White people aren't even white...
then you should not have a problem with this remaining a mural that has no apparently "anglo" children on it.
White people aren't even white...
Where did I say that?
I get rather tired of people making unfounded assumptions. maybe if you had an open mind, you wouldn't misunderstand what some people mean.
You know, I noticed a similar thing voting at an elementary school. There were all these posters of MLK and even Malcom X and there were posters about prejudice and the like but white was not a race represented. In fact, it seemed the posters were guided to the white kid.
Here is the problem and you see it to some degree in Israel. Victims, real and percieved, often become victimizers because they have in their mind, justification. It doesn't work on the problem of stopping the cycle of one group using prejudice against another. You just change the group, but the problem continues in a cycle, over and over.
Human condition I guess. People don't live long enough as individuals to overcome a lot of this. We just have to run over the same mistakes, over and over and over.
I see you're at it again propaganda dan.
One of the intruders were Mexican.
The former Minuteman member, Shawna Forde, was kicked out in 2007. She formed a group with "Minuteman" in the name, but one of her co-attackers, Jason Bush, is a White Supremest, and Albert Gaxiola is Mexican.
These animals are not representative of the Minutemen Civil Defense Corp. Just because they formed their own group, the Minutemen American Defense, doesn't mean . The similar name alone doesn't mean anything, now does it?
Dan, don't you ever get tired of portraying such weak ?
HB 2631 vote was 8 yes to 1 no. Marriage?:
And this is how the wording of HB 2281 is that bans the ethnic Studies classes:But the Mesa moonhowler keeps trying to up his cruelty quotient. Take, for instance, HB 2625, which sanctions landlords renting to illegals. A landlord who doesn’t check a renter’s immigration status could receive a civil penalty of up to $250 for each day of violation. Effectively, if you rent to someone who is undo ented, the state could bankrupt you.
They didn't say Ethnic studies were banned, but apparently, the current agenda was a class that promoted racism or hatred.Prohibits a school district or charter school from including in its program of instruction any courses or classes that:
Ø Promote the overthrow of the United States government.
Ø Promote resentment toward a race or class of people.
Ø Are designed primarily for pupils of a particular ethnic group.
Ø Advocate ethnic solidarity instead of the treatment of pupils as individuals.
Dan...
Why are you always full of ?
if you have mentioned that you are against quotas then there is no need to support the argument that the mural should reflect the populations make up. if there are no whites then so be it.
I see your reading skills are lacking.
I didn't say that was my opinion.
I said it could be a reason for the complaints... Other people's opinion.
good old arizona law. perfunctorily objective but, essentially, open to a myriad of subjective interpretations.Ø Promote resentment toward a race or class of people.
Ø Are designed primarily for pupils of a particular ethnic group.
Ø Advocate ethnic solidarity instead of the treatment of pupils as individuals.
Last edited by rjv; 06-08-2010 at 10:49 AM.
and i never said that you did. i simply stated (and i did so because you have posted several thoughts propagating that possibility) that you would be on the side of the minorities in this case. thus the irony: your being against diversity actually promotes diversity in this case.
If the teaching can be misunderstood, then they are not very helpful. Are they?
Can you say waste of money?
if this applies to any teaching that can be misunderstood then we can just assume that all of pedagogy is a waste of money; the liberal arts because of interpretation and the natural sciences due to shifting paradigms.
...and nice simplification but this is not limited to "misunderstanding". the law was designed purposely opaque.
as camus once said 'there once was a time when crime was put on trial. now, it determines the law'.
I'm not going to argue this much. Schools are for teaching the necessities of like spelling, reading, math, etc. I would be for getting rid of all agenda related classes. Like it or not, such programs are just that.
History classes are out then?
No, history is important. Now i would make it criminal to intentionally lie about history.
If the kiddies don't learn true history, they will not be able to learn the lessons from history. So even if they are indoctrinated, they will be weak and harmless when it's crunch time.
Win win.
how do you prove "criminal" intent when it comes to history?
I didn't say you had to have criminal intent. i said to purposely lie about history, making that a crime.
i was referring to mens rea.
Oh I see..
It's that time of the month for you.
Last edited by Wild Cobra; 06-08-2010 at 01:23 PM.
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Actually, I forgot the exact misunderstanding of the term, but remember from where. I should have said, who did you get it from?
a little less cliche' of an insult is not too much to ask if i can not at least get anything else in terms of a response.
Who cares if there are any white kids painted? Are you saying that there should have to be a white kid too?
If that was the issue, why not just paint one of the child's faces white, and keep the others multicultural?
What DarrinS, no comment about how this one story is an overarching example for how racist all conservatives are? Or is that sort of sweeping generalization reserved only for the liberals?
I explained that already. It's not my opinion there should have been, but that others may have had that complaint.
You know, if it were four white kids, someone would have complained minorities weren't represented. Someone may have truly been upset, ot playing -for-tat.
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