Why do international players have this advantage? Gist came from college and when on to an international league. Why can't others do the same?
It's easier to accept for an international player to stay in his country than for a college player to postponed his NBA dream to go overseas.
Some college players like Gist have agreed to go overseas. If Spurs can find a college player who agreed with going in Europe, he could also be a candidate to be drafted and stashed.
Got it, thanks.
I posted a near-final trade in the general trades discussion (Kings get Dalembert, Philly gets Hawes/Nocioni). Here are the potential draft implications:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5297829
But the real ramifications may come during the draft. The Sixers have been deciding between Evan Turner and Derrick Favors with the No. 2 pick. While Sixers general manager Ed Stefanski is a Turner fan, head coach Doug Collins is high on Favors. With Dalembert gone and Nocioni in, it could push them in the direction of Favors.
For the Kings, this could also change their draft equation. The team has been looking at drafting DeMarcus Cousins and Greg Monroe, both centers. With this deal, it could allow them to address another need at the three. the Kings have been high on both Al-Farouq Aminu and Gordon Hayward.
That's damn stupid.
First, Nocioni is nowhere good enough to have an impact on the 2nd pick.
Second, the reason why Sixers do this trade is to get Hawes, a big man.
If this trade has an impact on #2, it will push Sixers to draft Turner.
Did I miss something? Because, even though I didn't get to see much of him last year, Hawes was someone I believed to be a much better player and prospect than just some throw-in or a guy you wouldn't mind manning the 4 for a long time on most teams . . .
Hawes had clearly fallen out of favor with the Kings, which was apparent the moment they acquired Landry. With Landry and Thompson, who they clearly hold in higher regard, Hawes wasn't a good fit with them. They needed a better rebounder/shot blocker with more mobility than Hawes. Dalembert fits the bill.
The thing with Dalembert is, he went from near (or maybe full fledged) albatross to appealing, because he's now an expiring contract. Let's face it, that, combined with the fact that he's still in his prime and is a 6-11 guy who can protect the rim, makes him (somewhat) valuable.
So Hawes wasn't a throw-in, he was a large pat of the appeal for the 76ers to make this trade. Sure, they wanted to shed Dalembert's salary sooner than later, but I don't think they would have been so desperate as to take on Nocioni's awful contract unless they were getting a decent prospect in return.
Oh, I wasn't suggesting he was a throw-in. But I was wondering how Ford (if that's who it was) could possibly view him as such. It's one thing if a team just happens to have some quality youth in the front court and chooses to go another direction because of fit and need, but to suggest Hawes is basically a throw-in or just some "guy," seemed a bit ridiculous, IMO.
My mistake. Ford is an idiot. He get's carried away with so many prospects going into the draft, then a few years later if they're not a star, he acts like they have no value. I'm fairly certain he was building up Hawes (not to Milicic proportions, mind you) going into his draft year. Now a few years down the road, just because the guy isn't a star and has glaring flaws, he acts like he's got no value.
He's a decent prospect. The 76ers add him to Turner/Favors, Iguodala, Young, Holliday, Speights and Williams, which gives them a fairly solid core going forward.
Plus he's really looked like he's going to be a three-point threat in this league and the Sixers need all the quality shooting they can get.
Hawes took a step back last year. We will see how this goes. Shoot, if RJ could bring back similar value I would be thrilled.
Chad Ford put out his fifth edition of a first round mock, and for the fifth consecutive time he has the Spurs drafting Damion James with the following players still on the theoretical board:
Hassan Whiteside
Daniel Orton
Larry Sanders
E. Williams
Quincy Pondexter
Dominique Jones
Personally, I'd take all but Orton or Jones over James at that spot.
For those who felt that the Sixers would draft Turner...you got some pretty good evidence of such earlier today:
http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/06/18/s...ixers-website/
^ There is a great Sixers insider on realgm message board and he is saying since the lottery that Sixers are in love with Turner and he is a lock at #2.
What will be very interesting to know for Spurs are player in the green room. So far 9 are in (Wall, Turner, Favors, Johnson, Cousins, Monroe, Aminu, Aldrich, Udoh). 5 or 6 will be added and it's quite safe to say that these 14 or 15 players won't be there at #20. If one (or more) of Henry, George, Babbit or Hayward isn't in the green room, it means Spurs could have a legit chance of grabbing him either at #20 or by moving up of a couple of spots.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player...playerId=31604
Josh Lomers(Baylor Bears)
Birth Place Boerne, TX
Height 7-0
Weight 280 lbs.
Position C
Experience 4 years
Class Senior
http://projectspurs.com/2010-article...rs-lomers.html
The San Antonio Spurs will work out Josh Lomers from Baylor University as the 2010 NBA Draft nears:
Lomers has been in the San Francisco/Oakland area for a few weeks training with Entersport and will stay there through the end of the week before he comes back to Texas. He'll go to Waco for a short stay before heading to San Antonio where he’s going to attend a Spurs mini-camp in hopes of impressing a few people.
Lomers said he would love to play with the Spurs or any other NBA team for that matter...
Lomers is 7"0', 280 lbs., who averaged 6.6 points, 3.7 rebounds, and 1.1 blocks with Baylor University in the 2009-2010 season. He is also from Boerne, Texas.
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Josh Lomers!
lol DX not even bothering to make a profile for him.
Bruno posted the original, unedited, article from the Boerne Star over in the FA thread. The Spurs mini-camp mentioned is scheduled for July 8th. So Lomars will be looking for a shot at a SL or training camp invite, this is not a pre-draft workout.
http://boernestar.com/articles/2010/...3668003656.txt
True.
FWIW Spurs actually work out several rookie free agents and D-Leaguers in these rookie free agent mini-camps during the free agent period before training camp actually begins.
Lomars' invitation just happens to be one of many to get leaked.
Bulls Will Consider Dealing 17th Pick
Jun 19, 2010 10:27 AM EST
The Bulls have the 17th overall pick in next week's NBA Draft and it appears to be available.
Chicago general manager Gar Forman told the team's web site that he'd consider trading the pick if the right situation arises.
Forman added that the Bulls have had some discussions about dealing the pick to create additional cap space, but that trading the selection by itself is "not significant enough" to make a deal.
"It would have to be the pick with a combination of something else," Forman said.
Read more: http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_ar...#ixzz0rKiMPxpn
Interesting note...it's pretty unanimously agreed upon that the Spurs' biggest need is at SF, but the two biggest positions worked out thus far are at SG and PF. And the only SGs that could play some SF are probably Henry and Stephenson.
I think we're in for an interesting first pick (for Spurs) and overall draft...as always.
Are the Utah Jazz after a 2nd 1st-round draft pick?
SALT LAKE CITY — If what University of South Florida combo guard Dominique Jones says is true, the Jazz may be trying to trade for a second first-round draft pick.
Jones doesn't expect to be taken as early as No. 9, when Utah makes its first pick in Thursday's NBA Draft. But he doesn't expect to be around when they make their second selection, either, at No. 55 overall in the second round.
Why, then, did Jones join nine others — including possible lottery pick Paul George of Fresno State and Alabama-Birmingham shooting guard Elijah Millsap — in working out Saturday for the Jazz?
"I heard a rumor they might be getting around a 20-some pick," Jones said.
So are the Jazz really looking to deal?
"We, as a staff, try to be prepared for everything," said Jazz player personnel vice president Walt Perrin.
"If come draft day somebody says 'We'll give you another pick,' or 'You can buy another pick,' or 'You can trade for another pick' — move down or whatever — we have to be prepared for that."
Perrin neither confirmed nor denied that Jazz general manager Kevin O'Connor is aggressively pursuing acquisition of a pick in the 20s.
"Is he talking to everybody? Yes. I mean, that's what everybody in the league (does). They talk to every other GM and toss out scenarios," Perrin said. "As I've always said ... the winner in this time of year is Ma Bell, because everybody's on the phone and everybody's talking.
"Most of the stuff never gets done. But it's talked about."
Two teams, Minnesota and Memphis, own three first-round picks. Minnesota's third is No. 23. Two of Memphis' are also in the 20s, No. 25 and No. 28.
New Jersey has two picks, including No. 27. Oklahoma City also has two, No. 21 and No. 26.
Oklahoma City has been aggressive about trying to move up and Minnesota continues "to look in all directions," ESPN.com recently reported. And The Commercial Appeal newspaper reported Memphis is "exploring deals that may compel (it) to move one or two picks."
Jones, Perrin suggested, is a candidate to be taken in the 20s. He led the Big East in scoring as a junior last season, averaging 21.4 points over 33 games.
Other could-go-in-the-20s prospects the Jazz have worked out include George, Marshall center Hassan Whiteside, Texas shooting guard Avery Bradley, Texas small forward Damion James, Iowa State power forward Craig Brackins, Virginia Commonwealth power forward Larry Sanders and Georgia Tech power forward Gani Lawal.
BY GEORGE: At 6-foot-9 and pegged to play primarily shooting guard in the NBA, Paul George thinks he can be "a matchup problem night in and night out" at the next level.
"I think I will be able to come in and contribute right away," said George, who averaged 16.8 points per game as a sop re last season.
A possible lottery pick, the Fresno State product recently canceled a workout with Toronto because of a re-injured hip flexor.
During Saturday's audition, Perrin said George "struggled a little bit because of that" and didn't shoot particularly well. But pre-drafts workouts have helped his rising stock, George feels.
"I didn't get a chance to really show my full repertoire (at Fresno), and everything that I could do," he said, "so to get a chance to do it now has been the key."
Despite Saturday's showing, Perrin calls George a "very talented kid" and "very intriguing."
"Is he skilled enough to play right now? Yes," Perrin said. "But of course, like most college basketball players, he needs to get a little bit stronger and understand the NBA game."
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...pick.html?pg=2
^ How would you know that?
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