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    He knows he doesn't want to be part of the BronBron begathon.

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    Lebron has to stay in Cleveland now. He just cant leave this franchise in shambles, not now.

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    Bring him back to SA

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    For years the few Cleveland fans on this site have slobbed his knob like he's some kind of good GM when he was one of the tiest GMs in the league. Cavfan should be happy about this.

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    he was one of the tiest GMs in the league.
    I'm not sure I agree... at least 10 or so franchises come to mind instantly that have been managed worse.

    Knicks, Clippers, Raptors, Warriors, Wolves, Wizards, Magic,... The list is long.

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    I'm not sure I agree... at least 10 or so franchises come to mind instantly that have been managed worse.

    Knicks, Clippers, Raptors, Warriors, Wolves,... The list is long.

    None of those teams rejected the opportunity to trade JJ Hickson for Amare Stoudemire. Ferry has pissed away tons of opportunities to surround Lebron with better talent than he has. After Cleveland got swept out of the finals in 2007, Ferry just stood there doing nothing as Boston acquired Ray Allen and KG. That right there sums up how ty and complacent he was as GM.

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    For years the few Cleveland fans on this site have slobbed his knob like he's some kind of good GM when he was one of the tiest GMs in the league. Cavfan should be happy about this.
    I still think he's a good GM, actually. Certainly better than the GM's we had before him. Better than Paxson. Better than Wayne Embry.

    As for the STAT deal that didn't happen, I honestly don't know who nixed it- Cleveland or Phoenix. I've heard both. Either way I don't know enough to put the blame squarely on Danny Ferry.

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    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    i thought he got everything lebron wanted. oh well.

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    I still think he's a good GM, actually. Certainly better than the GM's we had before him. Better than Paxson. Better than Wayne Embry.

    As for the STAT deal that didn't happen, I honestly don't know who nixed it- Cleveland or Phoenix. I've heard both. Either way I don't know enough to put the blame squarely on Danny Ferry.

    One thing that seems pretty clear is somewhere during the 2009 deadline when he had Wally's contract to dangle and 2010 deadline when he had Z's contract to dangle, there was a point in time when he could have gotten Amare for pennies on the dollar and rejected it for whatever reason. He has been way too complacent as GM of Cleveland and didn't look to improve as much as he could have. Maybe the playoffs are a different story, but being the GM of a 60 win team isn't an accomplishment at all when you have the best regular season player in the NBA.

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    Ferry did a good job, but the Jamison trade might be his biggest mistake. He really didn't add anything more to the team and made them worse defensively. Better with Varejao and Hickson as the PFs. That trade was the biggest reason they lost to the Celtics IMO.

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    Ferry did a good job, but the Jamison trade might be his biggest mistake. He really didn't add anything more to the team and made them worse defensively. Better with Varejao and Hickson as the PFs. That trade was the biggest reason they lost to the Celtics IMO.
    That's a legit criticism. Ferry overcompensated for Mike Brown's offensive shortcomings by bringing in too many scorers who couldn't defend and blew the team's iden y in the process. Cleveland was a lousy defensive team throughout the Playoffs this year, and you can't be that if you want to win the le.

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    That's a legit criticism. Ferry overcompensated for Mike Brown's offensive shortcomings by bringing in too many scorers who couldn't defend and blew the team's iden y in the process. Cleveland was a lousy defensive team throughout the Playoffs this year, and you can't be that if you want to win the le.
    I agree. He made them an undersized team full of great fast break scorers that tried to push the tempo when that's not gonna win in the playoffs.

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    Ferry can also be criticized for focusing too much on a particular opponent at the expense of building a roster that could beat anyone at any time. Last season he designed his roster to beat the Celtics... and they lost to Orlando. This season he designed his roster to beat Orlando and Los Angeles... and they lost to Boston.

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    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    Ferry did a good job, but the Jamison trade might be his biggest mistake. He really didn't add anything more to the team and made them worse defensively. Better with Varejao and Hickson as the PFs. That trade was the biggest reason they lost to the Celtics IMO.
    I disagree. Jamison was a legit player who was added without subtraction. You cant go wrong with that.

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    Wow this team is falling apart. Their coach gets fired, Ferry leaves, and Lebron could end up signing elsewhere. I kinda feel that Lebron has to stay now or hes gonna be hated forever in Cleveland. I'm also sure they ran both things by him and he gave them the ok. Ferry did the best with what he had, but this team wasn't gonna be able to beat the Lakers. If they had a chance to get Amare for Hickson they should of done it, although it was probably Phoenix who rejected the offer.

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    I disagree. Jamison was a legit player who was added without subtraction. You cant go wrong with that.
    Problem in retrospect was that there was already one guy in the starting five who couldn't guard anyone in Mo Williams. Jamison made two. It's tough to win in the playoffs when 40% of your starting lineup are turnstiles defensively.

    Jamison would have been a good match-up against Rashard Lewis, to be sure- but that goes back to Ferry designing a team to beat a specific opponent, not everyone.

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    I disagree. Jamison was a legit player who was added without subtraction. You cant go wrong with that.
    That's true. Maybe it was Mike Brown's fault for playing him over Varejao or Hickson. Jamison made the team worse as a starter. He should have been a backup.

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    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    That's true. Maybe it was Mike Brown's fault for playing him over Varejao or Hickson. Jamison made the team worse as a starter. He should have been a backup.
    well i believe Fiery gave the pieces that should have worked...everyone and thier mom thought the Jamison trade was awesome. the GM did his part....Mike Brown wasnt able to implement it though and thats why Brown was rightfully terminated.

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    For years the few Cleveland fans on this site have slobbed his knob like he's some kind of good GM when he was one of the tiest GMs in the league. Cavfan should be happy about this.
    How can he be fairly judged when his ideas were filtered through LeBron for the final say?

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    What really killed Cleveland's chances going forward was the week in the summer of 2004 when Jim Paxson

    a.) Spent the 10th overall pick in the Draft on Luke Jackson, and

    b.) Let Carlos Boozer out of his contract.

    The damage had already been done when Ferry came around. From then on it was a matter of damage control and that's a tough spot in which to put any GM.

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    Don't know if I agree with that, when you've got the best player in the league it shouldn't be THAT hard to put pieces round him.

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    The problem was Lebron as well. He doesn't have a reliable offensive game like in the post or shooting off the dribble. No Boston wing should be able to guard him down low. His teammates didn't help, but a more polished Lebron might have won this series.

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    The problem was Lebron as well. He doesn't have a reliable offensive game like in the post or shooting off the dribble. No Boston wing should be able to guard him down low. His teammates didn't help, but a more polished Lebron might have won this series.
    There's a thought: instead of making stupid movies and preening like a teenaged beauty queen on his free-agent tour, maybe LeBron can get his ass to a big man camp and work on his post game.

    Fat chance, though.

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    What really killed Cleveland's chances going forward was the week in the summer of 2004 when Jim Paxson

    a.) Spent the 10th overall pick in the Draft on Luke Jackson, and

    b.) Let Carlos Boozer out of his contract.

    The damage had already been done when Ferry came around. From then on it was a matter of damage control and that's a tough spot in which to put any GM.
    They screwed up bigtime thinking they could con Boozer into signing an MLE deal, and got what they had coming when Boozer also turned out to be a wolf in sheep's clothing. I still think Shaq was a horrible direction for Ferry to go in, but yeah, it certainly doesn't compare at all to Paxson's idiocy.

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