Nets in negotiations with..

[Agloco]

Avery Johnson, to be their new head coach.

Sooooo, they're good for 25 wins this year?

[Basketballgirl25]

It's not a good look when you go out there and try to take all the credit for any success your team has had yet put all the blame for the failures on the players.

I agree not good when you take all the credit for the success your team has and blame the failures on the players, but then again the coaches aren't playing so they aren't losing, wasn't Avery's fault Dirk, Kidd, etc couldn't win with him as a coach, just like Frank when he coached the Nets wasn't his fault Brook, Devin etc couldn't win. Coaches are the easy ones to blame when a team loses

[Basketballgirl25]

So when the Nets trade Devin will Avery come out and say he never wanted to trade him

well hopefully the Nets won't be stupid and try to get Kidd back again, they'd be worse

[monosylab1k]

He did very well with a talented roster but he made them better than they already were.

I agree he took the Mavs to a level Don Nelson could never take them, but did he really make the team better? He got them to pay attention on defense, that's about it.

Was Dirk better because of Avery? Was Jet? Howard got better under Avery, then his complete freefall happened under Avery as well.

Marquis Daniels regressed under Avery. Dampier never played well under Avery, but that's hardly Avery's fault. Diop had one good year under Avery, which was motivated more by money than anything else. Devin Harris played well but never played to his potential under Avery.

I don't see how Avery did anything to develop the talent on the roster. He was great at motivating the team and getting them to buy into his defensive philosophy for a couple years, but I personally think Avery is a horrible hire by New Jersey. He won't develop any of that young talent.

[Basketballgirl25]

well here's what other Net fans think
http://www.nets247.com/forum/index.php?topic=13614.0

and Nets 24/7 actually has smart fans unlike other Net pages

[monosylab1k]

well here's what other Net fans think
http://www.nets247.com/forum/index.php?topic=13614.0

and Nets 24/7 actually has smart fans unlike other Net pages

Does The Situation post there?

[lurker]

If the rest of the Nets fans think the way basketballgirl25 does, Avery is going to love it there. No criticism since the coach obviously has no importance to a team.

[HarlemHeat37]

basketballgirl25 vs. Mav fans is honestly one of the better rivalries on ST..she's like the anti-koriwhat..

[Blake]

I wonder if this new owner knows how to speak Avery

[Basketballgirl25]

If the rest of the Nets fans think the way basketballgirl25 does, Avery is going to love it there. No criticism since the coach obviously has no importance to a team.

Well I'm sure after coaching Dirk he'd love it anywhere

[Basketballgirl25]

basketballgirl25 vs. Mav fans is honestly one of the better rivalries on ST..she's like the anti-koriwhat..

it's all for fun, I really don't mean what I say half the time just like to make it fun you know. I forget all this stuff when I get off the computer, glad to help make it fun though

[Greg Oden]

basketballgirl25 vs. Mav fans is honestly one of the better rivalries on ST..she's like the anti-koriwhat..

lmao. true.

[panic giraffe]

I wonder if this new owner knows how to speak Avery

"vaht es des shicken end greeets vue speek hov"

[BUMP]

I agree he took the Mavs to a level Don Nelson could never take them, but did he really make the team better? He got them to pay attention on defense, that's about it.

Was Dirk better because of Avery? Was Jet? Howard got better under Avery, then his complete freefall happened under Avery as well.

Marquis Daniels regressed under Avery. Dampier never played well under Avery, but that's hardly Avery's fault. Diop had one good year under Avery, which was motivated more by money than anything else. Devin Harris played well but never played to his potential under Avery.

I don't see how Avery did anything to develop the talent on the roster. He was great at motivating the team and getting them to buy into his defensive philosophy for a couple years, but I personally think Avery is a horrible hire by New Jersey. He won't develop any of that young talent.

To answer your questions i think he made most of the team better especially Dirk. I think he was instrumental in turning Dirk into a superstar vs just a talented individual scorer with Nelson. Part of it was Steve Nash leaving but in 04-05 it was clearly Dirk's team. He had his two best scoring years in Avery's first two years. I'll say half of it was Nash leaving, half because of Avery.

For the record, I don't think New Jersey was the best spot for him either. I think he would've been a perfect fit for Atlanta. A team with the talent that needed motivation and an attention to defense. Almost exact same situation with Dallas. Only problem is that Joe Johnson is most likely bolting and that probably will be the end of their success.

[panic giraffe]

honestly i think this has all been a smart calculated move by avery.

i mean he got to collect cubans money while earning a espn paycheck and probably pastoring a church or two...

i'm not saying he didn't have a hard time looking for work, but who hasn't purposely ed up an interview before when you realize you don't want a job?

here's my thoughts of what avery's thoughts were...

detroit "trading away all the talent, would have have to rebuild, plus too many muslims"

chicago "hmmm...maybe, wait, once those kids develop and realize they have talent that's going to be lockerroom cluster of ego. no."

philly "just no."

nola "hmmm homestate cooking? nah that paul kid, if he asked for a trade it would be dallas all over again"

dallas "ha. already got the paycheck"

new jersey "hmmm...33% shot at having the 2nd best player in the league, rich russian would be willing to s out a cuban style contract who will also buy insane talent for me to pretend to coach....plus i can preach to the heathens in brooklyn. all win, make it happen."

[BUMP]

panic giraffe?