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    I'm not a troll.. you guys clearly haven't payed attention to what top five point guards that aren't in the Nash/Williams/ Paul grouping have got back in recent trades.. there are enough trades there for you to get an idea.. there was even one trade of a finals MVP point that you can go base it on.

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    Anyways I'm done.. Do I think it's possible for you to get one of those for Parker.. yeah although I tend to think Harris would be more likely than the third.. Both of them though for Parker? Give me a break.

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    Blue.. minus the duncan one is all stuff that I have read in you forums.. Though I threw nash in there because I couldn't really think of anyone else.. if you read the first post in the thread you would realize that I didn't just come up with that off the top of my head.

    Like I said reverse your question. If Parker is not less than Harris and the third what exactly is he worth to you? That answer in its self should be much more entertaining than my answer to that question in reverse.
    For forward thinkers (yeah, I know, what an immensely shocking concept), the TP years are numbered. The Spurs staple has always been a superior inside presence and when the axis began to shift towards a guard dominated offense, well, you see the results. This trade would give the Spurs a raw talent which may or may not turn out to be another big they can hitch their wagon to for another 10 years.

    Simply put, the Spurs can't hitch their wagon to Parker at all, much less for another 10 years.

    As for Harris? Well, we do need a PG after all. He's just filler as far as Spur fans are concerned (yeah, yeah I know his real value is more, but I'm speaking from a lay-fan perspective).

    Why would NJ do it? Possibly for the reasons I outlined in my posts above. Parker is a known quan y with extensive playoff experience, precisely what a raw young team needs running the show He also still has a few years left at this level.

    By the way, I'd assume that NJ would want the #20 from us as well. So in my mind, this would go down: Parker/#20 for Harris/#3.

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    I'm not a troll.. you guys clearly haven't payed attention to what top five point guards that aren't in the Nash/Williams/ Paul grouping have got back in recent trades.. there are enough trades there for you to get an idea.. there was even one trade of a finals MVP point that you can go base it on.
    Yea, after watching Detroit throw away Billups for Allen Iverson I'm sure such a perspective would be understandable. Then again this is also the same NBA where you can get Pau Gasol for Kwame Brown and Pau's fat and unknown brother.

    Is there a trade featuring a top 3-5 PG in his prime thats also a Finals MVP to draw reference from? But yea I agree that its going to take Parker plus Blair to grab both Harris and the #3 pick. Having Avery Johnson probably means NJ isn't shipping Harris out then again having Avery Johnson means having a friend on the east coast for potential trades as well. Parker's contract is also an expiring which coincides with NJ's timetable of shifting to Brooklyn and possibly making another run at a premier FA in the near future.

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    Yea, after watching Detroit throw away Billups for Allen Iverson I'm sure such a perspective would be understandable. Then again this is also the same NBA where you can get Pau Gasol for Kwame Brown and Pau's fat and unknown brother.

    Is there a trade featuring a top 3-5 PG in his prime thats also a Finals MVP to draw reference from? But yea I agree that its going to take Parker plus Blair to grab both Harris and the #3 pick. Having Avery Johnson probably means NJ isn't shipping Harris out then again having Avery Johnson means having a friend on the east coast for potential trades as well. Parker's contract is also an expiring which coincides with NJ's timetable of shifting to Brooklyn and possibly making another run at a premier FA in the near future.
    I agree in general, but I doubt that Avery will be calling personnel shots. I'll bet the Ruski will be Cuban-esque in his day-to-day operation of that team.

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    Yea, after watching Detroit throw away Billups for Allen Iverson I'm sure such a perspective would be understandable. Then again this is also the same NBA where you can get Pau Gasol for Kwame Brown and Pau's fat and unknown brother.

    Is there a trade featuring a top 3-5 PG in his prime thats also a Finals MVP to draw reference from? But yea I agree that its going to take Parker plus Blair to grab both Harris and the #3 pick. Having Avery Johnson probably means NJ isn't shipping Harris out then again having Avery Johnson means having a friend on the east coast for potential trades as well. Parker's contract is also an expiring which coincides with NJ's timetable of shifting to Brooklyn and possibly making another run at a premier FA in the near future.
    I agree, but the way i read this "rumor" was NJ made the proposal and Harris was the assumed other piece to make it fit salary cap wise. Which should make it a little easier to digest for those looking at it from a talent vs talent perspective.

    I was optimistic about this til they announced Johnson as the coach, he loves Harris and was upset when he was part of the Kidd trade.

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