If "NOTHING" is the most entropic ultimate symmetrical state then it would be plausible to say that "SOMETHING" cannot come from nothing without an input of energy of some sort. Perhaps the input of energy came from a diety of some sort. Some atheists would argue that there was never a nothing to begin with and that something already had existed that caused the big bang. Isn't that the same logic that creationists have that GOD already existed?
The same flaw you are positing here is the same flaw in the case for your God. If "something" can't come from "nothing", where did "God" come from?
If "God" "always was" then couldn't the "universe" just have been "always was"?
The point most would make is that in all of your arguments, "God" is an unnecessary component. "He" doesn't add value to any of the arguments, so why posit "him"?
The only explanation is Intelligent design.
You're missing the point though, why is it plausible for atheists to believe there was something that existed that led to the big bang but laugh at theists who believe that god already existed?
its like jason white winning the heisman
Everything comes from something and that something had to come from something.
but what imprints on time a distinct directionality?
No, you're missing the point. "Always was" is the common position, with there being no reason to posit a magical zombie-dad.
I'm an Atheist and I don't know how the universe began. Its a pretty mind boggling question and nobody has an absolute answer. I tend to side with scientists because their theories are based on scientific methods instead of just making up BS. The idea that an all-powerful God exists who created the universe and cares about every single person... I find absolutely ridiculous. Religion is inherently flawed because it relies on faith, something you have to believe blindly without any proof.
"God did it" is never an explanation for anything.
Why does it not surprise me someone as stupid as Tacker is a creationist? (and no, none of this intelligent design bull , "intelligent design" is the name creationists used for their new theory once scientists exposed all the bull involved in the original creationist theory)
The greatest feats we experience physically are when the outcome is not guranteed, why wouldn't the same go for spiritual and emotion experiences? I think that's the beautiful thing about faith.
As for the universe, no use worrying about how or what put us here, there's no way we're ever going to find out and if we did it would totally with people's minds. We don't have a lot of time on Earth as it is, let's just try to make it a more peaceful place to live where people don't have to look over their shoulder in fear of violence or jealousy. Concentrate on chillin' yo.
Nothing to see here folks, just another blind sheep following because he can't think for himself. Never mind the fact that, like everyone else said, your initial post can be implied to your God. To say everything couldn't have come from nothing so it must've been God is ing stupid, because you theists don't realize that you've once again reached a paradox.
And I tried to explain this but you don't wanna learn, so stop making new topics. Everything did not come from NOTHING, everything came from everything super-condensed and heated. Go read up on 10th dimensionality, quantum theory, etc. It's not that hard to enlighten yourself if you really want to.
But you obviously would rather slobber God's imaginary .
Just because someone doesn't believe in God doesn't make them an atheist, and just because someone believe in intelligent design doesn't mean they believe in God.
The rest of you spend all day talking in circles. I already moved on to alternative design, a theory I created.
Wait, I'm about to spark up a bowl. Explain your alternate theory so I can have my mind blown.
Alternative design has many explanations. the door is open for reasonable theories that have no religious or political agendas. The few people who are involved in this fast growing movement have an open mind, and try to use as much common sense as possible.
That is the main reason we don't engage in smack talk or school yard insults it brings nothing to the topic at hand.
One day I will find such a topic in this forum and at that time I will revile my inner thoughts on the subject.
I suggest you save a bowl for that time.
I'm not talking smack... just pointing out how awesome this statement is.The few people who are involved in this fast growing movement
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No but its the only possible explanation to explain beyond the Big Bang. As we all know, the law of physics and science only applies to whatever is in this universe anything outside the laws become irrelevant. If the laws dont apply beyond the big bang then we can never ever find out whats going on and so the only possible explanation is a diety of some sort.
No mater how much you find out there will always be questions "well what created that, and what created that" In a never ending questionnaire. Ya youre probably thinking who created god and who created him? the point is there is a diety of some sort up there that created all.
i'm not exactly a student of religion. i know my fair share, but i'm not well-versed. the thing that i don't understand when creationists use this "well something can't come from nothing" argument is that if you're going to use that logic to argue against science, then use it for your religion as well. if you're going use that logic, then your deity had to come from somewhere as well because he wouldn't be able to exist w/o something before. but obviously that raises too many questions.
Wrong.
One could say that the laws of science were different before/during the big bang.As we all know, the law of physics and science only applies to whatever is in this universe anything outside the laws become irrelevant.
That. Is. Not. An. Explanation.If the laws dont apply beyond the big bang then we can never ever find out whats going on and so the only possible explanation is a diety of some sort.
"A wizard did it" will always be a stupid answer. It doesn't answer anything and raises even more questions.
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