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After you go 4-13 you shouldn't be blaming your teammates.
Lebron is one of the best teammates in the NBA..unlike some other notable superstars, he has never said a bad word about his teammates, even when it was obvious(still is) that they aren't championship-caliber compared to the other elite teams..the media has tried to bait him into it many times.. , even when Lebron talked about needing help in the past, he didn't mention any names or drop any subliminals..
Yes, he's a media ..it's annoying, but that's the nature of superstar athletes, unless you're a Tim Duncan or Hakeem Olajuwon, it's a rarity..
After you go 4-13 you shouldn't be blaming your teammates.
That is lame. He does not blame his teammates, at least not publicly. He also put up sick numbers in the playoffs. If we are going to mock players for one bad game in the playoffs, then no one deserves anything.
He quit. I never said he blames his teammates, it was in response to HarlemHeat commending him like not blaming his teammates was some noble act. Quitters have no one to blame but themselves.
He did not quit. Why is it that certain posters are so quick to claim a player "quit" as soon as they have one bad game?
They chastise a player like Nash, then end up looking foolish. Their team loses one game, they curse them for having no heart, their team wins the next 2 and they end up looking foolish. People here throw accusations around wayyyyyyyy to causally imo.
A bad game and standing in the corner of the court trying to stay away from the ball are two different things.
Guy, he had 15/6/7 and got to the line 12 times. How does someone who quits get to the line that much?
I wasn't talking about this season in that regard anyways..Lebron could have been blaming his teammates all these years, but he never did..again, MANY other superstars have done this..in fact, I'd say MOST superstars have done it..
Because he's Lebron James and can easily get to the FT line without a 100% effort.
Do you, in your honest opinion, believe Lebron tried as hard as he could to win game 5?
Do I think it was his best effort, no. But that is not the same as quitting. Yes, Lebron can get to the line, but to get there 12 times, is wayyy above average and shows at least a decent effort.
We can just agree to disagree, but I think that is a pretty heavy thing to say about a player that carries his team like that.
Last edited by DPG21920; 06-02-2010 at 07:18 PM.
Kobe plays, while all LeBron can do is talk
By Tim Dahlberg
It’s June again, and by now the script is getting awfully familiar. Kobe Bryant is in another NBA finals, providing the kind of star power the league relies on to make this must-see TV.
LeBron James? He’ll be on TV, too, pouring his heart out to the familiar guy in suspenders.
What? Oprah’s couch was unavailable?
The King on CNN’s “Larry King Live” should draw respectable ratings, too, if only because all of Cleveland will undoubtedly take time off from singing his praises to listen to his pronouncements. They’ll dissect every sentence he utters, rewind the DVR and listen again and again.
Thanks to King’s publicists, we already have a hint of what he will tell the people of Cleveland. It’s not much, just tidbit that might keep their summer from being ruined just as it was starting.
The city, it turns out, isn’t so bad after all, James says: “It’s comfortable. I’ve got a lot of memories here.”
Why those few words carry so much importance, of course, is that come July 1 the player who made Cleveland semi-cool will have a chance to flee for the Big Apple or any other place with an NBA franchise. They’re even more important because, since being unceremoniously ousted from the playoffs, James has said nothing about his future plans.
Not when Cleveland’s elite got together to sing a song imploring him to stay. Not even when Cleveland’s own Iron Chef offered to go to his house once a month and cook a meal for family and friends.
It matters that much in Cleveland. The very soul of a much maligned city seems to be at stake.
This wouldn’t play in LA. Then again, James isn’t playing in Los Angeles this June, either.
Bryant is, however, for the third straight year. That by itself is a remarkable streak, even if you subscribe to the theory that Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom help make up a far better supporting cast than Mo Williams and Shaq.
If the Lakers win this one—and the wise guys in Vegas have made them the favorites—Bryant will wear a fifth championship ring and likely will be part of conversations matching him against Michael Jordan as one of the game’s greatest players.
James isn’t in that conversation. Won’t be, unless he starts winning some les.
Great talent, sure. Great player, too, at least when it comes to winning regular-season MVP awards.
But greatness is measured by les won, not awards bestowed. History has a habit of rewarding winners and James still doesn’t have a ring after seven years in the league.
By that time in his career, Bryant already had won three les. And though he may have lost a half step in recent years, he has reinvented himself with a different cast of characters.
Like James, Bryant is revered in the city where he plays. Unlike James, he’s made sure he is still playing when it counts most—in June.
Bryant has taken a team that looked dysfunctional at times during the regular season and all but willed them into the final against the Celtics. He’s done it in a businesslike yet purposeful manner, revealing as little about his playoff thoughts as possible.
To hear Bryant talk, it doesn’t matter that the Lakers and Celtics are playing for a le for the 12th time. Doesn’t matter that he and his teammates can extract some revenge from their loss to the same team two years ago.
Doesn’t matter that Phil Jackson can cement his lock on greatest coach ever by winning his unprecedented 11th le with two different teams.
All that matters is that the Lakers win.
That’s the singular focus of great players. So far, James hasn’t managed to zero in on that, no matter how much he wants it.
That’s why Bryant will be the most watched player on the court Thursday night when the Lakers meet the Celtics at Staples Center. It’s also why the only way you’ll see LeBron these days is to tune in to a cable talk show.
I won’t be watching because I’ve already seen and heard far more about James than I can safely digest. I’m tired of the incessant speculation about his future, tired of watching the people of Cleveland keep embarrassing themselves.
Call me when he wins a le.
The entire team quit.
Not true...Mariachi kept hitting it and didn't quit
True, and in my book, when a team quits, that's a problem that starts at the top.
Not true...Mariachi kept hitting it and didn't quit
Sup Lefty
Agreed 100%
Lebron is a quitter.
Is Kobe?
Le lol
What's with all the teammate bashing? His teammates were good enough for this entire forum to be licking the Cavs nuts all year talking about how good they were and how they were going to win a championship. Oh snap the Cavs got Jamison! It's over now Fakerz lolz! His teammates were good enough to win 60+ games but now all of a sudden they are an excuse?
Once again, teams that play hard every game and have Lebron are going to win a lot of regular season games. They don't coast like other teams do in the regular season. So using that argument does not hold water.
Sure, he had some good talent, but nothing like LA's.
He did quit. He wasn't playing hard.
That was the difference between Game 5 and, say, Game 1 of the 2008 ECSF in Boston when he went something like 2-for-20. The latter game he was trying and failing. Game 5 he wasn't trying.
Bron in Game 5 looked like a kid sitting through class on the last day of school.
BTW, Woj has just been KILLING LeBron for the better part of a year now. Which is funny because Woj has ALWAYS been front-and-center with the LeBron FA speculation. That's practically all he's written about for 2-3 years.
Now he's going to get all shocked and appalled? He helped create this circus.
I'm not saying LeBron doesn't deserve to be thrashed. He does. I just don't think much of Woj wielding the whip.
Regular season. Lebron had a very good team. I am not trying to say he had nothing. But they played hard the whole regular season so they pile up the wins.
LA clearly has the talent that makes the most impact.
CLE fans don't deserve Lebron.
Please. I have always argued LA had the most talent.
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