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I see what you did there......
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All time. He is voted in the top 50. Should he be kicked off?
Just wondering....
I see what you did there......
TheMachine. Kobe's still not better than Jordan
Well played sir.
But don't ever try to bring logic to these forums again. gtfo!
i don't know what you guys are talking about...
too obvious
I saw this coming
lol
Nicely done.
Where's the thread for Shaq?
It's coming... and KG too!
You should make one for Shaq....
and who knows, maybe someone will make one for Kobe and Wade.
And so The Machine finishes the knot on his little trap.
Like I said in the other thread, it will be interesting to see people dismiss the reasoning, but it seems solid to me. Pippen is widely held as a top-50 player all time. I think he deserved it when he was selected 10 years ago or whenever but with all the new additions like Kobe, Garnett, Duncan, and arguably LeBron (if you think he's been around long enough) it is possible he could be getting close to pushed out.
But I suspect he still belongs because he truly was a great 2-way player.
Pau doesn't yet belong though it is possible if he keeps playing at a high level he may one day. But I doubt it.
I don't really care to get into Kobe/Jordan debates because Jordan at his peak was clearly a better player and also had the better career.
But that Kobe is continuing to close the gap in career numbers -- especially playoff performances -- is noteworthy.
So it's worth debating whether one would rather have a top-50 guy like Pippen and super role players like Rodman, Kukoc, Grant, etc. over the years... or a top-75-100 player like Gasol and possibly a better lineup of role players on the same team in Artest/Odom/Bynum/Fisher (and Ariza for Artest last year).
Tough call but I'm gonna go with Jordan's teammates. Pippen and Rodman were beasts and Grant, Kukoc, Kerr, Paxton, Cartwright, and company were no slouches, either.
MJ won 6 with Pippen as his wing man.
Shaq won 3 with Kobe
Kobe has won 1 with Pau.
thanks mr obvious
If Pau had been a Laker through the 00's, then no doubt he'd be Top 50.
And so The Machine finishes the knot on his little trap.
Like I said in the other thread, it will be interesting to see people dismiss the reasoning, but it seems solid to me. Pippen is widely held as a top-50 player all time. I think he deserved it when he was selected 10 years ago or whenever but with all the new additions like Kobe, Garnett, Duncan, and arguably LeBron (if you think he's been around long enough) it is possible he could be getting close to pushed out.
the gasol top 50 thread is pointless without this next to it...haha
BUMP!
You're making this over complicated. LA was the most staaaaked team in 09. They were the favorites because they had a top 5 player in the league AND a top 15 player in the league. No other team had that. Then you add in Odom and Ariza and they have a very good team who was able to avoid Boston because of injury.
name your Top 15 players last year.
Not really an order, just listing players. Dont think I forgot anyone.
Lebron James
Kobe Bryant
Wade
Paul
Dirk
Melo
Duncan
Roy
Bosh
Pierce
Deron
Dwight
KG
Pau
Plus there is this:
http://www.nba.com/2009/news/05/12/allnba.team.release/
Dallas was the most staaaaacked team in 2010.
Thats called shtickDallas was the most staaaaacked team in 2010.
Most of us didnt think we would beat la
But lets not change the subject
It's called stupid.Thats called shtick
"Most"Most of us didnt think we would beat la
Listen to Laker fan when it comes to the Dallas Mavericks. The Lakers know that ass inside and out.
The subject is Jordan winning with another top 5 player in the league and top 50 of all time. While Kobe is currently winning with Pau Gasol. A player spurstalk voted out of the top 50 by a landslide.But lets not change the subject
Only team with two top 15 players
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