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    Y'all know the action in Afghanistan just beat Vietnam, right? It's the longest action now. (Pace Haiti, 1900-1930)

    Longest war evar.

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    WTF are we fighting it for?

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    Say your peace, war babies.

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    Gotta call bull on that.

    What happened after Israel abandoned Gaza in 2005? Before the blockade? What was radicalizing the population then?
    At a different historical juncture, different things happen.

    Please catch up.

    Por ejemplo, You should try reading something for a change, instead of just hoisting your eyebrows endlessly, at things you're only superficially familiar with.

    What is it you Hamas sympathizers want Israel to do?
    Who, please?
    Last edited by Winehole23; 06-10-2010 at 03:34 AM.

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    Hamas was dangerous long before 2006. How did Israel deal with Hamas before the pullout?

    Didn't that work pretty good?

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    Oren said Hamas has rejected the "snack foods" and other items that were moved to the acceptable list. Guess they don't see the same value of crayons that CD does.
    Why were snack foods and crayons ever prohibited?

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    Hamas was dangerous long before 2006. How did Israel deal with Hamas before the pullout?

    Didn't that work pretty good?

    Boots on the ground. Human intelligence. o.

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    Why were snack foods and crayons ever prohibited?
    Oren said something to the effect of, "Gaza is a dangerous area run by people whose mission it is to destroy Israel. We send in [so many trucks a day] and didn't feel we were obligated to provide them with things like snack foods."
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    Boots on the ground. Human intelligence. o.
    So then, we essentially agree a blockade isn't the only viable and efffective option for Israel, right? History shows otherwise...
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    So then, we essentially agree an embargo isn't the only viable option for Israel, right?

    Well, they don't have their boots on the ground in Gaza, that's for sure.


    How do you feel about Egypt's role in the embargo?

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    How do you feel about Egypt's role in the embargo?
    About the same as I do about Israel's role.

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    Why were snack foods and crayons ever prohibited?
    I'd hazard a guess: it might be easy to disguise weapon components as (or in) the materials in question and the Israelis have limited time/resources to properly check such things.

    As to defending the blockade in general... the success of a strategy that punishes the majority for the actions of a militant minority in an effort to eventually force the militant element into the open and out of power depends on said majority's trust in the punisher's ultimate purpose. The fatal flaw of Israel's plan is that the Palestinian people have no reason to trust any sovereign nation anymore, and increasing their hardship only inflames anti-Israeli sentiment and extremism.

    You'd think that with the way Arab nations have denied aid and asylum to Palestinians, Israel could actually win points by being the only country to treat them with hospitality, but the other side of the coin is that Palestine is the favorite place for well-to-do Saudis to send anti-Jewish propaganda (instead of aid), which only reinforces the cycle of violence.

    The of all of this is that there isn't a neat solution to any of it. The blockade won't work, but negotiations won't either. Hopefully a new generation of Israelis and Palestinians will see past the horse- , but I don't get the feeling this one will do anything.

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    As Israel ordered a slight easing of its blockade of the Gaza Strip Wednesday, McClatchy obtained an Israeli government do ent that describes the blockade not as a security measure but as "economic warfare" against the Islamist group Hamas, which rules the Palestinian territory.

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    Hey dumbass, did you read his questions on notice that they're no questions at all, but either make no sense or already awnsered. Nevertheless, this guy has not demonstrated he's any sort of weapon's expert and he's wanting to buy his case at whole value as to why Israel is blockading goods.


    Does this guy not believe that HAMAS is a terrorist organization and that Israel has good legitimate reasons to inspect weapons because the country is ran by a .. .. Terrorist organization. It's not as if it's the Baath party.

    Also for the simple fact that he commits a logical fallacy by trying to appeal to authority by citing the UN's oppinion who is very much as political in it's declarations as any sovereign state.

    And his question about if it's really about weapons inspections why don't the Israelis build clinics. That's like asking if you're all about abstaining from alcohol why don't you cut out swearing.


    But nm, you never were a serious thinker here, nothing but the biggest butthurt forum nanny.
    hey face, we already know you have israel's up your ass too far to think straight so why don't you take your unpatriotic ass out of here and keep your to yourself?

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    I'd hazard a guess: it might be easy to disguise weapon components as (or in) the materials in question and the Israelis have limited time/resources to properly check such things.











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    Not to mention Hamas was stealing goods. I would guess limiting the "luxuries" they let in would also limit Hamas getting money from such goods.

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    I was thinking plastique detonators, but yeah.

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    Not to mention, collective punishment sucks.

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    I was thinking plastique detonators, but yeah.
    Israel has no dogs?

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    Israel has no dogs?
    Are you worrited they won't be able to color their suicide vests?


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    Are you worrited they won't be able to color their suicide vests?
    No, I'm asking why Israel doesn't allow crayons.

    Do you know?

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    Are you worrited they won't be able to color their suicide vests?

    No. But oddly, you seem to be preoccupied with it.

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    No, I'm asking why Israel doesn't allow crayons.

    Do you know?

    Probably just to be big bad meanies, unlike the mother in that photo.

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    Probably just to be big bad meanies
    Is this your final answer?

    Your serious answer?

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