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    I didn't specify that until post #48, but that was what I meant all along. In #48:
    Second verse, same as the first.

    Basically, you can go verify for yourself, WC. I ain't defendin some amamie rephrasing you came up with on all your own. Sorry.

    That's your bailiwick: your camel to ride. You ok with that?
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    (incipient whisky drunk)
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    The Petroleum industry was actively opposing efforts by the Obama administration to reverse Bush era rules and improve the safety of offshore drilling. Of course, Bobby Jindal and other Republicans are now demanding that Obama immediately end the moratorium on deep water drilling because they insist that it is safe even as the leak continues!

    As BP PLC defended its handling of the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, do ents show it argued against new, stricter safety rules proposed last year by the U.S. agency that oversees offshore drilling.

    The British oil giant was one of several companies that wrote to the U.S. Minerals Management Service this past September saying additional regulation of the oil industry was unnecessary. In a letter, BP said the current voluntary system of safety procedures was adequate.

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    As BP touted the scale of the cleanup, do ents showed that it was one of several companies that opposed efforts to tighten up safety procedures offshore. Last year, the MMS studied more than 1,400 offshore incidents that led to 41 deaths and hundreds of injuries between 2001 and 2007. Many of them, the MMS found, were linked to factors such as communications failures, a lack of written procedures and the failure of supervisors to enforce existing rules, and proposed mandatory requirements to reduce the number of incidents. That would have replaced a system under which many safety procedures were voluntary.

    In a letter published on the U.S. government Web site Regulations.gov, Richard Morrison, BP's vice president for Gulf of Mexico production, wrote that while BP "is supportive of companies having a system in place to reduce risk, accidents, injuries and spills, we are not supportive of the extensive, prescriptive regulations as proposed in this rule."
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    Yet another 48-hour govt deadline for BP to "do something" has expired today.

    We'll see if the Feds now take over the operation. I'd love the govt to take Reich's suggestion and force BP US into receivership under govt control until the cleanup, not just the leaking, is finished and all damaged parties are paid off from BPs huge horde of cash and assets.
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    Second verse, same as the first.

    Basically, you can go verify for yourself, WC. I ain't defendin some amamie rephrasing you came up with on all your own. Sorry.

    That's your bailiwick: your camel to ride. You ok with that?
    LOL...

    What you haven't seen is that I made my statement thinking in those terms, probably thinking of a different thread. The misunderstanding is my fault, but it appears you wanted to attack my integrity rather than accept the misunderstanding.

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    LOL...

    What you haven't seen is that I made my statement thinking in those terms, probably thinking of a different thread. The misunderstanding is my fault, but it appears you wanted to attack my integrity rather than accept the misunderstanding.
    at WC calling someone out for an ad hominem.

    That's just priceless.

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    LOL...

    What you haven't seen is that I made my statement thinking in those terms, probably thinking of a different thread. The misunderstanding is my fault, but it appears you wanted to attack my integrity rather than accept the misunderstanding.
    To be sure, I never accepted your bona fides on the so-called misunderstanding, but my main point was it's not in my job description to back up your bs, still less to defend your strawmen.

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    ...and you ignored my direct question about the 19 MMS environmental waivers after the Deepwater Horizon explosion.

    You liked them hypothetically. How do they strike you in real life?

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    at WC calling someone out for an ad hominem.

    That's just priceless.
    You can call it that if you want. Get your laughs while you can. Misunderstandings do funny things at times.

    ---add---

    Besides, why not try to make the best of my own mistakes?
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    ...and you ignored my direct question about the 19 MMS environmental waivers after the Deepwater Horizon explosion.

    You liked them hypothetically. How do they strike you in real life?
    I ignored it because I don't know enough about it. Could be truth, might not be. There seems to be a whole lot of CYA and BS on this topic from everyone in the know.

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    As below.
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    There seems to be a whole lot of CYA and BS on this topic from everyone in the know.


    From your lips.

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    U.S. reconsiders Dutch offer to supply oil skimmers

    I wonder if ultra-liberal Greg Sergeant is snickering at Obama like he did Sarah Palin, in an open thread about the speech, when she suggested this.

    9:21 p.m.: Don't miss Sarah Palin's take: She faults the Obama administration for not soliciting the help of "the Dutch," who are "known for dikes and for cleaning up water and for dealing with spills":
    How silly of Sarah Palin to suggest the administration should seek assistance from the "Dutch."

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    How could anyone not snicker at Palin?

    She quit.

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    How silly of Sarah Palin to suggest the administration should seek assistance from the "Dutch."
    No kidding, considering she supposedly knows nothing or foreign affairs.

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    She should buy a house in Louisiana so she can see the spill from her backyard...

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    WASHINGTON (AP) - The House Judiciary Committee says data it has collected shows that BP has paid less than 12 percent of claims submitted by people and businesses arising from the Gulf oil spill.

    The committee said in a statement Friday that only $71 million out of an estimated $600 million had been paid as of Tuesday. In addition, the panel said that BP didn't make any payments in the first two weeks following the explosion and oil spill.

    Michigan Democratic Rep. John Conyers said he's concerned that BP "is stiffing too many victims and shortchanging others."

    The committee said BP hasn't made a single payment for bodily injury or diminished home property value. BP officials did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
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    Typical liberal shakedown. This slush fund is a disgrace. Why does Obama hate America and our troops? Stop the death panels, Obama!!!

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    WASHINGTON (AP) - The House Judiciary Committee says data it has collected shows that BP has paid less than 12 percent of claims submitted by people and businesses arising from the Gulf oil spill.

    The committee said in a statement Friday that only $71 million out of an estimated $600 million had been paid as of Tuesday. In addition, the panel said that BP didn't make any payments in the first two weeks following the explosion and oil spill.

    Michigan Democratic Rep. John Conyers said he's concerned that BP "is stiffing too many victims and shortchanging others."

    The committee said BP hasn't made a single payment for bodily injury or diminished home property value. BP officials did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
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    Question Dan.

    Should claims be paid without verification? Anyone can make a claim. Shouldn't it be checked for legitimacy?

    12% in less than 2 months. Seems rather quick to me.

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    Should claims be paid without verification? Anyone can make a claim. Shouldn't it be checked for legitimacy?

    12% in less than 2 months. Seems rather quick to me.
    Unless your part of the 88% who has lost their only source of income and a primary food source...there should be some verification, but B.P. has a responsibility to play legitimate claims as quickly as possible.....12% seems rather paltry when measured against the level of need in the area...

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