Turkey has announced they will send another flotilla to Gaza escorted by Turk Navy

[Wild Cobra]

Maybe. The Egyptian border was open too though. What evidence you have that mortar/rockets supplies entered from one direction and not the other?

Good. You are aware of that.

I would ask you to keep an open mind while you get educated too, but I'm well aware you're not interested in that.

Believe me. I do.

'Internal forces' doesn't create the list of goods that are 'allowed'. So, they're suffering both from internal and external.

Then maybe they should have a revolution and kick out of kill the terrorists.

They are stuck between a rock and a hard place, and now you expect Israel to lower it's security and increase their numbers killed?

Screw that.

There was no blockade at that time (the agreement, remember?). And even WITH the blockade, they can still request to inspect the ships in the sea.

Back to the ignorance of being able to inspect at sea.

[vy65]

IMO, that makes it even worse. They don't know who they might kill. They just hope they kill an Israeli.


If you really want to know what motivates Palestinians, just listen the people interviewed at the end of this video (about 6:30 in).

Allahu Akbar means god is great, not Allah is the greater god.

Nice job on coming up with credible sources

[ElNono]

Please stop with such stupid statement. Think about inspecting individual crates of cargo in a known warehouse vs. inspecting the same cargo plus every nook and cranny of a ship, without cutting holes in every bulkhead to look for hidden weapons. You have to cut an unknown ship up for a proper inspection before it unloads outside your control.

So you're guessing and know absolutely nothing about maritime inspections.
Not unexpected, and par for the course.

Do you even know what laws and regulations govern the examination of a foreign ship, be it at port or at sea?

Let's start there.

[DarrinS]

Allahu Akbar means god is great, not Allah is the greater god.

Nice job on coming up with credible sources

Wow, they really ed up that translation.

I DO speak English, so I was able to understand the stupid people at the end of the video.

[vy65]

Wow, they really ed up that translation.

I DO speak English, so I was able to understand the stupid people at the end of the video.

So you don't think there's a meaningful difference between the two? Or is your point a cutesy roll of the eyes?

And what's wrong with what they said at the end? They have no problems with Jewish people; they're criticizing a state. What's wrong with that?

[Wild Cobra]

So you're guessing and know absolutely nothing about maritime inspections.
Not unexpected, and par for the course.

Wow...

You completely ignore what I say. Talk about par for the course.

Please explain to me how weapons hiding in bullheads will be discovered.

Do you even know what laws and regulations govern the examination of a foreign ship, be it at port or at sea?

Hiding your ignorance behind the law again I see.

Let's start there.

No, I'm finished with you until you have a argument that isn't stupid.

[ElNono]

Good. You are aware of that.

Aware of what? Are you going to answer the question or dodge it again? Pretty clear question:

What evidence you have that mortar/rockets supplies entered from one direction and not the other?

Believe me. I do.

I don't believe you. But I have to say that ridiculing you through your own ignorance is both entertaining and hilarious.

Then maybe they should have a revolution and kick out of kill the terrorists.
They are stuck between a rock and a hard place, and now you expect Israel to lower it's security and increase their numbers killed?
Screw that.

I never suggested that. Quote?
I merely said that it's a worthwhile goal to look into finding a solution that doesn't paint with the same brush 1.5 million people.

Back to the ignorance of being able to inspect at sea.

Unlike you, I actually backed up what I'm talking about with relevant do ents. Who's the ignorant again?

[Wild Cobra]

So you don't think there's a meaningful difference between the two? Or is your point a cutesy roll of the eyes?

And what's wrong with what they said at the end? They have no problems with Jewish people; they're criticizing a state. What's wrong with that?

Israel as a nation was around a few thousand years ago. It wasn't formed in the 40's, it was reestablished then. Anyone using time as an indicator of what nation the land is realizes it is Israel.

[Spur_Fanatic]

I love it how some people here disregard the law, cause "what matters is morally right". Killing people is morally right? It's a joke Israel can do whatever they want, and every time one complains, the "The world owe us, cause of the Nazis" thing surfaces.

The world is not split between Nazis and Jew sympathizers, mind you.

I'm done trying to convince people about what international waters is, and what national territory is. What the flag in a ship mean, etc. Simply is people won't listen, cause they already have an opinion, an agenda to carry. We are no going to convince them, they are not going to convince us.

An aid ship gets to Gaza, and suddenly the "they must be giving them rockets and rpg's!" notion is mentioned! And if we ask for proof of their claims, they ask in return what proof we have they were not moving rockets and rpg's...

See the logic? For some people on all forums, no matter what, we have to believe in Israel's word. Why? Cause it's expected we side with them?

BOTH SIDES!

I still believe that what's best for the world is that Arabs and Israel destroy each other. They worth nothing to the rest of the world. On that premise, force both sides to sit, and threaten till they compromise to a peace settlement... They won't like it, yeah. Block them. No country is the world is self-sufficient for long.

[ElNono]

Wow...
You completely ignore what I say. Talk about par for the course.

I answered your every post.

Please explain to me how weapons hiding in bullheads will be discovered.

If you knew what the applicable rules and regulations are, you wouldn't need to ask me for any explanation. Now, get to study.

Hiding your ignorance behind the law again I see. No, I'm finished with you until you have a argument that isn't stupid.

LOL... don't run away!!! Who's hiding now?

[vy65]

Israel as a nation was around a few thousand years ago. It wasn't formed in the 40's, it was reestablished then. Anyone using time as an indicator of what nation the land is realizes it is Israel.

That's both incorrect and irrelevant.

[ElNono]

LOL @ WC that traps himself in a corner then runs away...

[Drachen]

From Free Gaza:

Medical supplies and what else? Funny how in November they were firing mortars and rockets again.

Coincidence? I doubt it.

Can't you think of ONE other reason that they weren't firing at that time? REALLY??

That was during a cease fire! Geez, some people just dont pay attention to what is going on in the world.

[Spur_Fanatic]

Israel as a nation was around a few thousand years ago. It wasn't formed in the 40's, it was reestablished then. Anyone using time as an indicator of what nation the land is realizes it is Israel.

You are a nation if the ing rest of the nations recognize you as a nation, not because you just say so.

[Wild Cobra]

That's both incorrect and irrelevant.

Israel existed about 1200 BC. The Islam nations didn't annex the area of Israel until the 600's AD.

[Spur_Fanatic]

Hiding behind the law is ignorance?

[Wild Cobra]

LOL @ WC that traps himself in a corner then runs away...

No, I just cannot put up with utter stupidity at the moment.

[ElNono]

Hiding behind the law is ignorance?

Gold. Should be my next sig.

[Wild Cobra]

Hiding behind the law is ignorance?

Hiding behind one specific law when another says otherwise. El don't-know is hiding behind a peacetime law rather than acknowledging the laws in play at the effective state of war, and legal blockade.

[ElNono]

No, I just cannot put up with utter stupidity at the moment.

While you're at it, do your homework and educate yourself with laws and regulations governing maritime inspections, so we can actually have an informed discussion.

Wouldn't want to have to call you out for talking out of your ass again.

[Spur_Fanatic]

You quoted a Reuters journalist opinion. Yet the UN laws are clear on those matters.

The UN statutes on international waters is then wrong?

[vy65]

Israel existed about 1200 BC. The Islam nations didn't annex the area of Israel until the 600's AD.

Islam nation? Did you just learn english?

Israel, as the geopolitical sovereign state, did not exist in 1200bc. The concept of a nation state did not exist at that time. There was a Jewish population or "people" and that is sometimes referred to as a nation. But it's no more a nation than "spurs nation" or "cavs nation."

The sovereign state was created in 1948. The girl in the video had problems with the policies of that state, not Jews.

Again, irrelevant and incorrect.

[Drachen]

Israel existed about 1200 BC. The Islam nations didn't annex the area of Israel until the 600's AD.

I would actually counter that since that area was "originally" under the control of the Semetic people, that the Arabs have a "better" historical claim to it. The Arabic bloodline was affected by the Crusades, no doubt, but many many of the Jews living there now, had been parts of familys that had been living in Europe for many hundreds, even thousands of years.

This is all, of course a matter of intellectually curious, but futile debate, and based on an assumption (by me) that for the above reasons, the arab blood is "purer" than the jewish blood.

[Wild Cobra]

Islam nation? Did you just learn english?

Israel, as the geopolitical sovereign state, did not exist in 1200bc. The concept of a nation state did not exist at that time. There was a Jewish population or "people" and that is sometimes referred to as a nation. But it's no more a nation than "spurs nation" or "cavs nation."

The sovereign state was created in 1948. The girl in the video had problems with the policies of that state, not Jews.

Again, irrelevant and incorrect.

I disagree. I would say you are setting your own qualifiers to justify your racism.

[Spur_Fanatic]

Netanyahu just said "they don't want Gaza to be a port for Iran, which would be a real menace to Europe"?

OMG! All this time Israel has been looking our for the world's interests! :O