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    This is becoming painfully obvious. Bynum makes the Lakers much more formidable on offense and defense. If I were LA I would consider sitting him in game 5 and hope he can go for extended minutes in games 6 and 7.

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    21_blessings has been saying this forever, and everyone scoffed him for it. LA would be moronic to trade this guy for Bosh. They'd be smarter to get him on a healthy diet and off fast food so his bones and ligaments aren't so fragile.

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    I agree mostly because of depth and foul trouble issues. Bynum has played ok, sometimes pretty good. But it's not necessarily that he's so great, it's the fact that after Bynum/Gasol/Odom, the Lakers have Luke Walton, Josh Powell, and DJ Mbenga. If they had one more quality big man, it wouldn't be as much of an issue. But because they don't, that's what makes Andrew Bynum so critical for the Lakers.

    Depends how his knee holds up. He played really limited minutes last night and they get an extra day of rest because of the NBA/ESPN/ABC idiot schedule to have two days in between games. That might enough for him to be able to go Sunday.

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    21_blessings has been saying this forever, and everyone scoffed him for it. LA would be moronic to trade this guy for Bosh. They'd be smarter to get him on a healthy diet and off fast food so his bones and ligaments aren't so fragile.
    If I were the Lakers, I'd still do that easily. Bosh is a known commodity (might think he's better than he actually is but still a very good player), and Bynum is a playboy bunny away from a season ending injury every year.

    Bynum's value, especially in these Finals as I just mentioned, is a product of the Lakers lack of quality depth in the front court.

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    If I were the Lakers, I'd still do that easily. Bosh is a known commodity (might think he's better than he actually is but still a very good player), and Bynum is a playboy bunny away from a season ending injury every year.

    Bynum's value, especially in these Finals as I just mentioned, is a product of the Lakers lack of quality depth in the front court.

    If they trade Bynum for Bosh, IMO their interior D suffers whether or not they add depth, it seems like when he's healthy Bynum gives them length and lane clogging that no one else can. Bosh I just don't see as someone who improves them much, there's only one ball to go around and it's in Kobe and Gasol's hands as is. This is also just from the Raptors games I've watched but Bosh's defense is an abortion, like Amare Stoudemire bad.

    Regardless, I agree they'd be smart to add a veteran big (I'm kinda biased since he's one of my favorite players but Kurt Thomas would be perfect) so they aren't so dependent on Odom and Bynum to be consistent.

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    "when he's healthy" is the most poignant thing you wrote in that post.

    I'd agree with a lot of what you say. I don't necessarily think Bosh would mesh well with Gasol because they'd need to share more touches than Bynum usually does. But you still do that deal because every year Bynum gets busted and it affects them in the playoffs. Bosh gives you scoring and rebounding and a guy that can actually play 30+ mpg without breaking his kneecap.

    To me, it's not as much a matter of who fits on the Lakers better as opposed to looking at Bynum's fragility and how it impacts the Lakers against a team like the Celtics who have a lot more quality depth in the front court.

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    He's def. better than Bynum is this department, but Bosh is an injury concern himself. While Bynum's injuries are somewhat fluky Bosh seems like he's prone to pussified injuries.

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    Can we stop acting like the Bosh/Bynum trade is a sure thing? Bosh could just as easily sign in Miami with STD-Wade.

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    Bynum has been a beast. But i'd still trade him for Bosh, just cuz Bynum has been injured 3 years in a row now, and it aint gonna get better.

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    He's def. better than Bynum is this department, but Bosh is an injury concern himself. While Bynum's injuries are somewhat fluky Bosh seems like he's prone to pussified injuries.
    Bosh: 509 out of a possible 574 regular-season games played, he averages 72 games played a year. I wouldn't say he's injury-prone. Anything over 70 games played is a full season in my book.

    Bynum: 278 out of a possible 410 regular-season games played, he averages 56 games played a year. Bynum is a better fit for the Lakers over Bosh because of his skillset, but he's also made out of glass.

    Bynum played all 82 his sop re campaign. Other than that, his career high in regular-season games played is 65.

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    No Bynum No LOB trophy

    Horse .

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    Bosh: 509 out of a possible 574 regular-season games played, he averages 72 games played a year. I wouldn't say he's injury-prone. Anything over 70 games played is a full season in my book.

    Bynum: 278 out of a possible 410 regular-season games played, he averages 56 games played a year. Bynum is a better fit for the Lakers over Bosh because of his skillset, but he's also made out of glass.

    Bynum played all 82 his sop re campaign. Other than that, his career high in regular-season games played is 65.
    Bosh is also 3 years older. And he would have been just as injured had he came down on Odom's foot or Kobe bowling into his knee.

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    Boston wasn't losing in '08 even if Bynum was playing.

    And of course if Bynum was playing then Gasol wouldn't be a Laker . Bynum's injury proneness is a blessing in disguise.

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    Wrong again per usual Ghazi.

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    I'm sure Bynum would've made a 40 point difference. 131-92

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    Bosh is also 3 years older. And he would have been just as injured had he came down on Odom's foot or Kobe bowling into his knee.
    True. But the fact remains is that it was Bynum who got hurt and is still suffering the consequences. I think the big question mark is if he's able to rehabilitate completely over the summer and if the Lakers are willing to wait to find out.

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    I'm sure Bynum would've made a 40 point difference. 131-92
    I made a promise to one of your Mav's buddies about not doing your O'fer. You're taxing my promise, asshole.

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    I'm sure Bynum would've made a 40 point difference. 131-92
    Poor evidence.

    Bynum could have made a difference in games 1, 2, and/or 4 where the games were much closer. And making a difference and any of those games could have made a difference in the series.

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    I think the big question mark is if he's able to rehabilitate completely over the summer.
    No that isn't a question mark at all. Repairing a torn meniscus is mild as far as arthroscopic procedures goes. Bynum has a proven track record of diligent off-season training/rehabbing.

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    No that isn't a question mark at all. Repairing a torn meniscus is mild as far as arthroscopic procedures goes. Bynum has a proven track record of diligent off-season training/rehabbing.
    And I know that when an individual suffers knee trauma, the chance for re-injury is significantly increased because of stability issues, even after rehabilitation. And I'm not even talking about basketball players who bang for 48 minutes a night. Why else do you think the Lakers would even consider entertaining offers for Bynum?

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    You're taxing my.........asshole.

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    And I know that when an individual suffers knee trauma, the chance for re-injury is significantly increased because of stability issues, even after rehabilitation. And I'm not even talking about basketball players who bang for 48 minutes a night.
    We're talking about a relatively invasive procedure on a 22 year old. Not a knee replacement on a 40 year old.

    Why else do you think the Lakers would even consider entertaining offers for Bynum?
    Define "offers".

    You're confusing media/internet hype with reality.

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    I seriously don't understand the Bosh fetish everyone has. Absolutely no back to the basket game, loves to settle for jumpers, bad defender, and his play in the playoffs for the most part has been an abortion (43.3% shooting). Outside of the stats he puts up (that aren't extremely impressive or anything) this guy has done nothing to earn the elite status he has.

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    I seriously don't understand the Bosh fetish everyone has. Absolutely no back to the basket game, loves to settle for jumpers, bad defender, and his play in the playoffs for the most part has been an abortion (43.3% shooting). Outside of the stats he puts up (that aren't extremely impressive or anything) this guy has done nothing to earn the elite status he has.
    Thank you, Duncan. The hard on for Bosh is unexplainable.

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    I seriously don't understand the Bosh fetish everyone has. Absolutely no back to the basket game, loves to settle for jumpers, bad defender, and his play in the playoffs for the most part has been an abortion (43.3% shooting). Outside of the stats he puts up (that aren't extremely impressive or anything) this guy has done nothing to earn the elite status he has.
    Would you rather have 72 games of Bosh or 56 games of Bynum? The Lakers could slide Gasol to C (who has worked his tail off into becoming a good defender) and install Bosh at PF, and in my opinion, they wouldn't miss a beat. How do you guard a team that has Gasol, Bosh and Kobe on the floor at the same time? You don't.

    Yeah, Bosh is soft, but he wouldn't be asked to carry the Lakers all by himself. If Bosh is your third-best player, you're a ing powerhouse. Gasol was considered pretty damn soft himself when he was in Memphis. If I'm Mitch Kupchak, I wouldn't consider a Bynum/Bosh swap if Bynum could stay healthy. But that's not the reality we're facing.

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