Kravitz: Pacers must deal their No. 10 pick for point guard

[TDMVPDPOY]

i pull the trigger if they get rj of our hands, and give us granger + ty contract we can absorb

dunno whats there cap situation, maybe they can go after carmelo next season fa

[dbestpro]

Why would I laugh at someone who basically said "you're a disagreeable, argumentative, long-winded, opinionated know-it-all"? And why is it that, no matter the topic, if you or any of your little buddies see my name in a thread where there's a debate going on, I'm automatically in the wrong every single time?

I wouldn't say disagreeable.

[Blackjack]

Why did "A two sentence reply from TD 21 in agreement!?" sound an awful lot like "you're a disagreeable, argumentative, long winded, opinionated know-it-all"?

This is just getting really sad. Seriously.

TD 21, do me a favor and just step back from the situation for a sec. Think about all the conversations we've had and how I've interacted with you. What in that fairly recent history would lead you to believe that after we just had a couple of posts in agreement I would just randomly call you out in some malicious fashion? Honestly? What reason would I have to take a shot at you?

I'm all ears.

[TD 21]

This is just getting really sad. Seriously.

TD 21, do me a favor and just step back from the situation for a sec. Think about all the conversations we've had and how I've interacted with you. What in that fairly recent history would lead you to believe that after we just had a couple of posts in agreement I would just randomly call you out in some malicious fashion? Honestly? What reason would I have to take a shot at you?

I'm all ears.

You never answered my question, so why should I answer yours?

You tell me what your reasoning was, you're the one who wrote it.

[Blackjack]

A possible exchange of first-rounders would cause me some hesistation. Although, it would probably still be the prudent thing to do. However if the trade, as originally proposed, is Hill in exchange for Rush & #10 pick, thereby allowing the Spurs to keep their #20, I don't see how the Spurs could turn that down. The Spurs could bolster their SG (Rush), SF (George or Henry), and PF (Udoh, Sanders, or Davis) positions in one fell swoop. Add in Splitter and the Spurs will be ready to roll.

There's always going to be hesitation in a reasonably fair trade, and even more so when someone like Hill's involved (someone I believe has a chance to be a pretty special player -- like I said, he's one of my favorites).

But if the Spurs are high enough on someone like George to take him at 10 (given the size, ability and position), I've got to believe that's a deal that has to be made. It would suck to lose Hill but to find your teams possible 2 and 3 of the future would make it a much easier pill to swallow; and I'd take some solace in the fact that he'd be going home and have a real opportunity to grow and showcase himself in a bigger role.

Of course, it does create a potential hole at backup PG. If the Spurs are really, really high on Garrett Temple's , perhaps he could fill the bill at backup point. If not, any thoughts about swapping out T.J. Ford in place of Rush, in the trade? I would guess the money doesn't match and that Rush for Hill is probably a closer salary match.

I think between Temple, free-agency and the draft they could find something that would leave them better off than they were before the trade. Not at the backup point, but as a team overall; I'd want Rush to come in a play that "centerpiece" role and maybe eventually have George come off the bench as a 6th Man or some such. They need to monitor Manu's minutes, and it's definitely easier said than done with him starting, but I think Pop can manage to get it done. Start Tim, Tiago, Rush, Manu, Parker bring RJ, Blair, 'Dyess and their pick off the bench. I think I could bear that.

[Blackjack]

You never answered my question, so why should I answer yours?

You tell me what your reasoning was, you're the one who wrote it.

I told you exactly what happened and you refused to accept it. There was nothing malicious in my comment. If anything, it was a good-natured rib between friends here given our history. You just took it to some extreme out of nowhere, which leads me back to my question: What would lead you to believe that I'd take a shot at you from our prior interactions and the preceding comments?

[TD 21]

I told you exactly what happened and you refused to accept it. There was nothing malicious in my comment. If anything, it was a good-natured rib between friends here given our history. You just took it to some extreme out of nowhere, which leads me back to my question: What would lead you to believe that I'd take a shot at you from our prior interactions and the preceding comments?

Maybe because I don't fit the mold of your buddies on the board. I'm not exactly sure why, but you did. It's not like I care about the remark, I was just somewhat surprised by it and am not sure why you're in denial. It's cut and dried to me. Even if it wasn't malicious, as you say, you're honestly going to pretend that you're stunned that I took it that way? You don't see how it could be construed that way?

You still didn't answer my question.

[Big P]

brandon rush sucks.

This.

[Blackjack]

Maybe because I don't fit the mold of your buddies on the board. I'm not exactly sure why, but you did. It's not like I care about the remark, I was just somewhat surprised by it and am not sure why you're in denial.

Why would you be surprised by it? Would it have anything to do with the way I've interacted with you in the past?

It's cut and dried to me. Even if it wasn't malicious, as you say, you're honestly going to pretend that you're stunned that I took it that way? You don't see how it could be construed that way?

When you put it like that, I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you took it that way. I just assumed that we'd gotten past that line of thinking -- the defensive, paranoid thinking -- and you wouldn't jump to such a conclusion; I figured I'd at least earned the benefit of a doubt. My bad.

You still didn't answer my question.

So would you like me to answer my question and you to answer yours? Because I haven't a clue what you want from me.

[Blackjack]

Thread marathon.

[duncan228]

[TD 21]

Why would you be surprised by it? Would it have anything to do with the way I've interacted with you in the past?



When you put it like that, I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you took it that way. I just assumed that we'd gotten past that line of thinking -- the defensive, paranoid thinking -- and you wouldn't jump to such a conclusion; I figured I'd at least earned the benefit of a doubt. My bad.



So would you like me to answer my question and you to answer yours? Because I haven't a clue what you want from me.

Surprised by the nature of it is all. Like I said, it's not the first time you've taken a shot at me, it's just never been this obvious. Caught me somewhat by surprise, particularly considering that, as you said, we had just agreed in a couple of threads. It didn't add up. I guess you have your reasons, even if you're not willing to disclose them.

The shots keep coming. Now I'm "defensive and paranoid". Let me guess, that was a good-natured rib from a "friend" as well and I'm just being defensive and paranoid for taking it the wrong way? The benefit of what doubt? You took a shot at me, you've since followed it up by taking more at me and you're inexplicably in denial about it. You got caught with your hand in the cookie jar so to speak and won't own up to it. Don't worry, man, you're not going to jail over this. It's not that big a deal, though the genesis and timing of it is strange to say the least.

This was the question...

Why did "A two sentence reply from TD 21 in agreement!?" sound an awful lot like "you're a disagreeable, argumentative, long winded, opinionated know-it-all"?

[E-RockWill]

[benefactor]

Maybe because I don't fit the mold of your buddies on the board.

I think you like it that way and are purposely playing it up. You have had this "me against all of you" at ude since you came here and just as you are starting to become a decent poster someone makes a light hearted comment at you and you flip out like they just punched your mom in the face.

Congrats...you are right back where you were when you were saying stuff like, "You are disrespecting me because of my post count."

[TD 21]

I think you like it that way and are purposely playing it up. You have had this "me against all of you" at ude since you came here and just as you are starting to become a decent poster someone makes a light hearted comment at you and you flip out like they just punched your mom in the face.

Congrats...you are right back where you were when you were saying stuff like, "You are disrespecting me because of my post count."

I don't really care either way, it's just a message board. I don't know any of you people and am not trying to get to know any of you or befriend you, I'm just calling it like I see it.

The arrogance of some of you guys is laughable though and you're a prime example. You honestly believe that I care what you think of me. Does this mean that I'll lose some of my SpursTalk cash or not be voted onto the All-SpursTalk team next year? Say it ain't so!?

[E-RockWill]

you flip out like they just punched your mom in the face.

Hilarious.....

[benefactor]

I don't really care either way, it's just a message board. I don't know any of you people and am not trying to get to know any of you or befriend you, I'm just calling it like I see it.

The arrogance of some of you guys is laughable though and you're a prime example. You honestly believe that I care what you think of me. Does this mean that I'll lose some of my SpursTalk cash or not be voted onto the All-SpursTalk team next year? Say it ain't so!?

lol...point proven.

This is my last response. I refuse to be a part of your hard fantasy where you masturbate to the thought of everyone hating you.

[TD 21]

lol...point proven.

This is my last response. I refuse to be a part of your hard fantasy where you masturbate to the thought of everyone hating you.

Don't worry, Blackjack is a big boy, I think he can do without your help in a message board disagreement/debate, second teamer.

[E-RockWill]

lol...point proven.

This is my last response. I refuse to be a part of your hard fantasy where you masturbate to the thought of everyone hating you.

Winner

I hate you.....you like that....do ya?!......you dooo like that, you naughty wench.....

[Blackjack]

Surprised by the nature of it is all. Like I said, it's not the first time you've taken a shot at me, it's just never been this obvious. Caught me somewhat by surprise, particularly considering that, as you said, we had just agreed in a couple of threads. It didn't add up. I guess you have your reasons, even if you're not willing to disclose them.

So this isn't the first time I've taken a shot at you, really? Did it ever occur to you that I'm a bit of a smartass and don't take this all too seriously. Because I am and I don't. And for the record, I haven't taken any shots at you. You've drawn some poor conclusions and failed to mention it the past, therefore I was unaware of there being any confusion.

The shots keep coming. Now I'm "defensive and paranoid". Let me guess, that was a good-natured rib from a "friend" as well and I'm just being defensive and paranoid for taking it the wrong way? The benefit of what doubt? You took a shot at me, you've since followed it up by taking more at me and you're inexplicably in denial about it. You got caught with your hand in the cookie jar so to speak and won't own up to it. Don't worry, man, you're not going to jail over this. It's not that big a deal, though the genesis and timing of it is strange to say the least.

No, I'm clearly in' with you now. It was never my intent to but you've really left me no choice. What, am I supposed to just kowtow and tell you what you want to hear? Sorry, bro. It's not happenin'. And that's really rich. REAL RICH. I need to admit to some wrong-doing and the fact that I got my hand caught in the cookie jar. Please. Yes, that's what we professional message boarders like to call: defensive and paranoid behavior. I've got a degree. I paid for it and everything.

This was the question...

Why did "A two sentence reply from TD 21 in agreement!?" sound an awful lot like "you're a disagreeable, argumentative, long winded, opinionated know-it-all"?

Let's play word association: you give me a word or phrase and then tell me what I'm supposed to feel or say!

I don't want to have to point to my degree again, but I will. I spent good money for it.

[Seventyniner]

Holy thread hijack, Batman!

I don't have anything of substance to add, though; Hill for Rush + #10 is a no-brainer in my book. We need shooting, and having both the 10th and 20th pick would be awesome.

Hill + #20 for Rush + #10...meh. I don't think moving up 10 spots is worth losing Hill.

[Blackjack]

CAR!



GAME ON!

[E-RockWill]

Shhhh, Seventyniner.......mira, this is getting gooood.........

[Blackjack]

I'd like to welcome the viewers to our first intermission . . .

[TD 21]

So this isn't the first time I've taken a shot at you, really? Did it ever occur to you that I'm a bit of a smartass and don't take this all too seriously. Because I am and I don't. And for the record, I haven't taken any shots at you. You've drawn some poor conclusions and failed to mention it the past, therefore I was unaware of there being any confusion.



No, I'm clearly in' with you now. It was never my intent to but you've really left me no choice. What, am I supposed to just kowtow and tell you what you want to hear? Sorry, bro. It's not happenin'. And that's really rich. REAL RICH. I need to admit to some wrong-doing and the fact that I got my hand caught in the cookie jar. Please. Yes, that's what we professional message boarders like to call: defensive and paranoid behavior. I've got a degree. I paid for it and everything.



Let's play word association: you give me a word or phrase and then tell me what I'm supposed to feel or say!

I don't want to have to point to my degree again, but I will. I spent good money for it.

Try as you might, you're not funny.

I realize you're a smartass, but there's a difference between that and taking a shot at someone. That was a classic example of someone attempting to disguise what they really think through humor. You have done it before, even if you inexplicably don't have the balls to admit to it or not. It's just a message board, nothing's going to happen to you if you own up to it.

I already knew you thought that about me. "Professional message boarders", funny, you poke fun at me, but that's exactly how you and your little clique act. I knew before I even called you on this who'd jump to your defense and who'd keep tabs on the thread.

More evading the question and copping out. It sounded an awful lot like that and you can't explain why it (supposedly) didn't.