Why not trade Duncan?

[TheSpursFNRule]

this!!!!

[bus driver]

Why is it no one has mentioned the possibility of trading Duncan?

Lets face it, this team needs to be blown up, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't want to end his career on a team destined for lottery land, so why not offer to trade him to any team he would like to go to? Miami can offer a couple good players and future picks for him. Who knows what we could get from the Lakers, maybe Bynum.

who invited this guy?

[Why So Serious]

... wow some folks are just stupid and should be banned for such stupid ideas.

If you really want to give us TD for bynum i beg you to kindapp your GM and make the trade happen and us lakers will laugh at you.

[Agloco]

Ok, lets enjoy your little game...who are you going to trade tim duncan for with his 20+ million dollar contract......

Does it really matter, it will be on his terms so more than likely expiring contracts and draft picks.

Rebuilding is rebuilding, what would happen is the Spurs would get real crappy real fast and they would be getting bad contracts back with the hope of getting cap space to offer free agents that likely won't want to join us until we start landing players in the draft.

So we suck badly for 2 or 3 seasons get a couple top notch players to go with Hill, Blair, and whoever is our 1st this season. In the same time we trade Parker and Manu for whatever we can get for them. And within 4 season we are back in the playoffs with a pretty solid unit.

Damn,

This is so fail. I don't even know where to begin.

[Whisky Dog]

You asked the wrong question. The question should be "Why not start construction on the Tim Duncan statue to put outside the ATT Center"

[mathbzh]

What contender would be interested in a 34 year old with questionable knees, a lot of mileage and an enormous contract. The harsh reality is that Duncan isn't worth what his contract pays him anymore. Spurs fans will never admit that though.

A young talented team could be.
Don't you believe Duncan playing for Oklahoma City or Portland could have been a huge difference?

[DesignatedT]

Does it really matter, it will be on his terms so more than likely expiring contracts and draft picks.

Rebuilding is rebuilding, what would happen is the Spurs would get real crappy real fast and they would be getting bad contracts back with the hope of getting cap space to offer free agents that likely won't want to join us until we start landing players in the draft.

So we suck badly for 2 or 3 seasons get a couple top notch players to go with Hill, Blair, and whoever is our 1st this season. In the same time we trade Parker and Manu for whatever we can get for them. And within 4 season we are back in the playoffs with a pretty solid unit.

I hope this is a joke.

[easjer]

This post = instant headache.

Leaving aside all Duncan has done for the team and the respect he deserves, look at the practical applications. There is no way a team will take on his contract with his playing problems in the post-season and give us the value back. We'd be taking on several sub-par players (and if you think Duncan is declining and sub-par, I'm not certain how replacing him with multiple sub-par players helps the situation) or a bloated contract.

I really don't see the point.

[Agloco]

A young talented team could be.
Don't you believe Duncan playing for Oklahoma City or Portland could have been a huge difference?

Experience wise there's no question. However......knowing what you know about Duncan's past 3 years:

Does OKC or POR take Duncans 22 mil per? Because that's the other part of this equation. Also, who do they lose to take that contract on? There's a reason those teams strive to stay around the 50-60 million mark in salary. Presti has done a masterful job thus far, but the piper is just around the corner so to speak.

You see, those are the questions that fans usually don't entertain. Basketball is a business. If you grasp that first, then most transactions that take place around the league will begin to make more sense (the Gasol deal nonwithstanding...)

Also, we were talking about sending Timmy to a team that's a contender NOW. Not in 3-4 years. i.e Cleveand, Boston, Orlando, LA, etc.

[my2sons]

This post = instant headache.

Leaving aside all Duncan has done for the team and the respect he deserves, look at the practical applications. There is no way a team will take on his contract with his playing problems in the post-season and give us the value back. We'd be taking on several sub-par players (and if you think Duncan is declining and sub-par, I'm not certain how replacing him with multiple sub-par players helps the situation) or a bloated contract.

I really don't see the point.

again to the point of why I asked who he would trade timmy for...I for one agree with the person who stated when will we build the statue of timmy, i'd throw in ice and david with a small statue of silas as he was my first original favorite spur....

[ezzizle]

2) Hill and Blair will be better next year

what if Blair and his knees explode more the Greg Oden?

[DesignatedT]

what if Blair and his knees explode more the Greg Oden?

It's always a possibility, that's the scary thing. His value right now could be pretty high. If the spurs were to make some big trade this off-season or something he could be a nice piece to add to get some quality guys in return. It's just hard to see him having a long NBA career. I love the kid though.

[Man In Black]

Some of you people need to be Godfathered Vito Corleone style for stupidity. Quack, wiseguy, and Not So fab...y'all need horse heads in your bed.

Pop has been Vice-President of Basketball Operations since 1994 Fabbs. Learn something before you say something.

[Fabbs]

Some of you people need to be Godfathered Vito Corleone style for stupidity. Quack, wiseguy, and Not So fab...y'all need horse heads in your bed.

Pop has been Vice-President of Basketball Operations since 1994 Fabbs. Learn something before you say something.

PopApologist,
He was promoted to President in 2008.
Learn something before you say something?

[dbestpro]

Sigh...... Okay, let's look at the last time we traded an icon and how well that worked. George Gervin was traded to Chicago for F David Greenwood in 1985. It was 5 years before the team had a winning record again.

I would rather try the transition theory than the blow it up theory, which has never worked for a quick turn around. Ask Chicago and Boston if you need further proof.

[jermaine]

Because he is a legend who deserves to finish his career in SA

I'll be 1st to say I'm not a big Duncan fan, but its only a few people who just should never put on another jersey! Duncan being a main 1. Kobe is another, & how odd did Karl (house ) Malone looked in a LA uniform!?! I said Duncan was soft but I wouldn't trade his ass. Duncan as a 3rd option is still good.

[Fabbs]

Even for the posters who think the good and success of the overall team should come ahead the individual(s), Duncs trade value seems much too low now to get a good return.

Something like Dunks for Durant will no way happen now. Presti when a Spurs is one who helped provide some of the players from which Popped was able to coatail.

[DesignatedT]

Even for the posters who think the good and success of the overall team should come ahead the individual(s), Duncs trade value seems much too low now to get a good return.

Something like Dunks for Durant will no way happen now. Presti when a Spurs is one who helped provide some of the players from which Popped was able to coatail.

you continue to amaze me with your stupidity.

[Supreme_Being]

Why is it no one has mentioned the possibility of trading Duncan?

Lets face it, this team needs to be blown up, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't want to end his career on a team destined for lottery land, so why not offer to trade him to any team he would like to go to? Miami can offer a couple good players and future picks for him. Who knows what we could get from the Lakers, maybe Bynum.

[Fabbs]

you continue to amaze me with your stupidity.

Coming from you i'll take that as a compliment.
You'll be in attendance no doubt.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...ight=PollyAnna

[Man In Black]

PopApologist,
He was promoted to President in 2008.
Learn something before you say something?

IF you really knew anything about Spurs basketball, then you would know that Pop has had the same job since 1994. While the le has changed, it didn't change his job nor give him even more responsibilities.

I'm just trying to decode if you hate Pop more than Ducks hates Ginobili.
As of right now, it's pretty even.

[Fabbs]

IF you really knew anything about Spurs basketball, then you would know that Pop has had the same job since 1994. While the le has changed, it didn't change his job nor give him even more responsibilities.

I'm just trying to decode if you hate Pop more than Ducks hates Ginobili.
As of right now, it's pretty even.

How was he "promoted" yet stayed the same?
PT Barnum Promotions?
http://www.nba.com/spurs/news/office...nt_080715.html
"Gregg Popovich has been promoted to president of Spurs basketball as well as continuing as the team’s head coach."

Decoder: Do you love losing seasons more then Michael Finley? Matt Bonner?

[mathbzh]

Experience wise there's no question. However......knowing what you know about Duncan's past 3 years:

Does OKC or POR take Duncans 22 mil per? Because that's the other part of this equation. Also, who do they lose to take that contract on? There's a reason those teams strive to stay around the 50-60 million mark in salary. Presti has done a masterful job thus far, but the piper is just around the corner so to speak.

You see, those are the questions that fans usually don't entertain. Basketball is a business. If you grasp that first, then most transactions that take place around the league will begin to make more sense (the Gasol deal nonwithstanding...)

Also, we were talking about sending Timmy to a team that's a contender NOW. Not in 3-4 years. i.e Cleveand, Boston, Orlando, LA, etc.

Mostly I agree with you. Moreover I want Duncan to retire as a Spurs.

But, If you do something like Duncan for Camby/Oden/Webster... Portland could look like a contender right now.

[sabar]

How was he "promoted" yet stayed the same?
PT Barnum Promotions?
http://www.nba.com/spurs/news/office...nt_080715.html
"Gregg Popovich has been promoted to president of Spurs basketball as well as continuing as the team’s head coach."

Decoder: Do you love losing seasons more then Michael Finley? Matt Bonner?

Surely you are not oblivious to symbolic promotions in the world of business.

Pop isn't going to leave the team for a long time. Should find something else to hate, tbh. RC, Holt, they LOVE Pop. Why would they ever fire him? He'll retire as coach eventually but he'll still be there as president for many years.

[ynh]

I'm not a huge Spurs fan (I am a fan though because they are my cousins favorite team and because I spend some time every year in Laredo and go to a game or two) but I sure as never want to see Duncan in any uniform other than a Spurs uni.