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    btw, can' find it now, but BP is apparently the largest supplier of fuel to the US military.
    And?

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    You want an irresponsible company being responsible for fuel supply to our military? You want to reward them with that type of business? Those are just two relevant thoughts stemming from that fact.

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    And?

    There will be political decisions as to whether legal attacks on BP remain civil or get promoted to criminal. ie, BP could be judged by the politicians to be "above the law"

    Joe Barton, TX asshole, apologizes to BP for the extra-legal $20B shakedown by the WH. TX is really full of Repug/conservative/redneck assholes that do much more damage than all the illegal aliens combined.
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    You want an irresponsible company being responsible for fuel supply to our military? You want to reward them with that type of business? Those are just two relevant thoughts stemming from that fact.

    Rewarding them?


    Do you want to punish them? You don't need to answer.

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    I don't want to give them any contracts Darrin. For several reasons. Do you?

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    I don't want to give them any contracts Darrin. For several reasons. Do you?

    Sounds like they already have contracts.

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    Actually, I would hope contracts would go to the companies that can do the best job at the most reasonable cost.

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    Yes, all evidence points to BP being the company best able to do the job safely and efficiently.

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    Sounds like they already have contracts.
    What contracts are those? How long do they last? Are we able to leave them under evidence of gross negligence?

    Are you in favor of giving corporations responsible for large scale disasters like this government contracts?

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    btw, can' find it now, but BP is apparently the largest supplier of fuel to the US military.
    They supply the jet fuel, but not the deisel, to my understanding.

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    What contracts are those? How long do they last? Are we able to leave them under evidence of gross negligence?

    Are you in favor of giving corporations responsible for large scale disasters like this government contracts?
    Hard question.

    As long as they man-up and accept responsbility, yes.

    The second they try to be weasels, gank the contracts.

    We have a LOT of leverage over them in that regard, although the jet fuel contracts are comparatively not a big segment of their business.

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    More oil spilled in Niger delta every year than has been spilled in the Gulf of Mexico.

    http://www.boingboing.net/2010/06/14...pilled-in.html

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    So?

    Since when do right-wing dumb s measure the USA against a disastrous, corrupt African hole?
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    After hearing BP Execs voice concern for “Small People” …I am feeling a lot better about this oil disaster…

    “We care about the small people." Carl-Henric Svanberg
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    More oil spilled in Niger delta every year than has been spilled in the Gulf of Mexico.

    http://www.boingboing.net/2010/06/14...pilled-in.html
    You mean the true costs of oil production are actually higher than what we are paying for at the pump, pretty much what I have been saying all along?

    Thanks for making my point for me Darrin.

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    ""I got a lot of pressure from the lead engineers and from the managers saying, 'Don't do that; don't push so much; we don't want to mess with that.'" Abbott told Huffpost in an interview Wednesday. "I feel like the real reason I was fired was because I was trying to raise a safety issue, and you know BP has a long history of getting rid of people who try to raise safety issues. I was one of those victims."

    "Management sets the tone," Abbott added. "If they think that production is more important than safety, then that's the tone of the company, and that was the tone at Atlantis.""


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0...tml?view=print

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    More oil spilled in Niger delta every year than has been spilled in the Gulf of Mexico.

    http://www.boingboing.net/2010/06/14...pilled-in.html
    Who the wants to live in Niger? What a -ass excuse.

    We live in America. I want my kids to grow up in America. If you want to move to Niger, go right the ahead.

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    Actually, I would hope contracts would go to the companies that can do the best job at the most reasonable cost.
    Actually, when it comes to deep water, we already know that no oil company is prepared for a major malfunction.

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    I don't recall that thread. Who claimed coal-industry lobbyists literally wrote public policy. But, more germane to the current issue, to what catastrophic disaster did it lead?
    Take a look at the air quality in most major cities. You cant even take a picture of a city skyline anymore without the haze obscuring your view.

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    Just wondering how that clean up effort is going? Is the well capped & beaches all back to normal?

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    More importantly, would the oil spilled fill the Superdome yet? That apparently is when this thing hits "crisis", per DarrinS.

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    I wonder what happens to Darrin when the oil can fill TX stadium..



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    More importantly, would the oil spilled fill the Superdome yet?
    Any lesser amount would apparently be de minimis.

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    This is the NYTimes, so it's all a liberal lie or an Act of God, but nice graphics

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...html?ref=earth

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    I am just grateful that B.P has saved all of those walruses…The heck with shrimpers & other people whose lively hood depends on the gulf waters…

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