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  1. #51
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    This whole episode ing sucks.

    lol Texas being pussies and remaining status quo.
    lol Rice as their best OOC game.
    lol Chip Brown.
    lol Geoff Ketchum
    lol anyone who pays for their
    lol utsa football.
    lol A&M trying to have balls and then pussying out as well

    I would say Nebraska won but they're ed as well. Have to pay buy out. Won't get equal share of Big 10 money for years. Are going to get ass-raped in Big 10 football.
    2 winners...Nebraska and Texas.

    Nebraska joins a stable conference, increases revenue, will be an equal partner, and don't have to deal with Texas.

    Texas gets what they have wanted for years (own network), no CCG, they lose the only program that would stick up to them (Nebraska), and once again get a lions share of conference revenue.

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    at saying A&M pussied out. Considering how we've performed in relation to OU and the sips since 2000, the fact that this new deal is getting us equal $(20 mil annually) which almost triples are revenue from last year shows who really held the cards (having another option to bolt for SEC)

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    Texas Tech is actually the only team that hasn't officially agreed yet. Their BOR are meeting today to make an official decision. If they somehow still have a Pac10 offer they could stir this up

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    I'll believe this whole thing when the ink is dry. Dan Beebe is bascially spouting off projections and assumptions at this point as no official contracts are even in place. He and DeLoss Dodds have two completely different objectives at this point. One is trying to save his job/ass and the other is trying to cement his legacy. Texas is just positioning themselves favorably until they can get the Longhorn Network up and running and then realignment will be discussed. Texas has no intentions of going anywhere until that's settled because they can't pursue that avenue if they jump ship right now. IMO, I don't see this conference surviving long-term with a 10-team format and no conference championship.

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    I think this decision is short-sighted on the part of Texas. They actually tried to bully the Pac-10 into giving them their own TV network and an unequal share of the conference revenues, but the Pac-10 wouldn't budge and that's what killed the deal. I don't see how the Big XII in its current configuration can pay the kind of money they are talking about now.

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    I'll believe this whole thing when the ink is dry. Dan Beebe is bascially spouting off projections and assumptions at this point as no official contracts are even in place. He and DeLoss Dodds have two completely different objectives at this point. One is trying to save his job/ass and the other is trying to cement his legacy. Texas is just positioning themselves favorably until they can get the Longhorn Network up and running and then realignment will be discussed. Texas has no intentions of going anywhere until that's settled because they can't pursue that avenue if they jump ship right now. IMO, I don't see this conference surviving long-term with a 10-team format and no conference championship.
    the deal will involve binding agreements from the schools indicating that they will not leave to another conference.

    in the end it is TV revenue that generates the most $$ and if they secure this deal with FOX then it is all that the schools need to know.

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    LMAO. Tech is holding out because of what started the Big12 firestorm in the first place...revenue sharing.

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    This conference is a ing joke. Why is everyone agreeing to keep this unstable mound of .

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    This conference is a ing joke. Why is everyone agreeing to keep this unstable mound of .
    This is a bandage on a bulletwound. Conference won't last 5 years.

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    This is a bandage on a bulletwound. Conference won't last 5 years.
    I hope Tech and Ok.State blow it up right now. They're pissed about the disparity in $. Bolt to the Pac10!!!

    I'm going to be so pissed having a home schedule of

    Louisiana Tech
    IowaState
    Baylor
    Kansas State
    Texas

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    I hope Tech and Ok.State blow it up right now. They're pissed about the disparity in $. Bolt to the Pac10!!!

    I'm going to be so pissed having a home schedule of

    Louisiana Tech
    IowaState
    Baylor
    Kansas State
    Texas
    I am sure you have read the numbers. The 5 "leftovers" (big12 north) get jack . They signed over their measly 2 million share each for Nebraska/Colorado leaving to Texas/OK/A&M (now get ~5.5 each).

    Texas/OK/A&M get 20 million a year.
    Tech/Ok State get 17 or so.
    leftovers around 12-13.

    Conference is a joke now.

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    I am sure you have read the numbers. The 5 "leftovers" (big12 north) get jack . They signed over their measly 2 million share each for Nebraska/Colorado leaving to Texas/OK/A&M (now get ~5.5 each).

    Texas/OK/A&M get 20 million a year.
    Tech/Ok State get 17 or so.
    leftovers around 12-13.

    Conference is a joke now.
    Oh yeah I know. Pretty disappointed in A&M for not making the move. Texas obviously got what they wanted but it was no secret A&M was holding the cards.

    From Chip Brown:
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    1. L.Scott says he had deal w/ TX. Sources say TX backed out of deal with P10 by saying because A&M wasn't on board w/ P10 the deal was off.
    The Fact that A&M got matched money that UT and OU are going to pull in just proves this. A&M almost tripling its amount of money that they were making last year despite how we have been performing against OU and UT since 2000.

    A&M should have went SEC and Texas should have went Pac10.

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    Texas/Oklahoma are going to need one of an out of conference schedule.

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    Texas/Oklahoma are going to need one of an out of conference schedule.
    That's one thing to look forward to.

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    at saying A&M pussied out. Considering how we've performed in relation to OU and the sips since 2000, the fact that this new deal is getting us equal $(20 mil annually) which almost triples are revenue from last year shows who really held the cards (having another option to bolt for SEC)
    Once Texas pulled out, the SEC option was gone. You know that right? I'll give you that A&M called Texas' bluff though. Those pussies just couldn't do it.

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    Once Texas pulled out, the SEC option was gone. You know that right? I'll give you that A&M called Texas' bluff though. Those pussies just couldn't do it.
    Billy liucci-twit

    @lengis yes, the offer from SEC was unconditional and they guaranteed they would take A&M even if they were only the 13th member about 14 hours ago via web in reply to lengis
    Option was always there.

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    the deal will involve binding agreements from the schools indicating that they will not leave to another conference.
    Those kind of agreements don't mean anything, rjv. Even if this deal does go down, there will be a provision in the contract (like the current Big XII has) that says the conference can be dissolved in certain situations. Even if that doesn't happen, do you think there's any financial penalty that Texas couldn't afford to take if they decide to walk in a couple of years? They're the ones who hold the cards in this whole deal anyway. Make no mistake about it...this is happening because Texas said so.

    in the end it is TV revenue that generates the most $$ and if they secure this deal with FOX then it is all that the schools need to know.
    Again, y'all are making an assumption about this deal with FOX or whoever. This whole television contract and financial figures that Beebe is talking about doesn't mean much of anything at this point in time. Bill Powers and DeLoss Dodds didn't really have it together at the press conference today and it showed in their body language. There are no concrete terms, nothing has been seen in writing and even Dodds mentioned that Texas has not committed to a long-term Big XII. He even stated afterwards that nothing in these sort of deals will keep Texas (or another team) from walking in the future if they want to. There's a lot of behind-the-scenes stuff that simply isn't being talked about. Texas appears to have its own agenda.

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    Once Texas pulled out, the SEC option was gone. You know that right? I'll give you that A&M called Texas' bluff though. Those pussies just couldn't do it.
    The Aggies definitely pissed in the punch, but where big brother goes...little brother goes.

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    Option was always there.
    I don't buy that for a second. The SEC wants to be responsible for creating the PAC 16? I'm sure they're floating that through their mouthpiece but in reality, A&M doesn't have the invite unless Texas is westward bound. I wish it were true and I wish that A&M would be the one in this scenario to have the balls to make these mega conferences begin. The SEC/ESPN wins by not having the PAC 16.

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    Did Beebe really admit that they don't have a new deal but are ing hopeful? everyone involved with this abortion. Especially that .

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    Come on Aggie. Blow this thing up. Leave. Please. I'm begging you. If you really have an unconditional offer to the SEC, take it. Run. Don't look back.

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    Option was always there.
    I wouldn't take to heart much of what you read on TexAgs or from Liucci. That site has some of the most delusional folks around. I once saw a conversation on there that went like this:

    "Do you guys think we can still make a national le run even though we lost to Arkansas State?"

    "Oh yeah, we can always climb up the standings with an early season loss."

    "Yeah, we can run the table and still get in. Look at LSU...they got into the BCS Championship with two losses."

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    Did Beebe really admit that they don't have a new deal but are ing hopeful? everyone involved with this abortion. Especially that .
    This was DeLoss Dodds and Bill Powers at the press conference today. It was extremely bizarre and just uncomfortable.

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    This was DeLoss Dodds and Bill Powers at the press conference today. It was extremely bizzarre.
    When it comes from the guy who is supposed to have the numbers and used those numbers to convince Deloss and Powers to stay, then it gets scary. All they kept saying with regard to tv revenue projections was "ask Beebe." But Beebe doesn't know and is going based on what "consultants" have advised him. They don't have a ing deal. They have assurances. We're ed. I hate this ing league.

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    Well we know where that money is going now...

    Andy_Staples

    The three (Texas, A&M, OU) will get all the Nebraska and Colorado buyout money. At least now we know the pecking order.

    ChrisLevel

    Beebe is confirming that MU, KU, KSU, BU and ISU all gave in and will give the buyout fee money to UT, OU and A&M.
    5 minutes ago via web

    at Tech and OkState. They're prob like wtf?

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