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Which makes you an honoray member of society you pea-brain
Your gonna sit there and tell me you've never done anything in your life to increase the odds in your favor hence an advantage?
Get a clue jack-ass and wake up from your stay in utopia.
People who do that in the real world are heads too, you ing idiot.
Which makes you an honoray member of society you pea-brain
Your gonna sit there and tell me you've never done anything in your life to increase the odds in your favor hence an advantage?
Get a clue jack-ass and wake up from your stay in utopia.
Last edited by TheManFromAcme; 06-10-2010 at 11:42 AM.
I don't get the criticism of Fisher going back to the Lakers.
If you can accept the fact that his daughter's disease is a good and legitimate reason to get out of his contract with Utah, then where would you expect him to go?
-Los Angeles was one of the cities where his daughter could get the appropriate care.
-Fisher already lived in LA and already played for the Lakers and had the familiarity with the city and the system and the coaches and the players.
-The Lakers actually wanted Fisher back.
-The Lakers were getting back to being a good team as opposed to going to a team like the Clippers or Knicks.
Why are some of you criticizing Fisher for going back to the Lakers when it made the most sense for Fisher and his family and for the Lakers? Where did you expect him to go? You either criticize him for getting out of his Utah contract period or you don't. It shouldn't be about the fact he returned to the Lakers because once you admit his daughter's disease is a legitimate excuse, the Lakers made the most sense.
Trying to increase odds of success is fine. But using a sickly kid as a reason to do so, and backing out on your word is another thing.
Because you have real world sense of things Jam, that's why, unlike other idiots in here.
good post BTW
I can think of other things going on the world were little innocent children are really exploited and used. Fish's case isn't one of them.
Great great post!
This is why you are on of my favourite posters around here. (blushing)
And those that laugh at Fisher for crying... He CARES about wining and this is why he is a WINNER.
All the NBA athletes say that they care about winning, but in reality many don't. Fisher certanily isn't among them.
I don't think that the medical condition was truly a good reason to get out of the contract, period. I think he could have stayed in Utah and still been able to get the medical treatment neccesary for his child. May have required some traveling, but big whoop... hes a ing basketball player. Traveling is part of his life. I'm sure he could have been granted a leave of absence to go to New York or Baltimore to get the girl's surgery.
It may not have been as convenient, but fact is, he signed a contract. He's supposed to work around it, not just use that as a reason to get out and go play with Kobe again once the Lakers started looking like they were back on track for success.
There isn't a doubt in my mind he could have kept playing in Utah, and that his daughter would have ended up doing just fine.
I'm criticizing him because he didn't need to leave Utah, PERIOD. He could have stayed and still found a way with his millions of dollars to make sure his daughter came through fine.Because you have real world sense of things Jam, that's why, unlike other idiots in here.
Hindsight is 20/20. I'm not sure if you have kids, but you dont risk that kind of stuff.
Phil, rewriting his outrage.
Dang Phil, you still don't get it do ya?
Have you maybe once considered that FISH WANTS to play in L.A? Basketball contracts are just that....basketball contracts. If he was contractually obligated to finish a research project at CDC for a cure that ails mankind and then he splits the program cause he wants to work at Mattel inventing a new TOY and make more money than yeah, that's ry on so many levels.
Fish was a Laker at heart and the Lakers coveted him and he knew it.
Fish is not a Utah guy.
And he's a piece of for using his daughters illness as a way to get what he truly wanted... to play for the Lakers. He had a contract to play for Utah.
It's not a risk when you're a ing millionaire. I can understand if you don't have the money to be able to live up to a contract you have with your job, and get the neccesary treatment, thus asking out of it so that you can relocate to do so. But Fisher had the means and money to make that happen. That's why it was bull . Especially if the rumors are true about them having a verbal agreement that he wouldn't go to a rival like LA, and he led them on to believe that he had no intent to go back there, then did so afterwards.
Like I said...."Killing 2 birds with one stone"I didn't know you were a Fisher family insider in determining his fatherly obligations. Last time I checked, Fish is happily married and a pretty decent guy.
Last edited by TheManFromAcme; 06-10-2010 at 12:51 PM.
Questioning him breaking his contract with Utah can be a legit argument, but then it stops there. Don't bring up the fact that he went to the Lakers. If you think he's ty for breaking his contract with Utah, then that's it, no matter where he intended and actually ended up going.
But it's pretty much fact that nowhere near Utah were there places that could give Fisher's daughter the same quality and level of care as cities like LA and NY and Miami. That's not made up. That's actually true.
So then you question him being a multi-millionaire who could make things happen. I guess. But most loving fathers want to live in the same city as their families. He already travels a lot as a pro athlete, now you're talking about being away from his family even more when there was obviously a more convenient option? If my daughter had a life threatening illness, I would want to be as close to her as I could as often as I could. Something critical happens to her and I'm 1000 miles away when I could have been closer, I'll hate myself later for not being there.
And, let's not forget that Utah isn't exactly beyond scheming either. Do you remember the cir stances of them signing Carlos Boozer? Boozer asked Cleveland to relinquish their limited Bird Rights (for second round picks) and promised to re-sign with Cleveland when they could offer him more money the following season. Cleveland let him out of that and Utah came in with a contract offer the Cavs couldn't financially match because of the CBA rules at the time. Not like Utah felt any guilt or moral dilemma then, right?
Did Fisher want to go back to the Lakers? Sure. I'm sure that was definitely something he wanted to do. But, that doesn't make his daughter's illness any less legitimate.
And this is the first time hearing anything about a verbal promise not to sign with a rival like the Lakers. Where is that rumor from?
You aren't getting it. He said he was going to NY (EAST COAST non-rival) to get further evaluations and treatments for his daughter, and while he said he wouldn't rule out a return to the NBA in the future, he wasn't focused on playing basketball either until his daughter was doing better, yet signs a contract with the Lakers (WEST COAST massive rival) 2 days later.
That's some shady, lying-ass bull .
They actually weren't. They struggled mightily the second half of the season, and Kobe wanted out.
See Jam's recent post.
They sure started great. Then if I recall, injuries plagued the team.
Truth is, it was known that Fisher and his wife didn't like Utah, and wanted to go back to LA. They used the excuse of their daughter and led the owner to believe he wasn't planning on playing basketball in the near future, and if he was, it would probably be in the Eastern conference (likely in New York), then suddenly signs with LA 2 days later. That's shady. Technically, he didn't do anything wrong, but morally, that's some fake, lying bull , to take advantage of another man's kindness (in a BUSINESS world, which is quite rare with all the greedy mother ers around) like that.
Why, because you are too stupid to say something yourself because you have no idea what you are talking about because you are probably a 15 year old moron? Kindly shut the up, lakerfan.
Compared to going to the Clippers, Knicks, or Nets...
I think your argument has some merit.
But it's based on a lot of conjecture, unless you have either personal information or legitimate sources to support some of those things you claim, like him saying he wasn't planning on playing basketball or that he verbally agreed not to go to a team like the Lakers.
That's really just rumors and conjecture, isn't it?
Or do you really have evidence proving those things?
at the end of the day, you clowns posting about this clown like he gives a ?
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