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  1. #76
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    All rite, im out

    Lakernation implodes 34 hours in counting...

  2. #77
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    Buh, bye.

    lmvictoriousao!

    Next!!!!

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    LOL cully ...this dude is hilarious ... what if Kobe has 5 rings it will be well 3 of them are Shaq's ...LMAO

    Sad and desperate please put him out of his misery you ENJOY this stuff ...me I just

    Shake my head at the poor misguided souls ...lashing out at Kobe because their june runs are over ....

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    LOL cully ...this dude is hilarious ... what if Kobe has 5 rings it will be well 3 of them are Shaq's ...LMAO

    Sad and desperate please put him out of his misery you ENJOY this stuff ...me I just

    Shake my head at the poor misguided souls ...lashing out at Kobe because their june runs are over ....
    I do enjoy it. Gives me a chance to break some ass, and it ain't life & death. Anything that ain't life & death is a blast.

  5. #80
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    I don't think this series is Kobe's fault. He played a of a game last night, and no one else on his team showed up. Kobe was visibly pissed, and he had the right to be.

    It's like last year when Bonner and Mason didn't show up for the playoffs. It wasn't Duncan and Parker's fault, those guys showed up to play, Bonner and Mason didn't.

    It's stupid to blast Kobe because his teammates are no shows.

  6. #81
    Bernoullin' niggas! BUMP's Avatar
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    bottom line is this......

    Kobe is easily the best player in this series.

    But, how did the Lakers get here? By Kobe chucking up 30 shots a game?

    No, they play through Gasol, Odom, Bynum and the other guys. Now that Kobe is so close to his 5th he thinks he needs to prove a message. He is such a great talent that he will make some of those impossible shots but he doesn't shoot a great percentage and it just hurts the team.


    You can't dominate the offense and then all of a sudden expect your teammates to turn it on after you've tuned them out all game. They're already out of their rhythm. The Lakers are at their best when Gasol is getting 20, Bynum getting 10, Odom 15, and Artest around 10. That's the only way they'll win this series, but unfortunately I can't see Kobe getting past his ego and you know he's gonna want to put on a show in front of their home crowd which will end in their demise.

  7. #82
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    I don't think this series is Kobe's fault. He played a of a game last night, and no one else on his team showed up. Kobe was visibly pissed, and he had the right to be.

    It's like last year when Bonner and Mason didn't show up for the playoffs. It wasn't Duncan and Parker's fault, those guys showed up to play, Bonner and Mason didn't.

    It's stupid to blast Kobe because his teammates are no shows.
    Honest and FAIR assessment ...

    Kobe did not start shooting until the game started slipping away ...

  8. #83
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    You can't dominate the offense and then all of a sudden expect your teammates to turn it on after you've tuned them out all game. They're already out of their rhythm. The Lakers are at their best when Gasol is getting 20, Bynum getting 10, Odom 15, and Artest around 10. That's the only way they'll win this series, but unfortunately I can't see Kobe getting past his ego and you know he's gonna want to put on a show in front of their home crowd which will end in their demise.
    So what happens like last night when he played facilitator the first half and his teammates didnt show up.

    Should he not go nuts at the third OR just keep forcing it to his teamamtes and then be called out for giving up like Lebron game 5?

  9. #84
    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    Kobe went on a tear but then he jacked up every shot possible when they pulled in close with his onslaught of points. He should have started dishing it when they got close and they were doubling him off the picks and on the perimeter. Instead he decides to jack it up in triple team
    yah he shoulda passed it out to Artest and Odom for the THREE! Or maybe to Gasol so he can shoot a jumpshot.

  10. #85
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    KB isnt a choker....now the guys that play well thats a whole other issue

    Originally Posted by RenaldoBalkman
    Kobe went on a tear but then he jacked up every shot possible when they pulled in close with his onslaught of points. He should have started dishing it when they got close and they were doubling him off the picks and on the perimeter. Instead he decides to jack it up in triple team

    what do you expect him to do? pass it to a mediocre player so he can miss it? well KB can shot it and probably has a better shot of making it.

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    ^ That is Parker!!!

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    Off topic but where is that milkshakeballa got?

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    Off topic but where is that milkshakeballa got?
    He's visiting Luva at the County Lockup.

  14. #89
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    ALL-TIME FINALS CHOKERS!!!!!

    1. Elgin Baylor (Never won a le)

    2. Wilt Chamberlain (he was always Russels "B")

    3. Karl Malone (missed free throw and getting the ball stolen from MJ)

    4. Kobe Bryant (if he not able to beat the Celtics in 2 tries)

    5. Nick Anderson (choked on the FT line)

    Nuff said....not gay!

  15. #90
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    bottom line is this......

    Kobe is easily the best player in this series.

    But, how did the Lakers get here? By Kobe chucking up 30 shots a game?
    LA got to the Finals by playing sissy teams that they bullied into submission with their size and length. Now the shoe is on the other foot. LA are the ones getting bullied...Kobe included. Other than his 7 minute hot streak against Ray Allen the rest of the game he played like with turnovers, ty rotations on defense, and dumb fouls. Tony Allen is bullying his ass all over the place and getting him out of his comfort spots just like Wallace, Big Baby, and Garnett are doing to Gasol.

    LA is at their absolute best when everyone is moving and Kobe is mixing up the offense either getting quality shots or getting into the paint drawing attention and finding one of his bigs diving to the rim for an easy two. When is the last time you saw Kobe get in the paint and kick it to Pau right at the rim for an easy bucket? LA did that constantly against 6'9 wonders Amare and Boozer and whatever no-name OKC had but you don't see any of that against the Celtics. Boston has turned LA's offense completely stagnant where it's come to the point where even a simple pass is difficult and as a result there's a lot more one on one ball than usual. You can see in every game as this series goes on the Lakers are wearing down mentally and physically. The Celtics are slow-cooking their asses.

    And yes, Phil Jackson is getting out-coached because he can see what I'm seeing but so far hasn't done a damn thing about it. I'm guessing he's depending on HCA as well.

  16. #91
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    Once Kobe got in his zone, he went into complete scoring mode last night. Once the Celtics keyed in on this, he never went back to creating mode. Even if your teammates are playing badly, its still MUCH better to go with Gasol taking and potentially missing a shot going 1-on-1 against Big Baby or Jordan Farmar getting a shot at a wide open three, as opposed to driving into 4 guys and expecting to consistently score. its better to create high percentage shots for others (even if they may not be playing well), as opposed to taking and missing low percentage shots. all it takes is for 1 shot to go down for someone to get going, and all it takes is 1 miss for someone to go cold. the latter was shown last night, as after kobe went on his hot streak, and then launched a long 3 that went in and out, and suddenly his streak was over and he went to missing all those tough shots he was hitting at first.

    Gasol getting a measly 12 attempts is unacceptable. Kobe missing more shots than any other player took in total, is unacceptable. and that falls on Kobe. its his job to get the best out of his team, especially being the high profile player that he is. instead of trying to get his teammates hot by giving them their wide open looks, and allowing people to shoot high percentage shots, he resorted to taking a plethora of low percentage shots, simply because he was "feeling it" for a while. especially against a dominant defensive team like the Celtics.

    granted, it wasnt entirely kobes fault that the Lakers lost, but he definitely had an equally big part in the lakers losing, as he did in keeping them alive when he was on fire for a bit.

  17. #92
    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    Gasol getting a measly 12 attempts is unacceptable. Kobe missing more shots than any other player took in total, is unacceptable. and that falls on Kobe. its his job to get the best out of his team, especially being the high profile player that he is. instead of trying to get his teammates hot by giving them their wide open looks, and allowing people to shoot high percentage shots, he resorted to taking a plethora of low percentage shots, simply because he was "feeling it" for a while. especially against a dominant defensive team like the Celtics.
    Question. When was the last time Gasol scored 1v1 in the post?

  18. #93
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    Once Kobe got in his zone, he went into complete scoring mode last night. Once the Celtics keyed in on this, he never went back to creating mode. Even if your teammates are playing badly, its still MUCH better to go with Gasol taking and potentially missing a shot going 1-on-1 against Big Baby or Jordan Farmar getting a shot at a wide open three, as opposed to driving into 4 guys and expecting to consistently score. its better to create high percentage shots for others (even if they may not be playing well), as opposed to taking and missing low percentage shots. all it takes is for 1 shot to go down for someone to get going, and all it takes is 1 miss for someone to go cold. the latter was shown last night, as after kobe went on his hot streak, and then launched a long 3 that went in and out, and suddenly his streak was over and he went to missing all those tough shots he was hitting at first.

    Gasol getting a measly 12 attempts is unacceptable. Kobe missing more shots than any other player took in total, is unacceptable. and that falls on Kobe. its his job to get the best out of his team, especially being the high profile player that he is. instead of trying to get his teammates hot by giving them their wide open looks, and allowing people to shoot high percentage shots, he resorted to taking a plethora of low percentage shots, simply because he was "feeling it" for a while. especially against a dominant defensive team like the Celtics.

    granted, it wasnt entirely kobes fault that the Lakers lost, but he definitely had an equally big part in the lakers losing, as he did in keeping them alive when he was on fire for a bit.
    That falls on Phil Jackson more than Kobe. I said before this series even started that this was an unfavorable matchup for Gasol because of all the bodies Boston can throw at him...and even moreso now that Bynum isn't getting consistent minutes. Pau can't score one on one consistently against these guys in the paint and shouldn't be expected to be. Wallace and KG can match him in length. Big Baby weighs a ton and has nimble feet so Pau can't back him down. Perkins is just a brick wall. And even when Pau does make a move and get to the rim he usually has 2 Celtics waiting for him to alter the shot or stuff it back down his throat. Rather than try to post Pau up against that physical Celtic defense they need to get Gasol on the move and make Boston's defense react. Put Kobe and Pau in the pick and roll and have him either dive to the rim or get to a good spot for a midrange jumper. Just get those Celtic bigs off his ass. It'll have him more involved in the offense where he isn't just standing around and will also give Kobe a more direct target to pass to if he gets up in the air and has nowhere to go. Phil Jackson hasn't made any adjustments whatsoever to counter Boston's defense.

  19. #94
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    Hey, lets be honest guys. Celtics are just the better team this year.
    LOOK at what they did to these teams that were favored to win the series.
    Cavs-played very well and got Lebron out of a rhythm. Played great defense
    Magic-Got the other players like Lewis, Barnes, and Carter out of a rhythm a few games. Did not hurt that they played exceptional defense.
    Lakers-Did what the Suns basically did, but more defense. They let Kobe try to win the game for the Lakers and get other players cold from the field.
    I know alot do not like giving the Celtics any credit, but there's no way that they do so well against arguably the best 3 NBA teams in the league before the playoffs.

  20. #95
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    Hey, lets be honest guys. Celtics are just the better team this year.
    And if they end us I'll have no problem giving them their onions. No problem at all.

    I don't do officiating. I don't do injuries. I don't do collusions.

    It's my religion.

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    And if they end us I'll have no problem giving them their onions. No problem at all.

    I don't do officiating. I don't do injuries. I don't do collusions.

    It's my religion.
    ...Well done

  22. #97
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    Hey, lets be honest guys. Celtics are just the better team this year.LOOK at what they did to these teams that were favored to win the series.
    Cavs-played very well and got Lebron out of a rhythm. Played great defense
    Magic-Got the other players like Lewis, Barnes, and Carter out of a rhythm a few games. Did not hurt that they played exceptional defense.
    Lakers-Did what the Suns basically did, but more defense. They let Kobe try to win the game for the Lakers and get other players cold from the field.
    I know alot do not like giving the Celtics any credit, but there's no way that they do so well against arguably the best 3 NBA teams in the league before the playoffs.
    this. win or lose Celts are a great team ...you cant say someone choked against a GREAT team ...

  23. #98
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    this. win or lose Celts are a great team ...you cant say someone choked against a GREAT team ...
    Qualifying losses is useless and for losers.

    You win OR you lose. That's it. It's over. You simply go back to the drawing board, get more of yer'n and try to be there'n. That's what Magic did after the calamity of '84. That's what Kobe will face 26 years later if we can't end them by Thursday nite.

  24. #99
    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    No, but you dont take double/triple team shots when Odom/Gasol/Artest is open. Well maybe dont pass it to Artest, but pass it to Odom or Gasol if your triple teamed instead of jacking it up.
    you're bull ing us if you claiming Gasol is ever wide open.

  25. #100
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    Wallace has found his place in the sun again...this time thwarting Gasol.........."You got ta fight thru that, Fooker!"

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