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    By Ralph K.M. Haurwitz and Kirk Bohls AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF

    Updated: 1:14 a.m. Saturday, June 12, 2010

    Published: 10:35 p.m. Friday, June 11, 2010


    The University of Texas is virtually certain to abandon the Big 12 Conference for the Pacific-10 Conference when its governing board meets Tuesday. Texas Tech University is expected to follow along.

    Texas A&M University officials apparently are undecided on joining the Pac-10 or the Southeastern Conference. Baylor University's prospects for joining the Pac-10 remain bleak. And the Big 12 is history.

    That, in a nuts , is how the high-stakes, high-dollar game of college athletics conference realignment — Texas edition — is shaping up this weekend after Friday's announcement that the University of Nebraska will leave the Big 12 for the Big Ten. A day earlier, the University of Colorado said it will quit the Big 12 for the Pac-10.

    One highly placed Big 12 school official said there was no doubt that league members UT, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State would join the Pac-10.

    "The decision has been made," he told the American-Statesman. "We're bringing everybody to the Pac-10 but A&M."

    The official said that formal offers could be made over the weekend and that the Aggies could still decide to go along. If the Aggies don't go, he said, the Pac-10 would consider including Kansas or Utah as a replacement.

    The ongoing shake-up in college sports has national implications for which schools will be in the major conferences and therefore in the best position to participate in lucrative television contracts as well as football bowl games and NCAA basketball tournament appearances.

    The shake-up also may have political ramifications. As the workweek ended, the state House Higher Education Committee called a hearing for 10 a.m. Wednesday "to discuss matters pertaining to higher education, including collegiate athletics."

    The official message from the UT camp on Friday was one of studied uncertainty regarding what might happen when the Board of Regents meets at 11 a.m. Tuesday in Ashbel Smith Hall , the UT System's headquarters in downtown Austin.

    "It is both premature and inappropriate to speculate on what our UT System regents will discuss at next Tuesday's meeting," said DeLoss Dodds, the men's athletics director.

    Colleen McHugh, chairman of the regents, declined to comment. "It's (standard operating procedure) that the regents don't discuss matters before meeting," said her spokesman, Anthony de Bruyn.

    Texas Tech regents have called a meeting for 2 p.m. Tuesday, at which they are expected to sign on to the Pac-10. A spokeswoman for Kent Hance , chancellor of the Texas Tech University System, said he had no comment, but the university issued a statement saying it has been committed to supporting the Big 12.

    "However," the statement said, "there are significant ongoing conversations, and we will make a decision in the best interest of the university at the appropriate time."

    A&M's regents have not scheduled a meeting.

    The Big 12 school official said that A&M President R. Bowen Loftin wants to explore joining the SEC but that the Aggies' athletic director, Bill Byrne, wants to go to the Pac-10. A&M's regents also have not reached a consensus.

    Despite such differences, the Pac-10 option would seem to be more likely not only because it would avoid disrupting the Aggies' storied rivalry with the Longhorns but also because SEC powerhouses Alabama and Florida would be formidable opponents for a football squad that has struggled of late.

    Nebraska's departure from the Big 12, even more so than Colorado's exit on Thursday, dims the league's prospects for attracting the mix of fans, TV viewers and national buzz that drives the college sports enterprise.

    The Pac-10 is arguably the best fit for UT. True, the Big Ten's academic profile is appealing: All of its member ins utions belong to the Association of American Universities , the elite club of major research universities. But Penn State, Minnesota and other Big Ten schools are far away, both culturally and geographically, from Austin.

    If the Pac-10 realignment plays out as expected, UT would be in a division that includes five other schools from the Big 12 — Colorado, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech and, possibly, A&M — and Arizona and Arizona State.

    The academic pedigree of that division doesn't match up to that of the Big Ten — Texas Tech, Arizona State and Oklahoma State are not AAU members — but the other members of the Pac-10 include some of the nation's leading ins utions, such as Stanford, UCLA and the University of California, Berkeley.

    http://www.statesman.com/news/local/...10-742900.html

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    Updated: June 13, 2010, 3:40 PM ETSource: Big 12 pushing projected valueEmail Print Comments47 By Joe Schad
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    As part of his strategy to keep the Big 12 together, commissioner Dan Beebe is trying to convince Texas -- the key -- and other schools that a 10-team model would still provide strong television revenue, a source familiar with Beebe's plan said Sunday.

    Beebe has been told that the loss of Nebraska and Colorado could diminish the value of the league by as little as 8 to 10 percent.

    Beebe is stressing the value of sharing revenue with fewer schools and collecting and distributing the departure penalties of Nebraska and Colorado, the source said.

    Secondary elements of the pitch include keeping natural rivalries intact and considering the interests of both fans and student-athletes.

    Under the plan, Texas could still conceivably pursue its own TV deal, something it would not be able to do in the Pac-10.

    Schools in favor of keeping the Big 12 together are suggesting the Pac 10's plan is based largely on projections and that it's unclear exactly when a Pac-10 Network would launch and how successful it would be.

    Officials from five Big 12 schools -- Kansas, Missouri, Kansas State, Iowa State and Baylor -- had a conference call on Saturday, The Kansas City Star reported. The schools agreed they would like to continue as members of the Big 12.

    Board of regents from Texas and Texas Tech each plan to weigh conference-affiliation plans Tuesday, while Oklahoma's board will discuss its future on Wednesday.

    Joe Schad covers college football for ESPN.

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    Texas is getting VERY worried that OU will go with the Aggies instead of the Horns to the SEC. That would be the absolute worst case scenario for Texas. In my opinion, this is all a play by the SEC to try to get what they really want: A&M/Texas or A&M/Texas/OU/OSU. They know that A&M and OU would prefer the SEC over the Pac 10. They know that Texas desperately wants to avoid going to the SEC, but Texas also desperately needs to maintain their control over their destiny. The SEC has found the sweet spot and they are making their push. How will Texas respond? Sounds like they will try to be the "hero" and hold the Big 12 together. We all know what the reality is, but the press clippings would all paint the horns as a hero...

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    I think the only thing Texas is worried about is getting the best deal they can. I doubt they are sitting behind closed doors thinking about where everyone else goes. I would also believe that the powers that be in College Station and Norman are doing the same thing. In the end, its all about the cash. Can't say for sure though...I do not know what is actually going on in the minds of those in charge at the three school...no one here does. All we can do is speculate.

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    I think the only thing Texas is worried about is getting the best deal they can. I doubt they are sitting behind closed doors thinking about where everyone else goes. I would also believe that the powers that be in College Station and Norman are doing the same thing. In the end, its all about the cash. Can't say for sure though...I do not know what is actually going on in the minds of those in charge at the three school...no one here does. All we can do is speculate.
    I'll just be happy when it's all over.

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    I'll just be happy when it's all over.
    Me too.

    Whatever the outcome, I don't see the UT-A&M rivalry going away. There would be too much of an outcry.

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    Me too.

    Whatever the outcome, I don't see the UT-A&M rivalry going away. There would be too much of an outcry.
    I sure hope not. Even if they were in different conferences they would have too much political pressure and pressure from their own alumni not to play the lone star showdown on thanksgiving or t+1

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    Texas is getting VERY worried that OU will go with the Aggies instead of the Horns to the SEC. That would be the absolute worst case scenario for Texas. In my opinion, this is all a play by the SEC to try to get what they really want: A&M/Texas or A&M/Texas/OU/OSU. They know that A&M and OU would prefer the SEC over the Pac 10. They know that Texas desperately wants to avoid going to the SEC, but Texas also desperately needs to maintain their control over their destiny. The SEC has found the sweet spot and they are making their push. How will Texas respond? Sounds like they will try to be the "hero" and hold the Big 12 together. We all know what the reality is, but the press clippings would all paint the horns as a hero...
    The reality is that Texas has the easiest path to a BCS game of any school in the country, and OU has the second easiest. Colorado's le nine years ago was the last one of any of the three schools looking to leave. I believe the north is 4-10 against the south and one of those wins belongs to K-State and one to A&M. So either UT and OU has advanced to a BCS game nine times in 14 years, and CU/NU have three.

    OU has it made where they are at. Going into that meat grinder plus having to recruit most of your kids to your elite level program from another state with a minimal presence in conference is a recipe for disaster. I think they'll follow Texas damn near anywhere and for good reason.

    A&M needs to go. I got ripped to shreds on OB for this but this is your best bet to build something great on your own and not be a one year wonder, and truly compete with UT/OU for those top guys.

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    The reality is that Texas has the easiest path to a BCS game of any school in the country, and OU has the second easiest. Colorado's le nine years ago was the last one of any of the three schools looking to leave. I believe the north is 4-10 against the south and one of those wins belongs to K-State and one to A&M. So either UT and OU has advanced to a BCS game nine times in 14 years, and CU/NU have three.

    OU has it made where they are at. Going into that meat grinder plus having to recruit most of your kids to your elite level program from another state with a minimal presence in conference is a recipe for disaster. I think they'll follow Texas damn near anywhere and for good reason.

    A&M needs to go. I got ripped to shreds on OB for this but this is your best bet to build something great on your own and not be a one year wonder, and truly compete with UT/OU for those top guys.
    I agree 100% and I really hope they can agree to play an OOC game every year still because by no means do I want the rivalry to stop.

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    I just hope they don't end up ting away the Texas rivalries. I'd prefer to see the big 12 reorganize and bring in one or more of the old SWC teams. Baylor's finally moving in the right direction, but it seems to be way too late.

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    I saw mention on some board that the SEC was considering bringing in Baylor along with A&M for 'political considerations,' but they didn't cite their source, and there's probably nothing to it. O_V, didn't you use to be a Texas fan, or am I thinking of someone else?

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    Maybe the Big 12 and Big 10 just trade names?

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    Me too.

    Whatever the outcome, I don't see the UT-A&M rivalry going away. There would be too much of an outcry.
    I thought that at first, but apparently UT is getting very pissed that A&M is wanting to go their own way.

    It might be 50/50 at this point like anything else at the moment

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    I thought that at first, but apparently UT is getting very pissed that A&M is wanting to go their own way.

    It might be 50/50 at this point like anything else at the moment
    If that's the case, then they are being stupid.

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    I thought that at first, but apparently UT is getting very pissed that A&M is wanting to go their own way.

    It might be 50/50 at this point like anything else at the moment
    If that's the case, then they are being stupid.
    Worst case scenario I could see Texas not agree to play the game for a couple years while holding a grudge but eventually get over it. To much $$ in that game. It would be an even bigger game for the media since they are out of conference teams IMO. Not only would it be "Who's the better team" but "Who's the better conference" as well.

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    remaining teams from the Big 12 invite all the teams from the MWC, then rename themselves the MWC, "MWC" now has automatic bid...

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    Worst case scenario I could see Texas not agree to play the game for a couple years while holding a grudge but eventually get over it. To much $$ in that game. It would be an even bigger game for the media since they are out of conference teams IMO. Not only would it be "Who's the better team" but "Who's the better conference" as well.
    How much money does Texas make from a home game with Baylor as opposed to Aggy?

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    Maybe the Big 12 and Big 10 just trade names?
    No reason. The Big10 can't count. They will find a way to work any number into 10.

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    How much money does Texas make from a home game with Baylor as opposed to Aggy?
    Not sure about Texas, but I'd assume they charge more for "premium" games.

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    Oh, and here's a humbling graphic, Aggies. Your replacement, Kansas, brings more money to the table than you do.


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    Oh, and here's a humbling graphic, Aggies. Your replacement, Kansas, brings more money to the table than you do.

    dude, Aggy is in debt. They need SEC money.

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    if this all does eventually leads us to 4 super-conferences, all of whom will then want 2 automatic bids, the BCS should just drop down to 4 games again instead. how lame will all those conference championships be if both teams will go to a BCS bowl anyways?

    4 bowls, 4 automatic bids, an extra automatic bid to the conference(s) that send a team to the NCG, and then 2 at large bids

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    I keep hearing about the four superconferences who's the 4th supposed to be

    1 Pac"16"
    2 SEC
    3 Big10
    4 ????

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    I keep hearing about the four superconferences who's the 4th supposed to be

    1 Pac"16"
    2 SEC
    3 Big10
    4 ????
    Combination of Big East and ACC I think.

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