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I haven't used limewire in about 3 years. This is pretty funny, though.
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http://www.p2pnet.net/story/40481
Does LimeWire owe the RIAA $1.5 trillion?
If anyone has ever wondered if Vivendi Universal, EMI, Warner Music and Sony Music and their RIAA have lost it, they should wonder no more.
“The corks were popping over in LaLa land”, said p2pnet in the middle of May.
That was because judge Kimba Wood had ruled LimeWire infringes copyright.
Now it looks as though one Kelly M. Klaus (right) of Munger, Tolles & Olson, yet another RIAA posse, wants Wood to order LimeWire owner Mark Gorton to pay $1,500,000,000,000 for 200,000,000 alleged downloads, at $750 per.
To whom? To Arista Records, Atlantic Recording, BMG Music, Capitol records, Electra Entertaiment, Interscope Records, Motown Recording, Priority Records, LaFace Records, Sony BMG (?), UMG Recordings and Warner Bros Records.
That’s one point five trillion dollars.
If you think that’s ridiculous, bear in mind the labels were once awarded almost $2 million because Jammie Thomas-Rasset allegedly downloaded 24 copyrighted songs.
That’s not all. Klaus also wants Wood to issue an order permanently shutting LimeWire down.
“As in Grokster and Aimster, Plaintiffs have been and will be irreparably harmed because Lime Wire will most likely be liable for more in damages than it will ever be able to pay”, says Klaus in a legal do ent going on:
“Plaintiffs seek statutory damages under the Copyright Act as a remedy for Lime Wire’s unlawful conduct. (First Amended Complaint ¶¶ 74, 87, 99). Where the defendant’s conduct is willful, the range of statutory damages runs from $750 to $150,000. See 17 U.S.C. § 504(a)(2)-(c).”
And that’s not all either.
The RIAA aka Klaus also wants LimeWire’s assets frozen.
“By this motion, Plaintiffs seek a preliminary injunction imposing an immediate freeze on all of Defendants’ assets to prevent them from any further attempts to insulate their ill-gotten gains from a future judgment. The Court has found Defendants Lime Wire LLC (’Lime Wire’), Mark Gorton (’Gorton’), and Lime Group LLC (’Lime Group’) liable for inducing infringement of Plaintiffs’ copyrights (and related state law claims). (May 25, 2010 Amended Opinion & Order (“Order”).) Plaintiffs will be en led to substantial damages, totaling hundreds of millions of dollars, or even billions, because of the massive infringing conduct for which these Defendants are liable.”
But as a post on Ray Beckerman’s Recording Industry vs The People says, Klaus’ efforts do little more than show “the lawyers have no clue as to the technology they seek to stop”, going on >>>
Unlike Kazaa, grokster, and napster, there is nothing that can or will be shut down. They may try to stop the distribution of the limewire client. But the client is so widespread on the internet that they have no real chance of it disappearing.
The same thing happened when AOL tried to stop the original gnutella client.
Speaking on the technology side, I think they have no idea of what they are trying to stop, this is the gnutella network. There is no server to be shut down that will kill the network like with napster and grokster. Each client is a part of the network and can function without a server in some warehouse. It will be impossible to close it down.
All clients will still function even if Limeware as a group/company ceases to exist.
Which adequately sums it up.
Apart from the fact Gorton doesn’t have a trillion, or even a billion, dollars, the RIAA’s demand is exactly like demanding an order to plug one hole in a hose chock full of holes, and that’s permanently left On.
“In the nearly two years since the parties filed their respective summary judgment motions, LimeWire has continued to be a tool of choice for rampant infringement of Plaintiffs’ works”, Klaus tells Wood, adding:
“Since July 2008, the LimeWire client software has been downloaded from the website more than 50 million times, bringing the total downloads of the client from just that one website – i.e., exclusive of downloads from Lime Wire’s own website – to more than 200 million (and counting).”
Stay tuned.
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It's funny that they think they can "shut down" Limewire. I cant stand limewire myself because it really does up alot of computers, but the RIAA is fooling themselves if they think they can do any real damage to the P2P network of the limewire client software.
I haven't used limewire in about 3 years. This is pretty funny, though.
we-don't-need-no-education.wma-pink floyd ft led zeppelin
teenage_wastland-the who
wooohoooo.mp3-oasis
Who misses those days?
stupid
i have limewire and I never use it. the last thing I downloaded was a bunch of tejano songs when i was drunk a long time ago.I have a music thread like spurstalk that i use to get music. illegally. last year i bought 5 cd's thats not bad.
Most people use forums nowadays, or Artist, album and mediafire.
So true. I felt dirty downloading files like those after I started using newsgroups and such.
How can the RIAA argue it is owed more than, at most, about $1 per song?
Pain and suffering. You obviously can't grasp the feeling of despair Sony Music and Co. feel knowing that 96 kbps MP3s and fake MP3s filled with trojans are floating around because of LimeWire.
That's the way the law works, it allows for it. Besides, you ask for more knowing it may be decreased. Either way, the defendant could never pay that much, but it effectively shuts down such activity.
And even if they come a little wrong, or without an album cover, almost all media players offer a song fixer and whatnot.
torrenting ftw
Do you really believe that?
It's a good thing they shut down Napster so that nothing more powerful could take it's place.
Yeah, Limewire is a totally different beast compared to Napster. There is no central server to "turn off". Its all client based. The supreme court could rule it shut down and nothing would happen.
Do you really believe that?
It's a good thing they shut down Napster so that nothing more powerful could take it's place.
Again, I hate limewire because of my proffesion, but the fact that they are trying to actually turn it off makes me ing laugh. Its not possible!
Anyone who thinks otherwise just doesnt understand the technology.
I have Limewire, and on occasion I use it. But I'm more into using Vuze now. Downloading whole CDs or even an entire discography is so much easier.
I use it on my old iBook too so any real virus that's on there won't work as it's most likely developed for Windows, so no worries.
Limewire has it's uses. I've downloaded programs off of there that worked really well. But for the most part, I just go with torrents now for my music.
It's humorous that they're going after Limewire, actually, since no one who knows anything about computers uses it anymore.Yeah, Limewire is a totally different beast compared to Napster. There is no central server to "turn off". Its all client based. The supreme court could rule it shut down and nothing would happen.
Again, I hate limewire because of my proffesion, but the fact that they are trying to actually turn it off makes me ing laugh. Its not possible!
Anyone who thinks otherwise just doesnt understand the technology.
Still using Limewire
Works well, no issue
Limewire is lame.
I use Lemonparty.org
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooo!
man, i didn't know limewire was still live.
Did you fall for it? Someone tricked me back in like 2006.
no.
But that's the standard response to give when someone mentions Lemonparty. :P
lol ive fallen out of touch with limewire and such ... lemonparty rings a bell.. what was wrong with that one again?
The federal government doesn't even collect 1.5 trillion dollars from income tax in a year. Microsoft doesn't even hold 100 billion in assets. This is the equivalent of charging every living human on the planet $250.
I have illegal copies of commodore 64 software, so I imagine that nothing is changing soon. Not to mention that people have been bootlegging stuff since well before this country even came into existence.That's the way the law works, it allows for it. Besides, you ask for more knowing it may be decreased. Either way, the defendant could never pay that much, but it effectively shuts down such activity.
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