    I want to see a rematch but Page better get more serious full time

    BTW where does Diego go from here???

    He looked done..
    Alright, I didn't see any post-fight stuff other than in the ring.

    Diego, as disappointed as he was when Jackson's camp took on GSP, needs to find a way back there. Raw skill (which he didn't even show last night) and a good chin are no use against the best fighters in each division (much less rising fighters like Hathaway). His coaches are , he can't work the ground game if he can't take anyone down. And he can't take anyone down if he doesn't make people afraid of his strikes.

    We've seen this before tho, he's lost 2 matches in a row. The difference is, he was healthy for these fights and actually got dominated. He's only 28, there's still fuel left in the tank, but he's missing the corner, the gameplan, and probably some of the hunger. I think he'll rebound, but he's gotta get it out of his head that toughness and the ability to absorb punishment is going to work anymore - the game is changing fast.

    Where is Des so we can ask about Amir?

  10. #160
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    Amir sucked last night. He was controlled throughout the fight. Another lackluster performance and a thoroughly uninteresting fight.

  11. #161
    The Amir fight did suck. I like Amir a lot and was really dissapointed by his bad TDD. He's got a lot to work on..

    Too many people i see were wrongly expecting a slug-fest with Page and Shad. I see that all over the MMA boards today around the web. I get it because you buy into this whole grudge match hype the UFC was selling however educated MMA fans knew different. Rashad was never going to trade with Page in the center of the ring, he was going to try and outwork him for a decision, using wrestling and some striking. Page needed to make Rashad fight him way more than he did. If he was in better shape i think he would have

    but he wasn't..

  12. #162
    The Amir fight did suck. I like Amir a lot and was really dissapointed by his bad TDD. He's got a lot to work on..

    Too many people i see were wrongly expecting a slug-fest with Page and Shad. I see that all over the MMA boards today around the web. I get it because you buy into this whole grudge match hype the UFC was selling however educated MMA fans knew different. Rashad was never going to trade with Page in the center of the ring, he was going to try and outwork him for a decision, using wrestling and some striking. Page needed to make Rashad fight him way more than he did. If he was in better shape i think he would have

    but he wasn't..
    Yup...pretty much.

    I told my friend at the gym on Friday that it's either going to be a decision for Shad or a KO by Page. I was really hoping for the latter, but oh well. Rampage simply didn't look good out there.

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    Page said it is gonna haunt him at the presser..

    I want to see a rematch but Page better get more serious full time

    BTW where does Diego go from here???

    He looked done..

    I don't know why but this fight set a bad day for me [as it started something past 6am]. All day long. I never thought it will bother me that much.
    Really I would care less as I liked rampege a lot and shad was okay. But after Shads talking? Damn I was screeming for a KO for Page.
    This is one of the worst oif not the worst loss for me in MMA.


    As for diego. Man breiden we are thinking about the same I guess. During the fight I was wondering. Ahh now what Diego? Dominated by BJ and now going up the division wanting to prove you the elite figfhter against some young prospect? What's next?
    Well I figured nothing. He is gonna fight his fights. I never was high on Diego. He is just intense guy but his striking is not great esp. the defense. HE's got suspecious ground as well to be polite.
    Hathaway is much more well rounded and the guy is talented that's why I picked him to win and he is one of my favorite fighters. great at ude guy.


    Todd Duffee - well I'm not that impressed. At first I was all wows about his speed and boxing abilities. But that's it. I think he is the fastest striker in HWDas far as hands go and moving.
    Still he never used his legs. Also we do not know his ground game. he did not allowed Russow to go to the ground, obvious reason.
    But all in all long way to go.
    That KO punch was funny though, it seemed like he has glass jaw. But you never know the shot was well twisted. But hmm Todd's electricity switched off totally.

  14. #164
    BJ and GSP 2 was my all time fight that i was through the roof emotionally invested in. This was a close 2nd for me for sure. I was pulling for Page hard, i have never like Rashad or his ego. Page is my fav 205 er. I was in knots before that main event started but sadly you could see the better training and game-plan from Rashad right away. Page just has to get on top of things with that aspect of himself. His window is starting to close as he will be 32 this month.. He's got to do it now.. No more layoffs or bad camps

    Focus Quinton...

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    BJ and GSP 2 was my all time fight that i was through the roof emotionally invested in. This was a close 2nd for me for sure. I was pulling for Page hard, i have never like Rashad or his ego. Page is my fav 205 er. I was in knots before that main event started but sadly you could see the better training and game-plan from Rashad right away. Page just has to get on top of things with that aspect of himself. His window is starting to close as he will be 32 this month.. He's got to do it now.. No more layoffs or bad camps

    Focus Quinton...
    Well said. My tension went down somewhere down the 1st round and I got bit sad saying well he's not gonna do much.
    Then the third round I was almost screaming finish him Rampage !!!
    But he didn't. Maybe really he was gassed that much. Then he lets Shad recover and that was it.
    Quinton after the fight were throwing some s. He knew he could do better.
    I think even Rogan wanted Page to win this fight. But as commentary guy he stayed objective.

  16. #166
    Rampage vs. Thiago Silva


    Make that happen. I don't think there's any way that fight goes the distance or even to the ground. I'm drooling over this fight and it's not even set up

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    I have to say that I was excited for this whole card. Here's what I mean:
    1) The return of Nightmare 'Dirty' Sanchez, (oh man, he's gonna CREAM this no-name new guy)
    2) My first good look at Little Nog since the Pride days, (oh man, another ass kicking -- kinda feel bad for the guy he's going to kill; rookie, short notice, whole world against him, etc.)
    3) I get to watch Michael "The Cunning Runt" Bisping get smacked around and submitted by a legit BJJ black belt.
    4) I get to see two up and coming HW's throw down -- one of them owning the UFC record for fastest knockout, the other a solid BJJ black belt.
    5) And of course, I get to see some Black on Black crime. Boo ya.

    --------------------- what really happened --------------------------

    1) Sanchez came out slow and out of shape. Got rocked early and often, couldn't get the fight to the ground, couldn't handle the new guys speed and power. Long boring decision loss.
    2) "Little Nog" looked more like "Old Log", as in, "The one I pinched out this afternoon that looked like a 73 year old Brazilian" -- He looked SO bad that I was cheering for the no-name guy throughout the third round, and BOOOOO'D when he was robbed on that decision. I originally wanted Nog, but he looked horrid. On the flip side, I've got a new favorite underdog to cheer for -- dude was classy in defeat.
    3) I thought that since the dude was saying pre fight, "I'm gonna submit him!" etc, that he'd at least ATTEMPT a submission. Wrong. A slightly entertaining fight, since we saw a couple of hay-makers connect, but again, another boring 3 round decision.
    4) Obviously, I was cheering for the flabby white guy. What a terribly boring fight... right until Mr. Flab knocked muscle-boy out cold and shocked the world.
    5) Words can't describe how disappointed I was with this so-called 'grudge match'. SO much trash talk before the fight, and not one drop afterword. I hate both of these fighters, but was looking forward to some fireworks and some mad trash talkin by the winner -- instead we got ANOTHER long boring decision with both fighters not taking a SINGLE opportunity to talk smack to each other. What a terrific waste of time.

    Overall, one of the worst cards I've ever seen. If I wanted to watch fight after fight stay on their feet and go to a decision, I'd watch Boxing. There wasn't a SINGLE good submission attempt all night long. Not one! The grappling was non-existent, and the stand-up was Strikeforce quality. The prelims on E were more entertaining, imo. However, I can't wait to watch Sho Gun just BATTER Rashad's legs and body with kicks. He's gonna wipe that y ass cheese- grin off of his catching face.

    Highlight of the night? The Mirko Crocop interview: "Right leg, hospital. Left leg, cemetery." Gods, I LOVE that guy.

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    sig bet for anyone who thinks rashad will win
    I'm down. I really want Page to win, but I don't think he will.
    Where you at, gay boy?

  19. #169
    I have to say that I was excited for this whole card. Here's what I mean:
    1) The return of Nightmare 'Dirty' Sanchez, (oh man, he's gonna CREAM this no-name new guy)
    2) My first good look at Little Nog since the Pride days, (oh man, another ass kicking -- kinda feel bad for the guy he's going to kill; rookie, short notice, whole world against him, etc.)
    3) I get to watch Michael "The Cunning Runt" Bisping get smacked around and submitted by a legit BJJ black belt.
    4) I get to see two up and coming HW's throw down -- one of them owning the UFC record for fastest knockout, the other a solid BJJ black belt.
    5) And of course, I get to see some Black on Black crime. Boo ya.

    --------------------- what really happened --------------------------

    1) Sanchez came out slow and out of shape. Got rocked early and often, couldn't get the fight to the ground, couldn't handle the new guys speed and power. Long boring decision loss.
    2) "Little Nog" looked more like "Old Log", as in, "The one I pinched out this afternoon that looked like a 73 year old Brazilian" -- He looked SO bad that I was cheering for the no-name guy throughout the third round, and BOOOOO'D when he was robbed on that decision. I originally wanted Nog, but he looked horrid. On the flip side, I've got a new favorite underdog to cheer for -- dude was classy in defeat.
    3) I thought that since the dude was saying pre fight, "I'm gonna submit him!" etc, that he'd at least ATTEMPT a submission. Wrong. A slightly entertaining fight, since we saw a couple of hay-makers connect, but again, another boring 3 round decision.
    4) Obviously, I was cheering for the flabby white guy. What a terribly boring fight... right until Mr. Flab knocked muscle-boy out cold and shocked the world.
    5) Words can't describe how disappointed I was with this so-called 'grudge match'. SO much trash talk before the fight, and not one drop afterword. I hate both of these fighters, but was looking forward to some fireworks and some mad trash talkin by the winner -- instead we got ANOTHER long boring decision with both fighters not taking a SINGLE opportunity to talk smack to each other. What a terrific waste of time.

    Overall, one of the worst cards I've ever seen. If I wanted to watch fight after fight stay on their feet and go to a decision, I'd watch Boxing. There wasn't a SINGLE good submission attempt all night long. Not one! The grappling was non-existent, and the stand-up was Strikeforce quality. The prelims on E were more entertaining, imo. However, I can't wait to watch Sho Gun just BATTER Rashad's legs and body with kicks. He's gonna wipe that y ass cheese- grin off of his catching face.

    Highlight of the night? The Mirko Crocop interview: "Right leg, hospital. Left leg, cemetery." Gods, I LOVE that guy.
    Where you at, gay boy?
    Your in Hilarious Trout..

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    Trout expected a slugfest


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    Trout expected a slugfest

    Nah, I didn't expect a slug-fest. Actually, if you go read my post, I'm not a big fan of 'slug fests' - I prefer a good grappling/wrestling/submission match WAY more than a stand up battle. (which is why I can't stand watching boxing)

    I was just upset at ALL the hype surrounding how much those two HATED each other, and yet, not a single smidgen of trash talk after the fight. LAME.

  22. #172
    I just rewatced the fight it was compettive but boring at times for sure. Rd 2 had nothing going on at all. Shad clinching and trying to work on the cage but not doing much. Page did not work hard enough to get better position on the cage and get free for stand-up exchanges. Round 3 i give to Page because of the damage he did but Shad really turned it around towards the end of the round. I'd probably go round 1 Shad, Round 2 Shad (Not by much
    it was a horrendous Round) Round 3 Page.

    You could really see Page was kicking himself at the post fight presser, he knows he is waaaaaay better than what he showed out there..

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    I just rewatced the fight it was compettive but boring at times for sure. Rd 2 had nothing going on at all. Shad clinching and trying to work on the cage but not doing much. Page did not work hard enough to get better position on the cage and get free for stand-up exchanges. Round 3 i give to Page because of the damage he did but Shad really turned it around towards the end of the round. I'd probably go round 1 Shad, Round 2 Shad (Not by much
    it was a horrendous Round) Round 3 Page.

    You could really see Page was kicking himself at the post fight presser, he knows he is waaaaaay better than what he showed out there..
    Yea I just watched a presser depresser

    rampage looked doomed by his performance and said that he almost regrets he made the movie.
    But still respective. Too much as for Rampage.


    Trout - Brlitz - Nog fight was a good grappling match.
    hathaway looked impressive again and Bisping fight was not that bad.

    Hype is one thing. Gameplans now in todays MMA are much more important. Like Dana said in the conference - they not gonna run at each other.
    Most viewers do not like the fights where there are no big shots blood etc. They do not care about technique, well they do not even

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    Where is Des so we can ask about Amir?
    Family emergency; flew up to MI Tuesday, just got back a couple of hours ago. Haven't even seen the fights yet.

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    Family emergency; flew up to MI Tuesday, just got back a couple of hours ago. Haven't even seen the fights yet.
    Blech, hope everything is ok.

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