Mark My Words! UT IS NOT GOING TO THE PAC 10!

[DesignatedT]

I was getting excited about the SEC. Oh, well. Give it a few more years.

Same here Thompson. Oh, Well is right. Time to worry about Football season I guess.

[NFO]

UT just created a turd of a conference. When you consider they never get to play Oklahoma in Austin, their home schedule is going to be horrible. Instead of having a chance to play Nebraska once every couple years, you're guaranteed to play ISU/KSU/KU/Baylor every year. If you ever get lucky and expand back to 12, it's going to be teams like BYU or Utah (if the Pac-11 doesn't snag the Utes first). When you throw in the lack of a Big 12 CCG, Texas fans are the real losers in that deal.

[DesignatedT]

UT just created a turd of a conference. When you consider they never get to play Oklahoma in Austin, their home schedule is going to be horrible. Instead of having a chance to play Nebraska once every couple years, you're guaranteed to play ISU/KSU/KU/Baylor every year. If you ever get lucky and expand back to 12, it's going to be teams like BYU or Utah (if the Pac-11 doesn't snag the Utes first). When you throw in the lack of a Big 12 CCG, Texas fans are the real losers in that deal.

I agree. Their out of conference schedule should start to contain some good interesting opponents though. They can't afford to schedule just powder puffs with this weak conference.

[tlongII]

Texas couldn't get its own network in the Pac-16

Texas would not have had absolute control in the Pac-16, like it does in the Big 12 with 10 teams.

Texas was unsure of the Pac-16 network and didn't want to be an equal partner.

Texas didn't like the fact that it would have to play in a time zone with a 2 hr difference a couple of times a year.

Texas wanted 5 OOC games and the Pac-16 couldn't guarantee that.

I don't understand this. How is Texas going to get 5 OOC games? They'll have 9 conference games with 3 OOC games by my count.

[NFO]

I don't understand this. How is Texas going to get 5 OOC games? They'll have 9 conference games with 3 OOC games by my count.

Well Texas didn't want to play 9 conference games they only wanted to play 7.

[DMX7]

chip brown had it wrong that Colorado wasn't going to the pAc 10 because of Baylor. Looks like he's just another orangebloods asshole.

when did he report that?

[Blake]

UT just created a turd of a conference. When you consider they never get to play Oklahoma in Austin, their home schedule is going to be horrible. Instead of having a chance to play Nebraska once every couple years, you're guaranteed to play ISU/KSU/KU/Baylor every year. If you ever get lucky and expand back to 12, it's going to be teams like BYU or Utah (if the Pac-11 doesn't snag the Utes first). When you throw in the lack of a Big 12 CCG, Texas fans are the real losers in that deal.

I think all Big XII fans are losers in this deal.

I also think <5 years down the road, we see this situation pop up again.

[DesignatedT]

I think all Big XII fans are losers in this deal.

I also think <5 years down the road, we see this situation pop up again.

Agreed. Their is also reports saying the t.v deal signed is until the year 2030

[samikeyp]

Agreed. Their is also reports saying the t.v deal signed is until the year 2030

Yeah, I would imagine for the next few years, expansion will be a topic in the off-season.

[Thompson]

Agreed. Their is also reports saying the t.v deal signed is until the year 2030

So is it still a (one-time) $10 million buyout? If so, they can make it until 3030 and it won't matter. If there's a penalty for every year you don't remain, however, they damn well better not sign it. Baylor, Kansas, K-State, Iowa State and Missouri might always have a difficult time finding another conference for various reasons, and they won't vote to disband the Big 12 (no monetary penalty). That's 50% of the votes right there.

I'm still hoping A&M waits until everyone else signs it before whipping out the SEC contract and signing it instead.

[DesignatedT]

So is it still a (one-time) $10 million buyout? If so, they can make it until 3030 and it won't matter. If there's a penalty for every year you don't remain, however, they damn well better not sign it. Baylor, Kansas, K-State, Iowa State and Missouri might always have a difficult time finding another conference for various reasons, and they won't vote to disband the Big 12 (no monetary penalty). That's 50% of the votes right there.

I'm still hoping A&M waits until everyone else signs it before whipping out the SEC contract and signing it instead.

The only long shot chance we have right now is the Big10 suddenly has a change of heart and invites Missouri They would bolt in a heartbeat and this would start all over again.

[NFO]

I think all Big XII fans are losers in this deal.

True.

I also think <5 years down the road, we see this situation pop up again.

Yep, considering they have one year of Nebraska left and two years of Colorado being there, I'm guessing once Colorado leaves that this situation pops up again.

[tlongII]

Well Texas didn't want to play 9 conference games they only wanted to play 7.

If they're in a 10 team conference without a championship game they will be playing 9 conference games guaranteed.

[Marklar MM]

If they're in a 10 team conference without a championship game they will be playing 9 conference games guaranteed.

Most likely. They wanted the 7 conf games so they could maintain their current rivalry games.

[NFO]

If they're in a 10 team conference without a championship game they will be playing 9 conference games guaranteed.

How so. Before Penn State was in the Big Ten there were 10 teams and they only played 8 conference games. So I'm not seeing where they are going to play 9 conference games "guaranteed" is coming from. I understand that the Pac-10 plays a complete round robin, but not everybody operates like the Pac-10.

Most likely. They wanted the 7 conf games so they could maintain their current rivalry games.

True, Texas wanted to have only 7 conference games if they jumped ship, one of the sticking points in their negotiations with the Pac-10.