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Just listened to Ford on ESPN radio and he says that there's a "pretty good chance" that the Spurs trade Parker or Hill by Thursday. He didn't say "will be".
I doubt it will happen but I think it should happen.
Parker and Hill creates a logjam. They're both scorers put in PG bodies. This doesn't help balance the needs of our team.
Reasons for not trading Parker: he's going to be rested and playing to regain his stature and get another contract. If the FO thinks they have one more possible year to get a ring, then it makes sense to keep Parker. Also, I don't know who would really trade for Parker unless they think he will stick around, but there's NO guarantees of that.
Reasons for trading Hill: his stock is at it's highest right now. This is the perfect time to move him, just like how we should have moved Mason when we had the chance. Hill will never descend to the depths of Mason, but I don't think he's going to ever be much better than he is. Maybe on another team, but on the Spurs I think we're seeing just about 90% of who he is going to be. And if other teams are high on him, and we can package him to get a player the FO really wants, then I think we have to do it. He's one of our few tradeable assets. If a good deal comes along, then we pull the trigger. Besides he'll be better off on another team where he'll get more responsibility and minutes.
Just listened to Ford on ESPN radio and he says that there's a "pretty good chance" that the Spurs trade Parker or Hill by Thursday. He didn't say "will be".
Do you think any big we could get in the 2nd round would be better than Ian, who already has 2-3 years in the Spurs' system (assuming Pop will actually play him)? Especially if we're in a 'win now' mode, I think we should retain Ian.
Sometimes I think no matter what we tell ourselves we're already in a rebuilding mode. These young players we draft - who says Pop will really play them? Or if they even are ready to play?
"Rebuilding" doesn't sell tickets. That's why I don't see them trading Parker. Hill, I think, is a better possibility.
I didn't read the whole thread, could you tell me if there's a romour of who/what we may trade them for? I don't see a scenario were the Spurs get better by trading Parker unless we get a Chris Paul kind of guy.
Not to belabor the obvious, but you don't trade Tony Parker for a draft pick.
To give an idea about how stupid it is to give away Tony Parker for a #10 pick, these are the #1 picks of the last 10 years who I would take Parker over:
Kenyon Martin 2000
Kwame Brown 2001
Yao Ming 2002
Andrew Bogut 2005 (this one's kind of borderline IMO)
Andrea Barngnani 2006
Greg Oden 2007
Devin Harris and the #3 (Derrick Favors)? New Jersey probably wouldn't do it, but who knows. Maybe if we add DeJuan Blair (I'd hate to lose him, but if we're getting Favors back anyway I don't know how much PT we'd have for him).
Bull ! I wouldn't give up Blair. He's was a 2nd round steal and is on a cheap contract. IF the Nets/Spurs want to get that deal done, they can do so without any extra sweetners for the Nets.
Uh no. Parker + Blair for Favors + Harris is still a good deal.
Good... we got the best years outta Parker already anyways, it's all down hill from here for him. Spurs don't like paying luxury tax and trading Parker would be the only way to manage that. -Like it or not thats the reality of it now swallow it cuz it's very likely to happen you homers... Bring on Derrick Favors or Ed Davis or whoever the is coming. Just send Parker away cuz our team chemistry was alot better when he was on the bench anyways.
The above post is going to generate 10 pages of argument.
About right!
did you watch the spurs with tp
favors is out of basketball shape doing his workouts for teams now
means he has no work ethic at all
Just for clarification...Chad Ford's words exactly on Sports Sunday..."Talking to the teams around the league I think there is a definite feeling if they (Spurs) can get into the top ten they would consider that and yeah my guess is by the end of the draft one of those two (Parker or Hill) are off the team and the spurs have a pick in the top ten and they can start the rebuilding process"
We wouldn't have beaten the Mavs without TP.
Spurs need someone who spreads the floor.
With Bonner gone, Murphy makes sense. Pop has to have a spread 4 at any cost.
Parker for Murphy and Rush and hopefully the 10th pick.
give me an S...
Spurs will not start the rebuilding process until Tim and Manu no longer wear silver and black. That's why I don't think either is getting traded.
I don't know why people are knocking this Indiana trade. Murphy is alot better than most here realize (100X better than Bonner).
He's a very very talented big man who could easily accomplish what Bonner could not (space the floor while still providing good rebounding/defense).
Rush and the #10 would just be the icing on the cake .. IMO the pacers would have to be the crazy ones to do this trade.
If we are going to trade parker, I definatly want value.
I say grill Toronto for trade:
Parker + RJ for Bosh and take turk off there hands
Bosh gets a max contract on a good team where he can be the new leader and Duncan can gracefully glide into sunset slowly giving up leadership role Like Robinson did.
This is what I've been saying for almost 2 years on this forum now and getting excoriated and mocked by the homers. Holt is not going to pony up max money (90+ mil/5 yr contract) on a guy who did better coming off the bench for the latter stages of the season. TP as 6th man was defenitely a luxury to have no doubt but Holt is simply not going to pay that much.
Spurs have to have someone to spread the floor at Center. Horry did it then he passed the spread the floor medal to Bonner, now Boner is going to be gone so he can pass the medal to Murphy.
Spreading the floor gives Tim room, without room Tim can't score. He needs room.
Parker for Murphy and Rush and hopefully the 10th would be icing on the cake.
Plus Parker is a ball hog. Ball hogging doesn't win games.
Let's see, who has won three of the last four Finals MVPs?
Plus Parker is a ball hog. Ball hogging doesn't win games.
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