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  1. #76
    Clever got me this far... JMarkJohns's Avatar
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    According to Chip Brown:

    Seems like Big-12 expansion (instead of dissolution) is still in play with TCU and another school looking to be added (maybe Memphis?) in a last ditch attempt to secure an SEC-level TV contract and keep the Conference in tact.

    If it isn't figured out by Monday, Tuesday will likely bring about the four discussed (and possibly A&M) into the Pac-10 fold.

  2. #77
    I hope the Big XII finds some way to stay alive. It'd be a disaster with the bowl bids for a major conference to dissolve.

  3. #78
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    According to Chip Brown:

    Seems like Big-12 expansion (instead of dissolution) is still in play with TCU and another school looking to be added (maybe Memphis?) in a last ditch attempt to secure an SEC-level TV contract and keep the Conference in tact.

    If it isn't figured out by Monday, Tuesday will likely bring about the four discussed (and possibly A&M) into the Pac-10 fold.
    The threat of A&M going SEC and the rising interest and push the SEC is making for OU as well could have Texas rethinking and or making another push to keep the BIG 12 intact.

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    I'm a little conflicted on that. I would probably prefer for the Big 12 to continue, except that I think a move toward 16-team super-conferences makes playoffs more likely. I'm sick of all the BCS crap.

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    Can't blame it on talent...except for football, Baylor competes well in pretty much every sport. Baseball, basketball...you name it, they're there.
    football would be the key reason

  6. #81
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    I'm a little conflicted on that. I would probably prefer for the Big 12 to continue, except that I think a move toward 16-team super-conferences makes playoffs more likely. I'm sick of all the BCS crap.
    I wouldn't mind the BIG12 staying together if we could get 2 nice programs to join. I mean TCU is a nice choice although that would further hurt recruiting for A&M but adding some garbage universities like Houston, Memphis or any teams from sub par conferences I would definitely object.

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    I saw on OB that Beebe is going to present a case where member schools can make 17M a year off a new TV contract. , I hope Texas stays put then. The Okie schools and Tech will love us for the added money, plus the North orphans and Baylor will be grateful for keeping the group alive. I don't give a about Mizzou posturing anymore - Texas and our friends did the same thing. Add in the now 30 million the nine left all get to split after the Ags bolt plus making SEC-style TV money?

    Sign me the up. This is a no-brainer. The conference gets to save the auto BCS bid, too? Let's go take FedEx's 10 million for Memphis while we are at it.

    Going from 7M to 17M a year plus 3M in buyout money sounds like one of a plan.

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    I wouldn't mind the BIG12 staying together if we could get 2 nice programs to join. I mean TCU is a nice choice although that would further hurt recruiting for A&M but adding some garbage universities like Houston, Memphis or any teams from sub par conferences I would definitely object.
    Houston's been better than A&M for a while, likely has a brighter future than Texas Tech, and brings in the fourth biggest television market in the country. Add to that the traditional SWC rivalry, and it's not a bad choice.

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    I saw on OB that Beebe is going to present a case where member schools can make 17M a year off a new TV contract. , I hope Texas stays put then. The Okie schools and Tech will love us for the added money, plus the North orphans and Baylor will be grateful for keeping the group alive. I don't give a about Mizzou posturing anymore - Texas and our friends did the same thing. Add in the now 30 million the nine left all get to split after the Ags bolt plus making SEC-style TV money?

    Sign me the up. This is a no-brainer. The conference gets to save the auto BCS bid, too? Let's go take FedEx's 10 million for Memphis while we are at it.

    Going from 7M to 17M a year plus 3M in buyout money sounds like one of a plan.
    How the do you add 10 million when two of your schools just left?

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    How the do you add 10 million when two of your schools just left?
    1) Your a of a salesman.

    2) the cable company is a moron (not likely).

    3) Dan Bebe is full of .


    Take your pick.

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    1) Your a of a salesman.

    2) the cable company is a moron (not likely).

    3) Dan Bebe is full of .


    Take your pick.
    He's duct taping the anic.

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    He's duct taping the anic.
    Well it would suck for him to go down as the commish you let the conference crumble, plus if the Big 12 implodes is 2 years he is out of a job.

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    Houston's been better than A&M for a while,
    debatable

    likely has a brighter future than Texas Tech
    football wise? not likely at all.

    and brings in the fourth biggest television market in the country. Add to that the traditional SWC rivalry, and it's not a bad choice.
    eh.... apart from the last few years, attendance has been low for the Coogs and they don't really bring the Houston market with them since UT has already done that.

    not a terrible choice, not a great choice. just eh.

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    eh.... apart from the last few years, attendance has been low for the Coogs and they don't really bring the Houston market with them since UT has already done that.

    not a terrible choice, not a great choice. just eh.
    I would even say UH is third in that market, UT and A&M probably both draw better

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    I would even say UH is third in that market, UT and A&M probably both draw better
    yup.

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    I would even say UH is third in that market, UT and A&M probably both draw better
    They do.

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    UT only wants to get into big 10 and will more than likely stick around and add two new teams to the Big 12.

    TCU and A To be named Later will follow.
    Good call...

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    big 12 is not adding any teams. they are staying with 10.

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    Peripherals don't matter. Fact is, despite all information stating otherwise, Ignignokt said UT wasn't leaving and the Big-12 would remain. He called it.

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    Peripherals don't matter. Fact is, despite all information stating otherwise, Ignignokt said UT wasn't leaving and the Big-12 would remain. He called it.
    TCU has no shot to join the conference as well.

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    This really sucks ASS! I wanted those Texas teams in our conference!

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    This really sucks ASS! I wanted those Texas teams in our conference!
    Texas couldn't get its own network in the Pac-16

    Texas would not have had absolute control in the Pac-16, like it does in the Big 12 with 10 teams.

    Texas was unsure of the Pac-16 network and didn't want to be an equal partner.

    Texas didn't like the fact that it would have to play in a time zone with a 2 hr difference a couple of times a year.

    Texas wanted 5 OOC games and the Pac-16 couldn't guarantee that.

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    Texas is a conference killer.

    IF A2M had any sense, they'd bolt.

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    Texas is a conference killer.

    IF A2M had any sense, they'd bolt.
    It's all about $. Aggies getting paid over $20 million annually is triple what they were making last season and more than what the SEC could offer. For an Athletic department that's already far in debt, they went the safe route and couldn't pass that up. Agreed that they missed out on a great opportunity with the SEC though.

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    I was getting excited about the SEC. Oh, well. Give it a few more years.

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