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    In the end, we get the politics we deserve I suppose. If people are stupid enough to fall for anti-worker rhetoric, god help us.

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    He sure knows how to bus in caterers... Obama should genuinely be worried of getting eaten alive if this guy runs for President...
    Wouldn't it something if Obama had the confidence of his convictions that would allow him to speak extemporaneously, that passionately, on anything?

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    In the end, we get the politics we deserve I suppose. If people are stupid enough to fall for anti-worker rhetoric, god help us.
    What anti-worker rhetoric?

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    He sure knows how to bus in caterers... Obama should genuinely be worried of getting eaten alive if this guy runs for President...
    Hmmm....

    I never though about him as president, but now that you mention it. I think I like that idea.

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    Hmmm....

    I never though about him as president, but now that you mention it. I think I like that idea.
    I'm thinking who I would hate so much that I would vote for Obama in 2012. I can't think of one.

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    Wouldn't it something if Obama had the confidence of his convictions that would allow him to speak extemporaneously, that passionately, on anything?
    What makes you think that wasn't scripted?
    That he doesn't have a teleprompter doesn't mean he didn't practice the routine in front of a mirror a million and one time. That's just politics.

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    Hmmm....

    I never though about him as president, but now that you mention it. I think I like that idea.
    He's definitely gonna go for it, I'm sure. Even if he gets jack done in NJ, his 'fighting the union' rhetoric sure rings true to the GOP core.

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    What makes you think that wasn't scripted?
    That he doesn't have a teleprompter doesn't mean he didn't practice the routine in front of a mirror a million and one time. That's just politics.
    I doubt it but, even if; don't you wish Obama could do that?

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    I doubt it but, even if; don't you wish Obama could do that?
    lying is lying is lying

    I don't particularly care how they do it...

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    lying is lying is lying

    I don't particularly care how they do it...
    About what is Christie lying?

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    El NONO just got bish slapt!

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    Who's the referee now, silly bish?

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    Don't we have a 1% ad valorem cap in Texas? What else is gonna get raised to fill the $11-17 billion shortfall?

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    About what is Christie lying?
    Accountability, obviously. Awarding no-bid contracts to friends, supporters, and allies really tells you what kind of accountability he's talking about.

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    LOL @ the cheerleader... it's not like Yoni needs help

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    Who's the referee now, silly bish?
    referee <<<<<<<<<<<< forum cop, on whose the biggest scale.

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    LOL @ the cheerleader... it's not like Yoni needs help
    LOL @ El Nono, Obama's has shriveled inside his mouth and now he just has the bad aftertaste.

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    referee <<<<<<<<<<<< forum cop, on whose the biggest scale.
    Pots jeering at kettles, my man.

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    LOL @ El Nono, Obama's has shriveled inside his mouth and now he just has the bad aftertaste.
    I didn't vote for Obama and I couldn't care less about Obama.

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    New Jersey Battles Over Tax On Millionaires

    According to the nonpartisan Office of Legislative Services, a retired couple living on a fixed income of $40,000 would see an increase of $1,320 in taxes under the governor's plan while a family making $1.2 million would receive a tax cut of $11,598.
    Awake from your dogmatic slumber, Americans. Conservatives and their center-right partners (aka The Democratic Party) are waging a ruthless class war on working people and the poor.

    Tax cuts for millionaires, more taxes and declining wages and standard of living for you - is this the best deal available America?

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    Tax cuts for millionaires, more taxes and declining wages and standard of living for you - is this the best deal available America?
    It's the only result imaginable. We pawned our future to save the ty banks and broker-dealers from default. To cushion the blow to confidence in the US, we've debased the currency and assumed unsustainable levels of deficit and debt.

    Eventually the millionaires will have to pay more too. Our money will be worth less, we'll get paid less in real terms, and government services will be cut.

    The lifestyle zenith may already have been reached in the US. Maybe now we're just starting to settle down to the level of the rest of the world.

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    It's the only result imaginable.
    Hardly. Beware the deficit hawks. I'm reminded of the run up to the Iraq war - the problem is a lack of real dicussion and info flow in our democracy. Don't let the conservative mainstream media define the options/talking points for you. I'm not convinced the powers at be are exploring all the options, are you? Only the options that benefit their own interests it seems to me.

    We pawned our future to save the ty banks and broker-dealers from default. To cushion the blow to confidence in the US, we've debased the currency and assumed unsustainable levels of deficit and debt.

    Eventually the millionaires will have to pay more too. Our money will be worth less, we'll get paid less in real terms, and government services will be cut.
    We get paid less already. Look up the decline in real wages that has been going on for the last 30 years.
    Also look up Eisenhower's tax rate on millionaires.

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    The lifestyle zenith may already have been reached in the US. Maybe now we're just starting to settle down to the level of the rest of the world.
    Settle down to third world levels you mean, right? We're already behind many other industrialized nations/Western democracies in terms of social services, education, health care and other factors.
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    New Jersey Battles Over Tax On Millionaires



    Awake from your dogmatic slumber, Americans. Conservatives and their center-right partners (aka The Democratic Party) are waging a ruthless class war on working people and the poor.

    Tax cuts for millionaires, more taxes and declining wages and standard of living for you - is this the best deal available America?
    This is the GOP political platform in a nuts ...

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    New Jersey Battles Over Tax On Millionaires



    Awake from your dogmatic slumber, Americans. Conservatives and their center-right partners (aka The Democratic Party) are waging a ruthless class war on working people and the poor.

    Tax cuts for millionaires, more taxes and declining wages and standard of living for you - is this the best deal available America?
    Bull .

    You lib s never learn. You cannot tax yourself into prosperity. You don't need higher taxes, you need more tax payers. Keep raising taxes, and the people who have the money, relocate. You lose tax payers.

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    This is the GOP political platform in a nuts ...
    What...

    Wanting fair taxes rather than more and more redistribution of wealth?

    When will you people with room temperature IQ's wake up?

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