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    The notion that the Big 10 was scoffed by Texas is ing re ed. I'm sure they gave it a long, hard look. Much like the DJohn sucks every night before hitting the sack.

    Not true. The first conference realignment talk this offseason was weeks after the championship game. The rumor was Texas and some spare B12 teams to the Big 10.

    The only accurate source in this entire scenario said from the start that Texas brass laughed their asses off at the thought of the Big 10 suckering them in. From a money and logistical standpoint it makes no sense for Texas to join the Big 10. Unless they somehow shifted the money part of the equation so drastically towards Texas' favor. Which was highly improbable.


    Texas joining the Big 10 is a total ing myth. No way the most dominant program in the country completely shifts its logistics and entire world for some money to be the sole south member of the Big 10. They could make comparable money and be part of many with the Pac 10.

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    Never an option???

    You mean if some came to you and offered you way more money you wouldn't even listen. Sounds like someone has positioned themselves to close to Chip Brown's .




    UT only wanted the Big 12 around because it had the most control and had the possibility of starting up its own network. If you think UT wanted the Big 12 to stick together for any other reason you definitely rode the short bus as a child.




    That is laughable. Is Texas scared of a little cold weather, from your perspective it sounds like are. The average temperature in November in Ohio is in the upper 40s, not bad at all. Besides UT had to play in Ames, Lincoln, Manhattan, Columbia, Boulder which all can have cold days.

    What is laughable is that pidly ole Northwestern makes double in TV revenue than what the largest revenue producing school in the country does.




    Yeah because that Pac-10 network in the worst time zone is in exactly how many households?


    I wish UT the best. I would have liked them in the Big 10 but I understand why they would go to the Pac-10 as well. Maybe we will see them in the Rose Bowl sometime soon, if it still exists (of course it will).
    You are being contrarian for its own sake. I said Texas wanted to keep the big 12 alive to make a texas network and you repeated exactly what I said as if you were proving some sort of point. Wow way to make yourself look like a total hole.

    No ing way Texas was ever joining the big 10 based on the money figures thrown around thus far. Unless they somehow came up with millions and millions more to shift the equation, it was always a ing joke. It was a tool Texas used to sit there, do nothing, and get an offer from the pac10 that it could fall back on if the Big 12 (seemingly inevitably) fell apart.

    You're thinking in dream land if you seriously can even imagine a college football season where Texas is in a conference with Iowa, Michigan, and Ohio State. Makes no sense brah.

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    actually alot of recruits make their initial decision based on what conference theyd like to play in rather than the school theyre playing for. A&M signing with the SEC would really help with recruiting efforts in texas for texas highschoolers who want to play in the SEC (which are alot). thats how teams like arkansas and lsu stay on top of recruiting.

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    At the same time, Texas hs players do not mind heading out west. Stanford has Luck. OSU has a couple. Arizona State and Arizona who loves Houston's basketball talent has to feel giddy right now that they now have an excuse of going to Texas to recruit more now. I think these two teams will get better and become more relevant.

    Texas will play most of it's games in the Central time zone and Mountain time zone.

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    from ESPN

    AUSTIN, Texas -- Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State will join the Pac-10 Conference when a formal offer is made, a source told ESPN's Joe Schad on Friday.

    Texas A&M, The Austin American-Statesman reported, is torn between joining the Pac-10 or Southeastern Conference. The Aggies will have a 72-hour timetable to decide whether to accept the Pac-10's offer, the newspaper reported.

    A formal offer from the Pac-10 could come as soon as this weekend, the newspaper reported.

    Another source with knowledge of the situation confirmed to ESPN.com's Andy Katz that Texas A&M was looking at the SEC, but the source said he is convinced the Aggies will end up in the Pac-10.

    The source said the SEC consideration was fueled by "ego purposes" within Texas A&M, that the Aggies' power brokers sought distance from the Texas decision and didn't want to convey the appearance they were doing everything because of Texas.

    Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe said Friday he is still working to convince the remaining 10 members to stay put.

    "We're working with all those members. We've had a lot of positive feedback about the desire of those ins utions to [stay] together," Beebe said. "There's been a lot of speculation about people going west ... I'm going all the way to the final whistle. I'm playing it out as hard and fast as I can."

    Texas is considered the linchpin to the Big 12's survival, particularly after the league lost Nebraska (Big Ten) and Colorado (Pac-10) in a matter of two days this week. The Texas regents said they will hold a meeting in Austin on Tuesday for "discussion and appropriate action regarding athletic conference membership."

    Iowa State president Gregory Geoffroy said the future of the Big 12 was up to Texas.

    "If the University of Texas were to decide that they want to be a member of the Big 12, then I'm confident the Big 12 would stay together," he said. "If the University of Texas decides they do not wish to and wish to do something else, then I think the conference will be greatly altered."

    Longhorns athletic director DeLoss Dodds has said he wants to keep the Big 12 together. It was not immediately clear if scheduling the regents meeting meant those efforts have failed.

    "Our goals and hopes all along have been to keep the Big 12 Conference intact," Dodds said in a statement. "It is both premature and inappropriate to speculate on what our UT System Regents will discuss at next Tuesday's meeting. But, as the dynamics of the Big 12 continue to change around us, we will utilize additional time to continue our work and evaluate our options."

    Texas Tech has also scheduled a special board of regents meeting for Tuesday, at which the formalization of an acceptance to the Pac-10 could occur, the Big 12 source told ESPN.

    The athletic director of Texas' longtime interstate rival, Oklahoma, said if the Longhorns were to announce they were committed to staying in the Big 12, the other teams left would likely remain, too.

    "Behind the scenes, we're talking about all the different kinds of strategies and plans that would prove that point," Oklahoma AD Joe Castiglione told The Oklahoman on Thursday.

    Oklahoma, Baylor and Kansas have been gathering information about the fiscal viability of keeping the conference alive with 10 teams, a Big 12 source told ESPN's Schad. In that scenario the conference would sacrifice a conference le game. They are exploring the television ramifications as well.

    "We have a very, very strong sense from our television partners that the revenue stream would be very, very good going forward," Castiglione told The Oklahoman. "Better than where we are today."

    A source familiar with the Pac-10's plans told ESPN that the SEC's interest in Texas A&M and Oklahoma is "real." Another source within the Big 12 said Texas A&M does not necessarily feel it should be required to be attached to the Longhorns.

    Texas A&M president R. Bowen Loftin told The Associated Press that the rapid changes are forcing the school to consider its options.

    "We're still working through the issues," Loftin said. "We're also waiting to see what happens with other schools. We were very happy to stay in the Big 12, the way it was. It's changing now, and we need to figure out what that means.

    "The Big 12 is not what it was, and we have to think about its future, and ours."

    Baylor athletic director Ian McCaw reiterated his school's desire for the four Texas teams from the Big 12 to "remain aligned" in the same conference -- preferably the Big 12. Baylor, the league's only private school, would likely be left behind if Texas, Texas A&M and Texas Tech leave for other leagues.

    "We're focused on keeping the Big 12 together and maintaining the rivalries that we've enjoyed with our four Big 12 Texas brothers," he said. "Those traditions go over the last 100 years and we certainly want to do everything we can to maintain those rivalries within the conference structure. "

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    looks to be a done deal...Now it's the SEC's and Big10's turn

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    honestly, I threw up a little in my mouth when I saw that ^

    Oh well, I guess the west needs a new doormat, but I shall continue to hold out hope they'll raid the ACC for some real football teams instead.

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    honestly, I threw up a little in my mouth when I saw that ^

    Oh well, I guess the west needs a new doormat, but I shall continue to hold out hope they'll raid the ACC for some real football teams instead.
    Lol. A&M will compete in the conference. Recruiting will only get better also. Our Basketball and Baseball can definitely compete as well.

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    Our Basketball and Baseball can definitely compete as well.
    No doubt about that.

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    Kansas, KSU, Mizzou apparently on the MWC radar now. Would suck for Kansas and their storied basketball program to end up in a mid-major. And Baylor? Poor Baylor, nobody wants them, maybe they should just go the D3 route.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5279018

    The Mountain West Conference was a geographical misnomer from the beginning, as it launched with San Diego State among its eight original teams before adding TCU in 2005 and Boise State on Friday.

    And the conference's reach doesn't appear to be stopping there.

    According to the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, Kansas, Missouri and Kansas State are on the Mountain West's radar amid a continuing shakeup of the Big 12.

    But Baylor isn't considered a candidate to join the conference, with TCU standing staunchly in its way, the Fort Worth newspaper reported, citing unnamed sources.

    "The Mountain West wants to be a national player and continue to grow in that realm," MWC commissioner Craig Thompson said in a conference call with reporters Friday. "We are extremely interested in BCS automatic qualification. We are simply trying to get to the level where each and every year a Mountain West team is playing in a BCS bowl game."

    TCU would mount a lobbying effort against Baylor if the Bears are left out of the conference-realignment mix, the Star-Telegram reported.

    But the conference covets Kansas -- and its legendary basketball program.

    "Look at it this way," Jayhawks coach Bill Self said Friday at a charity event, according to The Kansas City Star. "No matter what, I'm 100 percent confident we're going to land. And we may land in a group that gives us more exposure than we ever could have had before. We may land with somebody that opens up recruiting doors in areas that we never really tested before. We're not gonna lose what we already have. This may open up new avenues for us."

    New avenues are assured for most -- if not all -- of the Big 12.

    Colorado left Thursday for the Pac-10 and Nebraska moved to the Big Ten a day later. Texas and the four other programs, not including Baylor, that make up the Big 12 South in football are leaning heavily toward a commitment to the Pac-10, or in Texas A&M's case, a possible jump to the SEC.

    "We are gonna be in a BCS conference," Self said, according to the newspaper.

    But count Self among those who still believe in the viability of the Big 12.

    "If this league is held together," Self said, "we'll go get two teams or six teams and this league will be better than it ever has been."

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    sec has no interest in a&m lmao a&m ed themselves cause now pac 10 wants kansas
    http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/texas-...deadline-28519

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    sec has no interest in a&m lmao a&m ed themselves cause now pac 10 wants kansas
    http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/texas-...deadline-28519
    LOL baylor fan.

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    sec has no interest in a&m lmao a&m ed themselves cause now pac 10 wants kansas
    http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/texas-...deadline-28519


    TAMU still has a standing offer from the PAC.

    The MWC doesn't even want Baylor.

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    i take that back a&m will get an invite to the sec, the mwc does not want baylor damn

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    i take that back a&m will get an invite to the sec, the mwc does not want baylor damn
    It's ok im sure the sun belt will take you guys.

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    i take that back a&m will get an invite to the sec, the mwc does not want baylor damn
    You still have the WAC and C-USA.

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    i take that back a&m will get an invite to the sec, the mwc does not want baylor damn
    Can't blame it on talent...except for football, Baylor competes well in pretty much every sport. Baseball, basketball...you name it, they're there. It's about the money. The Waco market is not exactly New York or Los Angeles.

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    This is getting stupid, the Pacific conference is interested in Kansas? God the Arizona schools should be up in arms against all of this but it won't matter. On top of a football powerhouse that'll stop them from any chance at a conference le in UT, now they'll have a basketball powerhouse that'll make it nearly impossible for them to win a conference le there as well. .

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    This is getting stupid, the Pacific conference is interested in Kansas? God the Arizona schools should be up in arms against all of this but it won't matter. On top of a football powerhouse that'll stop them from any chance at a conference le in UT, now they'll have a basketball powerhouse that'll make it nearly impossible for them to win a conference le there as well. .
    Bill Self is dirty as , so I'm not concerned longterm with him at Kansas. It's only a matter of time. His nickname for the last decade hasn't been $elf for no reason.

    There's a way around this. For basketball, you eliminate all divisions. You play your geographic rival twice per year then play 7 of the remaining 14 teams twice (home and home) one year, the other 7 the next year. This puts them at 16 conference games, only two less than their previous conference schedules. Make that up with more non-Conference.

    This way nobody has to play Kansas every year. The SOS and RPI would be ridiculous. It's almost worth doing for that. Also, we'll have an new ESPN contract, so there would be more recruiting advantages there, especially within the NY market, of which Arizona has the biggest in.

    Personally, I go with Utah. Good basketball, very good football.

    AZ schools are screwed in football, to be sure, unless they go 4-team divisions and put AZ in the Colorado/Utah division.

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    If they do that for basketball then I'm not concerned, but if divisions cut off AZ's connection to Cali schools then you can kiss the possibility of ever being an elite basketball school again goodbye. One thing AZ schools need to do is lock up the growing talent that's coming out of Arizona. My worst nightmare is seeing Royce Woolridge playing against Arizona a few years from now on Kansas when UA coulda more than used Royce since he has more intelligence in his elbow than Momo Jones has in his brain.
    Last edited by DUNCANownsKOBE2; 06-12-2010 at 08:22 PM.

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    I agree. Woolridge was lost during Arizona's transitional phases. Arizona has done (and will be doing) a very good job of securing the top talent in the state, which isn't Elite, but is high enough in quality and large enough in quan y to form the foundation of a contending core with a coach like Miller. Keep NY's pipeline as strong as they can for as long as Book is here, and with a game or two every year or every other year in Texas and California, Arizona should pull in enough to make up the remainder of the roster. There's a lot of quality ins right now.

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    If Texas to the PAC16 is a done deal, why did Chip Brown have a "What's Next For Texas?" article on OB?

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    If Texas to the PAC16 is a done deal, why did Chip Brown have a "What's Next For Texas?" article on OB?
    Don't know. What did it say? When I visited this morning, the first article was on A&M to SEC (likely), touched on how A&M is recruiting Oklahoma, who prefers SEC over Pac, but not without Texas and Oklahoma State, the latter of which has more votes in government and would not break up the two state schools.

    The only other Chip Brown article was how Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State are going to announce their commitment to the Pac on Tuesday, and lists the options for A&M's spot.

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    As a Tech student, this is pretty exciting. With their weak out of conference scheduling every year there was never a chance of a team like USC ever coming to Lubbock. Now i'll get to see it happen. And if USC can build themselves back up can you imagine the crossmatches?

    USC going to Austin, Norman

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