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    I think Hill is the one that's gone, but assuming equal value in return you'd have to think trading Tony makes more sense. At the end of the day it scares me to death to have the Spurs built around an early 30's PG with declining quickness. Especially when said PG's whole game is predicated on quickness.

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    I agree Phila,

    If this rumor does have legs, I see Parker being the one traded for the reasons you mentioned.
    Also, Parker is the only one that will get you a high draft pick. Hill may get you top 15, but not top 5.

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    if it's parker, it better be for someone good, like an all star in return. if it's for murphy, rush, and the number 10 pick, someone is going to be fired when the spurs tank it.

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    I'll give up Parker for Harris and the #3, not for Murphy and the #10. That's like tanking the season.

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    Harris? Eww.

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    I see no reason why the Spurs would trade Hill when he is as cheap as he is unless it is to dump RJ.

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    I'll give up Parker for Harris and the #3, not for Murphy and the #10. That's like tanking the season.
    This.

    Although tanking the season has worked for us before.

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    Neither will be traded, no Parker=No PG.

    Hill fits the Spurs very well, great at ude, he's cheap, and it looks like next year will be his breakout year. I can see Hill scoring around 16PPG next season, he's a hard worker so I have no doubt he'll be a much more efficient shooter.

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    I think the deals will either be Parker for #3 or Hill for #10; plus other assets depending on what the Nets and Indiana want.

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    Chad Ford also was 100% sure Darko would be better than LeBron.

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    If we trade Tony we better get some serious talent in return, cause while Tony had an off year, mostly due to injuries, this is a high level talented guy who brings a lot to the court when he is healthy and on his game. I love Hill, but Tony has been doing his thing for a long time and doing it well, and he is in his prime, Hill has yet to dominate for a whole season, and he had a horrible melt down against the Suns. Whatever else you can say about Tony when it mattered most the guy came through, he played well once he settled down in 03, he was up and down in 05 but when Beno choked Tony ran the team as well as any point guard can and of course in 07 the guy just killed everyone and was a monster in the finals. These things don't just happen, Tony has monster talent, the Spurs better make a deal that will make sense. Losing him for a draft pick with potential doesn't make sense to me.

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    I agree with Bruno, I don't see any of those two being traded

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    Chad Ford also was 100% sure Darko would be better than LeBron.
    That's him evaluating talent ( which is all opinion).

    This is a different cir stance.

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    I agree. I do not think that there is an impact player in this draft that can help the Spurs win a championship. But Harris is only slightly worse than Parker and his value is down because he played on the Nets. If the Spurs drafted Favors then I really think he would help in terms of being that athletic big man the Spurs have been looking for.
    +1 You have him playing with Duncan and Splitter and our defense gets soooo much better.

    I am ok with either of these two options:

    1. Trade Tony to New Jersey for Harris and draft either Cousins or Favors. "No way in we trade Tony for 10th pick"

    2. Swap first round and second round picks to the Pacers for George Hill. We draft SF Paul George with the 10th pick and a center Art Parkakhouski in the second round.

    I do think that money is going to play a part in that the new CBA agrement will lower the cap probably by 5 to 10 mill.
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    If we trade hill or blair i will slap somebody for being stupid, and this aint no bandwagon ive been a spurs fan all my life. Parker has been great for us but its over no matter what he wont be with us next year, so why not trade him we need to look at the future. BUMP this post 5 years from now george hill will be one of the best spurs point guard ever.

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    If you're going to trade Parker, thus blowing up the team, you might as well trade Duncan and Ginobili also.

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    Chad Ford has never broken Spurs news.

    1) The trade with the Pacers makes no sense on any level

    2) I see Hill gone before TP

    3) I would be absolutely shocked if one of the two mentioned are traded, and I would be stunned if it was for the mentioned package from Indy.

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    If we do trade one I hope its Parker, we can get more for him and he is almost in his 30's

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    doesn't make any sense. if the Spurs do trade Tony or George, then they'll be trading also for a point guard given that the team will be a point guard short.

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    Also, think logically. Spurs won't trade both. If Ford is saying either will be traded, then that is two very, very different packages that would have to be in place due to the huge money difference between the two.

    That is a pretty big swing from Ford.

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    Does anyone have or know the exact language used from Ford?

    He, like many in the biz, don't usually put their neck out on the line and suggest, with certainty, these kind of scenarios when it involves the Spurs . . .
    My thoughts exactly. If Ford said exactly what the le of this thread says, then he must be certain or at least as close to certain as someone in his position can get.

    There's been too much smoke in terms of the Spurs desperately trying to move up to not think that there might be some fire at this point.

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    2) I see Hill gone before TP
    ?... how the are we going to pay parker? he will be gone next year no matter what....

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    ?... how the are we going to pay parker? he will be gone next year no matter what....
    Very easily. The same way they paid Ginobili. RJ will be off the books. I don't see the Spurs paying an older, more injured Ginobili without plans of paying TP.

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    i thought of another reason why it's unlikely for parker to go to the pacers. the pacers will obviously know parker's contract is expiring and that parker has no intention to stay in indiana. unless they plan on paying him quite a lot of in the near max range, then they will stay away from him.

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    [QUOTE=baseline bum;4437243]If you're going to trade Parker, thus blowing up the team, you might as well trade Duncan and Ginobili also.[/QUOTE
    I agree trading tp makes no sence since you extended manu

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