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    But that deal hasn't expired yet, has it?
    One year left on his deal. He wants to get back into coaching and he's gotten plenty of money from Cuban the last two years for doing nothing.

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    apparently they have a verbal agreement now. good choice IMO for the nets. they get a young coach with finals experience to lure free agents over. devin harris may be on his way out though.
    Harris could be on this way out yes, but it's not like Harris wouldn't take Avery as a coach so either way I think it could work out, he actually wanted him to be NJ's coach

    http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba...avery-johnson/

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    That says more about the coaches the Mavs have had than it does about Avery.

    Avery is good in small doses, but he's not a long term solution as a HC. He's all rah-rah and fire & brimstone, but he's not great at X's and O's. He's a great motivator, but his Napoleon act and need to be in complete control also wears on the team pretty quickly. I think New Jersey is a terrible fit because the players will get sick of him and tune him out long before the team gets compe ive.

    tbh Cleveland would have been perfect for Avery. They're already close to being championship caliber, and the team needs a jolt and a commander like Avery.

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    One year left on his deal. He wants to get back into coaching and he's gotten plenty of money from Cuban the last two years for doing nothing.
    He's wanted to get back into coaching from Day 1 that he got fired. He immediately started campaigning for the Detroit and Chicago jobs. He's been publicly campaigning for jobs every year. This year his public begging annoyed Philly and New Orleans so much that they actually removed him as a candidate because of it.

    The Russian dude who licks Cuban's balls fell into the trap. I wouldn't be shocked if Mark gave a great recommendation for Avery to have the job

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    Avery is good in small doses, but he's not a long term solution as a HC. His Napoleon act wears on the team pretty quickly. I think New Jersey is a terrible fit because the players will get sick of him and tune him out long before the team gets compe ive.
    I have to disagree I think Avery isn't a good fit for NJ, but he is not terrible. Nets need a coach that can kind of lead them if they don't do what they need to do and I mean Avery benched Kidd, so he can be the guy the Nets need to get the players playing

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    The Russian dude who licks Cuban's balls
    I think you got the Russian dude mixed up with Dirk, because Porky hasn't licked Cuban's balls

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    Nets need a coach that can kind of lead them if they don't do what they need to do and I mean Avery benched Kidd, so he can be the guy the Nets need to get the players playing
    Avery benching Kidd was one of the worst coaching decisions of his career and he got roasted for it. That's a terrible example to use as for why Avery would be a good coach in NJ.

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    I think you got the Russian dude mixed up with Dirk, because Porky hasn't licked Cuban's balls
    stop posting.

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    The best coach in Mavericks franchise history
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    no thanks, but thanks for asking

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    tbh I'll take Avery over Nellie any day. The Mavs would never be serious le contenders with Nellie. They needed someone like Avery to push them into contention.

    It all depends on what kind of coach you need. Nellie is more of an innovator and talent evaluator that works better making bad teams good, Avery is more of a motivator that makes already good teams great.

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    The Mavs would never be serious le contenders with Nellie. They needed someone like Avery to push them into contention.
    And the Nets need someone like Avery, so it's a good move for them

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    And the Nets need someone like Avery, so it's a good move for them


    The Nets need someone who can work with and develop young talent, something Avery is terrible at.

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    tbh I'll take Avery over Nellie any day. The Mavs would never be serious le contenders with Nellie. They needed someone like Avery to push them into contention.

    It all depends on what kind of coach you need. Nellie is more of an innovator and talent evaluator that works better making bad teams good, Avery is more of a motivator that makes already good teams great.
    Avery could never build a team from the ground up the way Nellie could. He doesn't have the vision, the eye for talent, or the ability to teach like Nellie.

    Nellie, on the other hand, probably can't get a team over the finish line. He's in Colonel Kurtz mode these days, but he built the Bucks, Warriors and Mavericks into really good teams. I don't think Avery could do that. Nelson lost a power struggle in New York when Ewing didn't want to stop being "The Man", but that in my opinion shouldn't count against him. And let's not forget that he coached circles around Avery in 2007.

    Avery was exactly what the Mavs needed in 2005 with his commitment to defense after Nellie was mailing it in, but I don't think he's a great coach by any means. He inherited a very talented roster and to his credit for about a 2-year period he maximized the returns from that talent. He'll get a chance to prove that he can build a program if he takes over in Jersey.

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    but after he got fired, Avery claimed Devin was like a son to him, and that he coached him into an 18/10 point guard!
    What father wouldn't sell his son for a middle aged woman abuser?

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    The Mavs will never be serious le contenders with Dirk as the 1st option

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    The Nets aren't going to win anything with Harris on the team anyways IMO..he takes up too many possessions, he's inefficient, doesn't spread the floor(since they're gonna need to acquire 1 or 2 big names to have the ball in their hands IMO, along with Lopez), and his defense has taken a huge dive since joining the Nets..

    Their best hope is to acquire big-name talent to be their main options, and it won't work with Harris on the team with them..

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    What father wouldn't sell his son for a middle aged woman abuser?
    actually from all the thing I hear, Avery didn't want to trade Harris for Kidd, he prob knew Kidd wasn't going to solve the problem there

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    Avery could never build a team from the ground up the way Nellie could. He doesn't have the vision, the eye for talent, or the ability to teach like Nellie.

    Nellie, on the other hand, probably can't get a team over the finish line. He's in Colonel Kurtz mode these days, but he built the Bucks, Warriors and Mavericks into really good teams. I don't think Avery could do that. Nelson lost a power struggle in New York when Ewing didn't want to stop being "The Man", but that in my opinion shouldn't count against him. And let's not forget that he coached circles around Avery in 2007.

    Avery was exactly what the Mavs needed in 2005 with his commitment to defense after Nellie was mailing it in, but I don't think he's a great coach by any means. He inherited a very talented roster and to his credit for about a 2-year period he maximized the returns from that talent. He'll get a chance to prove that he can build a program if he takes over in Jersey.
    That's a good point I agree about Nelson in the fact that he is good at building ty franchises into borderline contenders. He's done that multiple times with multiple teams.

    But with Avery its a little unfair to say he can't build a team from scratch. He's only had one small coaching gig. He did very well with a talented roster but he made them better than they already were. Now that he has his chance to build up a bad team by himself we can make better judgement on him as a coach

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    The Nets need someone who can work with and develop young talent, something Avery is terrible at.
    how do you know Avery is terrible at that? Have you since him coach since he coached the Mavs? I sure haven't maybe he has learned from then, people do that you do know. You won't know what he can do when coaching the Nets till he does it.

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    The Nets need someone who can work with and develop young talent, something Avery is terrible at.
    +1. Not a good hire imho.
    But from a mavfan perspective, maybe this makes Cubes a little more open to firing prick, considering he will no longer be forced to have 3 coaches on payroll.

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    Avery asked for a point guard (meaning, "trade my son") and he was completely on board with the Kidd trade. It wasn't until it became obvious that the trade was a fail and his ass was fired that he started trying to distance himself from it. He threw everyone in the Mavs organization under the bus after he got fired, which is probably one of the reasons why it's taken his ass so long to find another sucker to hire him. It's not a good look when you go out there and try to take all the credit for any success your team has had yet put all the blame for the failures on the players.

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    +1. Not a good hire imho.
    But from a mavfan perspective, maybe this makes Cubes a little more open to firing prick, considering he will no longer be forced to have 3 coaches on payroll.
    I hadn't thought about that. Maybe I should be thanking that russian gangsta for taking Avery off Cuban's hands.

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    So when the Nets trade Devin will Avery come out and say he never wanted to trade him

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