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    History of offshore drilling accidents...

    http://www.upstreamonline.com/live/article214256.ece

    I see Discoverer 534 caught fire in 1980, just a few months after I did my last tour on her.

    happens. Sometimes it's really bad. This is one of those times.

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    Drill baby Drill!

    That's what I say too. Drill baby Drill.

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    Fisherman Who Fell Ill During Oil Spill Clean-up Alleges BP Tried to Cover-up Evidence

    Posted By Amanda Terkel On June 1, 2010 @ 2:57 pm In Uncategorized

    Last week, the LA Times reported that local fishermen hired by BP to clean up the Gulf Coast spill had “become ill after working long hours near waters fouled with oil and dispersant.” Especially galling was the fact that one of the fishermen said that the company hadn’t provided them with any protective equipment, like gloves. Now, John Wunstell, Jr., one of the fishermen who became sick with “nosebleeds, an upset stomach, and aches,” is filing a restraining order against BP, citing the treatment he faced from the company after he went to the hospital:

    “At West Jefferson, there were tents set up outside the hospital, where I was stripped of my clothing, washed with water and several showers, before I was allowed into the hospital,” Wunstell said. “When I asked for my clothing, I was told that BP had confiscated all of my clothing and it would not be returned.”

    The restraining order requests that BP refrain from “altering, testing or destroying clothing or any other evidence or potential evidence” when workers become ill.


    BP CEO Tony Hayward has tried to downplay the sicknesses, attributing them to food poisoning. However, Dr. Michael Osterholm, a professor at the University of Minnesota School of Public Health, has said that Hayward’s explanation sounds fishy, explaining that the fishermens’ symptoms are more in line with a respiratory illness. On Friday, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius called on BP to provide treatment for clean-up workers who become sick. (HT: scorpiorising at DailyKos)

    URL to article: http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/...r-up-evidence/

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    That's what I say too. Drill baby Drill.
    I would like to see you say that to the face of one of the thousands of soon-to-be unemployed fishermen.

    Or to a home owner along the coast, or to the hotel operators who will lose their businesses.

    I dare you.

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    win

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    Me so hate oil....
    Then I hope you aren't a hypocrite and never buy plastics or use fuel.

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    (*Sarcasm alert*)

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    I would like to see you say that to the face of one of the thousands of soon-to-be unemployed fishermen.

    Or to a home owner along the coast, or to the hotel operators who will lose their businesses.

    I dare you.

    Wouldn't bother me at all RG, Louisiana has made billions off of oil and gas,
    and those coon asses see big dollars signs written all over the place from
    BP.

    If you are looking at me for sympathy for these people you need to go
    elsewhere. What happened is a serious accident and the fault of people
    who pushed oil companies father out into the Gulf. BP is losing serious
    money and will lose more. No one will lose their business because of this
    and you damn well know it. Obama will make sure there is more of the
    phantom dollars show up to maintain their lifestyle of Bud lite, crawdads
    and catfish to sustain them. And the mainstream media will be there to
    film their anguish.

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    Oil companies have a rich history of U.S. subsidies

    Some say the Gulf of Mexico catastrophe can be linked to Congress' policy of oil-friendly tax breaks and financial benefits.

    May 25, 2010|By Kim Geiger and Tom Hamburger, Tribune Washington Bureau
    (Page 2 of 3)

    The royalty waiver program was established by Congress in 1995, when oil was selling for about $18 a barrel and drilling in deep water was seen as unprofitable without a subsidy. Today, oil sells for about $70 a barrel, but the subsidy continues.

    The Government Accountability Office estimates that the deep-water waiver program could cost the Treasury $55 billion or more in lost revenue over the life of the leases, depending on the price of oil and gas and the performances of the wells.

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    "President Barack Obama says it's time to roll back "billions of dollars in tax breaks" for oil companies and use the money for clean energy research and development."

    http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0602/oba...il-tax-breaks/

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    Oil companies have a rich history of U.S. subsidies

    Some say the Gulf of Mexico catastrophe can be linked to Congress' policy of oil-friendly tax breaks and financial benefits.

    May 25, 2010|By Kim Geiger and Tom Hamburger, Tribune Washington Bureau
    (Page 2 of 3)

    The royalty waiver program was established by Congress in 1995, when oil was selling for about $18 a barrel and drilling in deep water was seen as unprofitable without a subsidy. Today, oil sells for about $70 a barrel, but the subsidy continues.

    The Government Accountability Office estimates that the deep-water waiver program could cost the Treasury $55 billion or more in lost revenue over the life of the leases, depending on the price of oil and gas and the performances of the wells.
    Hey, dummy, go back and study some history. Do you even know what
    subsidies are? I thought not. Just because they get tax breaks, doesn't
    mean they are subsides.

    Typical damn communist.


    By the way, do you have a job?

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    By the way, do you have a job?
    Says the guy posting at 2:01 PM on a Wednesday.

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    Says the guy posting at 2:01 PM on a Wednesday.

    Yeah and this guy worked for 50 years so he could post at 2:01 PM on a
    Wednesday afternoon. But Obama is trying to screw that up as fast as
    he can.

    What's your damn excuse?

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    XZ worked for a taxpayer-subsidized black hole called the US military, and now is living off socialized health care and socialized retirement benefits.

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    XZ worked for a taxpayer-subsidized black hole called the US military, and now is living off socialized health care and socialized retirement benefits.
    Actually, I am an ACORN ex-employee who is now a member of SEIU and
    got the job through boutons. He taught me how to carry signs and trample
    lawns of bankers. He also explained to me how to get all the food stamps
    and medical care needed.

    Okay, so I am being sarcastic. Yeah, boutons, our resident Communist on
    this board, who lived in Europe and thinks it is the greatest place in the
    world, well, well except to live. He especially likes their form of government
    and bennies and wants to make all this country just like them.

    He hates our way of life, which gave him all that he has. And more than
    likely his Father was a military guy just like me. So I have only a small
    little thing to say to him. Kiss me where the sun never shines and you
    are are perfectly at home. And thank God you had a good Father and Mother who didn't abort you like which you more than likely favor for other children.

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    Typical damn communist.


    By the way, do you have a job?
    I'll bet he doesn't. He's probably subsidized.

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    Drill baby drill!


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    , Obama may get what he wants!!!!! Stop the leak and get the oil! Way to go bro!!!!!!

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    Eating my own crow over here...

    Nuclear Option on Gulf Oil Spill? No Way, U.S. Says
    By WILLIAM J. BROAD
    Published: June 2, 2010

    The chatter began weeks ago as armchair engineers brainstormed for ways to stop the torrent of oil spilling into the Gulf of Mexico: What about nuking the well?

    Decades ago, the Soviet Union reportedly used nuclear blasts to successfully seal off runaway gas wells, inserting a bomb deep underground and letting its fiery heat melt the surrounding rock to shut off the flow. Why not try it here?

    The idea has gained fans with each failed attempt to stem the leak and each new setback — on Wednesday, the latest rescue effort stalled when a wire saw being used to slice through the riser pipe got stuck.

    “Probably the only thing we can do is create a weapon system and send it down 18,000 feet and detonate it, hopefully encasing the oil,” Matt Simmons, a Houston energy expert and investment banker, told Bloomberg News on Friday, attributing the nuclear idea to “all the best scientists.”

    Or as the CNN reporter John Roberts suggested last week, “Drill a hole, drop a nuke in and seal up the well.”

    This week, with the failure of the “top kill” attempt, the buzz had grown loud enough that federal officials felt compelled to respond.

    Stephanie Mueller, a spokeswoman for the Energy Department, said that neither Energy Secretary Steven Chu nor anyone else was thinking about a nuclear blast under the gulf. The nuclear option was not — and never had been — on the table, federal officials said.

    “It’s crazy,” one senior official said.

    Government and private nuclear experts agreed that using a nuclear bomb would be not only risky technically, with unknown and possibly disastrous consequences from radiation, but also unwise geopolitically — it would violate arms treaties that the United States has signed and championed over the decades and do so at a time when President Obama is pushing for global nuclear disarmament.

    The atomic option is perhaps the wildest among a flood of ideas proposed by bloggers, scientists and other creative types who have deluged government agencies and BP, the company that drilled the well, with phone calls and e-mail messages. The Unified Command overseeing the Deepwater Horizon disaster features a “suggestions” button on its official Web site and more than 7,800 people have already responded, according to the site.

    Among the suggestions: lowering giant plastic pillows to the seafloor and filling them with oil, dropping a huge block of concrete to squeeze off the flow and using magnetic clamps to attach pipes that would siphon off the leaking oil.

    Some have also suggested conventional explosives, claiming that oil prospectors on land have used such blasts to put out fires and seal boreholes. But oil engineers say that dynamite or other conventional explosives risk destroying the wellhead so that the flow could never be plugged from the top.

    Along with the kibbitzers, the government has also brought in experts from around the world — including scores of scientists from the Los Alamos National Laboratory and other government labs — to assist in the effort to cap the well.

    In theory, the nuclear option seems attractive because the extreme heat might create a tough seal. An exploding atom bomb generates temperatures hotter than the surface of the sun and, detonated underground, can turn acres of porous rock into a glassy plug, much like a huge stopper in a leaky bottle.

    Michael E. Webber, a mechanical engineer at the University of Texas, Austin, wrote to Dot Earth, a New York Times blog, in early May that he had surprised himself by considering what once seemed unthinkable. “Seafloor nuclear detonation,” he wrote, “is starting to sound surprisingly feasible and appropriate.”

    Much of the enthusiasm for an atomic approach is based on reports that the Soviet Union succeeded in using nuclear blasts to seal off gas wells. Milo D. Nor , in a 2000 technical paper for the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in Livermore, Calif., described five Soviet blasts from 1966 to 1981.

    All but the last blast were successful. The 1966 explosion put out a gas well fire that had raged uncontrolled for three years. But the last blast of the series, Mr. Nor wrote, “did not seal the well,” perhaps because the nuclear engineers had poor geological data on the exact location of the borehole.

    Robert S. Norris, author of “Racing for the Bomb” and an atomic historian, noted that all the Soviet blasts were on land and never involved oil.

    Whatever the technical merits of using nuclear explosions for constructive purposes, the end of the cold war brought wide agreement among nations to give up the conduct of all nuclear blasts, even for peaceful purposes. The United States, after conducting more than 1,000 nuclear test explosions, detonated the last one in 1992, shaking the ground at the Nevada test site.

    In 1996, the United States championed the Comprehensive Test-Ban Treaty, a global accord meant to end the development of new kinds of nuclear arms. President Obama is pushing for new global rules, treaties and alliances that he insists can go much further to produce a nuclear-free world. For his administration to seize on a nuclear solution for the gulf crisis, officials say, would abandon its international agenda and responsibilities and give rogue states an excuse to seek nuclear strides.

    Kevin Roark, a spokesman for Los Alamos in New Mexico, the birthplace of the atomic bomb, said that despite rumors to the contrary, none of the laboratory’s thousands of experts was devising nuclear options for the gulf.

    “Nothing of the sort is going on here,” he said in an interview. “In fact, we’re not working on any intervention ideas at all. We’re providing diagnostics and other support but nothing on the intervention side.”

    A senior Los Alamos scientist, speaking on the condition of anonymity because his comments were unauthorized, ridiculed the idea of using a nuclear blast to solve the crisis in the gulf.

    “It’s not going to happen,” he said. “Technically, it would be exploring new ground in the midst of a disaster — and you might make it worse.”

    Not everyone on the Internet is calling for nuking the well. Some are making jokes. “What’s worse than an oil spill?” asked a blogger on Full Comment, a blog of The National Post in Toronto. “A radioactive oil spill.”

    Henry Fountain contributed reporting.

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    Lol@ James Cameron

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    Obama = epic fail

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    LOL@ Holder starting a criminal inquiry.!!!!! Will Obama be the frist witness?

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    lol wrist flick

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    buwhahaha!

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    what should he have done other than wave his magic hand?

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